OMG First drive

[Eddieb]

Test drove a Cup today. Feck me! Fastest thing i've driven. Granted ive only had a 1.1 106 and a 1.4 clio but I was gob smacked by how fast itwas! Was so amazed by it i went and bought it! I wont disclose how much I paid for it cos i recon i paid over the odds for it. However i still got them down to just above 6% apr, got free wax thing (forgot what its called) also managed to swangle 500 quid off it.

 

[Chris1.4RT]

Excellent. So long as you're happy.

Tbh I test drove one and wasn't that impressed but I was 3up and used to driving a VTS.

Going for a 172/182 very soon.

 

[RobertCL]

Nice one

Similar thing happened to me. I was toying with the idea of chaning my Clio 1.2 for a 172 but wasn't sure I wanted to spend the money, so went for a test drive in one - wow! I just had to have one after that, and now I do Never looked back, worth every penny.

 

[Eddieb]

Im going to have to be so careful not to drive at a 100mph everywhere. I noticed it being very easy to do 10+mph over the limit without realising!

 

[aaronc]

you should have bought mine! http://www.solaristech.co.uk/clio172cup/cliocup172.htm

 

[Eddieb]

Dont think you would of part ex'd mine though. I didnt pay much more than what your wanting for yours.

Looks stunning though mate!
What you getting next?

 

[Richy123]

Sweet. I had a 172 cup and i think its the best of the bunch.

Get the r-sport chip made mine alot better, negated hitting the limited all the time.

 

[Hector]

i would get a cup too. theyre the only ones that stand out now, 172s just look too plain imo.

 

[Munday]

Cups are great
Did you get a 172 or 182 Cup?

When I test drove it I put my deposit down the same day because I fell in love with the speed

 

[Hector]

heres a question... 172 cups are quicker than 182 cups, and 182s are hardly slower than 182cups, so whats the point?? lol.. other than looks i mean. just seems strange to look on websites and see that the 172 cup is quicker to 60 than the 182 cup :S

 

[Eddieb]

I got a 172 Cup, looks lush imo. Getting all the stone chips and scrapes taken out of it next week so when i pick it up it'll look spot on!

 

[Munday]

heres a question... 172 cups are quicker than 182 cups, and 182s are hardly slower than 182cups, so whats the point?? lol.. other than looks i mean. just seems strange to look on websites and see that the 172 cup is quicker to 60 than the 182 cup :S

I got a good deal on mine and I only had to wait a month from the date it being ordered instead of the 2 months at the time.
I don't need things like Xenons and Climate control so for me it seemed ideal and I saved a bit of money as well

 

[jonnyboy]

lol I remember driving my old 172 for the first time having had nothing more than a 1.4 before. I remember thinking how it shouldnt be legal for something to be so fast hehe Now I'm on a quest for more power from my 225 hehe its a drug once you get started on it m8 but its all good fun, just dont crash!

 

[Munson]

heres a question... 172 cups are quicker than 182 cups, and 182s are hardly slower than 182cups, so whats the point?? lol.. other than looks i mean. just seems strange to look on websites and see that the 172 cup is quicker to 60 than the 182 cup :S

What websites would those be then mate? Everything I've ever read puts the 172Cup and the 182Cup level pegging all the way, with the 182 being so close behind as to make no difference

 

[jonnyboy]

PS you deffo got the best clio there I wish I'dve got a cup!

 

[BigD]

172 cup is quicker than the 182 cup because its lighter, they put the ABS back in the 182 and it has manual air con which makes it heavier and negates the extra 10bhp in the 182.

The extra 10bhp in the 182 doesn't make a lot of difference to the performance, I think the official figures are 139mph compared to the 138mph of the 172 and about a 10th of a second quicker 0-60 in the standard model.

So when you think that the 182 cup is only 20kg lighter than the standard 182 where as the 172 cup is 90kg lighter than the standard 172/182 then thats why its quicker.

I have driven faster cars than my cup, but the handling and chuckability made me buy it as soon as I finished the test drive!

 

[BigD]

What websites would those be then mate? Everything I've ever read puts the 172Cup and the 182Cup level pegging all the way, with the 182 being so close behind as to make no difference

If you look at the performance figures in Parkers guide and Glassy's etc it lists it as being slightly quicker 0-60, its only by something like two tenths of a second so its not like its a huge difference.

Depending on how you drive you I doubt you would tell the difference....

 

[Munson]

172 cup is quicker than the 182 cup because its lighter...

The extra 10bhp in the 182 doesn't make a lot of difference to the performance

172Cup =170/ton
182Cup =167/ton
182 = 163/ton
172 = 154/ton?

 

[Munson]

There's no doubt that the 172Cup probably feels slightly more nimble though. It's splitting hairs really, since the power outputs vary from car to car anyway. I'd love to drive a real Cup to see how it compares to my 182Cup, and I mean that sincerely :race:

 

[Chili Red]

lol I remember driving my old 172 for the first time having had nothing more than a 1.4 before. I remember thinking how it shouldnt be legal for something to be so fast hehe Now I'm on a quest for more power from my 225 hehe its a drug once you get started on it m8 but its all good fun, just dont crash!

I know what you mean! I went from a 1.3 to a 172 . I love my 182, but sometimes I wish I had a reaaaaaallllllly fast car :evil: .

Oh well, it's quick enough for me I guess.

 

[Hector]

^^I had parkers in mind Roy, it lists the 172cup as 6.7 to 60 and the 182cup as 6.9 to 60. Just seems silly to me (I mean that renault would produce a 182cup thats slower than the old 172cup). If you ask me, the full fat 182 should be luxurious and the 182cup should be more stripped like the 172cup was, minus ABS, or it should be at least noticably quicker than the 172 range were, even if engine mods were required. The 182 was just a way to bang out a few more 172s with a few tweaks really imo. I know you probably wont be able to tell the difference when driving, and the individual cars will vary. Dont get me wrong i think theyre awesome cars and the 172cup definitely looks best out of the lot! (although inferno182s are growing on me) hehe

 

[Munday]

I know what you mean! I went from a 1.3 to a 172 . I love my 182, but sometimes I wish I had a reaaaaaallllllly fast car :evil: .

Oh well, it's quick enough for me I guess.

I went from a 1.1i Saxo to a 182 Cup

 

[Hector]

by 'minus ABS'... i mean they should have included it in the 182cup (as they did), didnt make it clear above.

 

[Chili Red]

I went from a 1.1i Saxo to a 182 Cup

Bloody hell! Bet you'd never go back hehe

 

[BigD]

172Cup =170/ton
182Cup =167/ton
182 = 163/ton
172 = 154/ton?

Like I said in Performance terms that equals 1 mph on the top speed and a tenth of a second difference 0-60 on the full fat versions.

So to me thats not really making a great deal of difference to performance.

 

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^^I had parkers in mind Roy, it lists the 172cup as 6.7 to 60 and the 182cup as 6.9 to 60. Just seems silly to me (I mean that renault would produce a 182cup thats slower than the old 172cup). If you ask me, the full fat 182 should be luxurious and the 182cup should be more stripped like the 172cup was, minus ABS, or it should be at least noticably quicker than the 172 range were, even if engine mods were required. The 182 was just a way to bang out a few more 172s with a few tweaks really imo. I know you probably wont be able to tell the difference when driving, and the individual cars will vary. Dont get me wrong i think theyre awesome cars and the 172cup definitely looks best out of the lot! (although inferno182s are growing on me) hehe

Definitley best 182 colour!!!

Noy that im biased or anything

 

[Munson]

Like I said in Performance terms that equals 1 mph on the top speed and a tenth of a second difference 0-60 on the full fat versions.

So to me thats not really making a great deal of difference to performance.

Yep, so the 172Cup isnt really any "quicker" than the 182Cup because its lighter is it? Probably more nimble though granted. They're all great cars and I'm sure we're all happy with what we chose :approve:

 

[ukaskew]

I had a similar experience, owned a 1.2 Dynamique (most powerful car I ever owned at that point!) and decided to hell with it I want a 172. Test drove a 172 Cup and it blew my mind, add to that the fact it was 18 months old, £8395 and had just 8k on it I just bought it there and then, craziest and best decision I ever made!

I've gone from being an everyday driver with not a great deal of interest in motorsport, to someone who next weekend is doing an airfield day and is saving for those all important (!) items such as bucket seats, induction kit and god knows what else, it really does draw you in!

One word of warning, be careful when you first drive in the wet, it can take a little getting used to as its a bit skittish compared to the comparitive luxury of the Dynamique. I'm certainly looking forward to this frozen winter I keep hearing about!

 

[CUPPER]

^^^ agree about the wet.....I've had a few incidents which i would rather forget. Be careful.

 

[BigD]

Yep, so the 172Cup isnt really any "quicker" than the 182Cup because its lighter is it? Probably more nimble though granted. They're all great cars and I'm sure we're all happy with what we chose :approve:

As I said in my post it is SLIGHTLY quicker to 60 by a whole two tenths of a second, and as I also said if you were driving one you probably wouldn't notice the difference

I was merely explaining to the bloke who posted in the first place that the two tenths of a second difference was because although the 182 cup had more horses the 172 cup was lighter.

Personaly imho going round a track there as near as equal as your going to get (unless you had two 172's or two 182's racing) and it would come down to who was the better driver.

I am a fan of both cars, just the 172 Cup was that little bit more basic and apealed to the cave man in me lol:approve:

 

[Thomss]

1.2RN to the 182 for me still loving it

 

[john.med]

I thought the full fat MkII (my model) had 167 bhp per tonne, and the diet MkII had 168?!

 

[jeccross]

I'm going from a 1.25 Fiesta LX Auto to a 182 next week, does that win?

 

[SimonD]

I went from a 1.6 Clio to my 172 and it STILL managed to blow my mind so people coming from 1.1s etc must have a hell of a shock!

 

[sh33n]

You really wouldn't notice the difference between stock 172s / 182s / Cups there's just nothing init.

They're all good fun cars and the choice between Cup / non-cup comes down really to just what you want!

And the 182 Cup had to have ABS by law now!

 

[Phill1978]

just swapped my 172MKII for a 172cup, i owned the 172 for 21 months and i know what it was capable of, i got a fast one for sure, however i have just purchased a cup and although i nearly stacked it in the first week ive grown to respect it more and i can confidently say.. its interior is crapply built i mean REALLY BAD in the back but just the same as the MKII172 in the front so no biggie but the accelaration low down is monster i have (only did it once) carried a further 8-10mph around a large roundabout near my house (it was empty before i get flamed) so were talking 50mp cough..cough.

it feels and i suspect is 20% faster than the 172 but that is a combination of 90kilos lighter 6bhp equivelent unsprung weight gain from turinis + no traction control to slow you down upto 30mph or tail off your throttle at any point.. basically just pure power with no electronics.. quite scary at times and il be taking it easy in the wet.

what i would say is above 90 it pulls to 110 for example quite a bit faster also is this light weight or the large cup spoiler + splitter + widertrack ?? its very stable at speed.

rear seats weigh 15kg`s so removing those brings kerb weight to 1005kg`s and seen as the front seats are crappy you could even get buckets and save a further 15kg`s 990kg`s !!!! + rsport, viper, decat then you will have some serious power to weight.

so miss the luxuries sometimes though