Oulton Park Trackday Videos (non-Clio, Westfield)

[AdamR]

Hello people,

Went to Oulton yesterday and had a cracking day! Done a lot of suspension / handling work on the car over winter and it's really paid off. Felt like a dog before but now it's a pleasure to pedal

Couple of vids...

Single lap (works out about 1:55.5 from Dentons to Dentons, was held up by the Civic at Old Hall):




Few laps with the instructor, making our way through traffic:

[video=youtube_share;wz5uBFX8Flk]http://youtu.be/wz5uBFX8Flk[/video]


Cheers,
Adam

 

[Nick172Cup]

Awesome bit of pedalling there! Actually look a lot more comfortable without the instructor, his hand gestures would annoy me after a while! lol

 

[Jamie86]

Rick Astley is an instructor? Awesome.. never gonna giv...

Look forward to a passenger seat at some point Adam!

 

[pbufton]

Was watching this by the pits when you were doing a few laps. Could hear it coming a long time before i saw it! Sounds like a proper monster

 

[jamie rigby]

awesome, very quick!

 

[AdamR]

Awesome bit of pedalling there! Actually look a lot more comfortable without the instructor, his hand gestures would annoy me after a while! lol

Thanks man. Haha, yeah it was a bit off-putting at points. Useful though, as always

Rick Astley is an instructor? Awesome.. never gonna giv...

Look forward to a passenger seat at some point Adam!

Haha, you know I was thinking the same! Yeah man, sure, I'll probably post on the Nutz list when I get the next one booked.

Was watching this by the pits when you were doing a few laps. Could hear it coming a long time before i saw it! Sounds like a proper monster

It is a bit loud yeah... Made 100 at noise testing but they thought it was a 'normal' C20XE so only asked me to hold it at 5k. Was half expecting to get pulled on drive by but the induction is kept down by the airbox.

awesome, very quick!

Cheers dude!

 

[keo]

I enjoyed that, love Oulton but i havent been for a while. What is the spec?? 7 style cars look so much fun!

 

[imprezaworks]

Must have watched the top video four or five times now, epic!. Cant have been many if any quicker cars there?

 

[bendee]

another reason why i hate you lol. looks like a proper machine. whats the spec i dont think youve ever actually told me.

swap for a rallye in bits?

 

[AdamR]

I enjoyed that, love Oulton but i havent been for a while. What is the spec?? 7 style cars look so much fun!

Thanks dude. You know what you need to do about that I'll pop a spec below...

Must have watched the top video four or five times now, epic!. Cant have been many if any quicker cars there?

Haha, well I'm glad you enjoyed it. I don't remember anything coming past but there was some quick stuff there, few other Westies on slicks, Ginettas...

another reason why i hate you lol. looks like a proper machine. whats the spec i dont think youve ever actually told me.

swap for a rallye in bits?

Love you too! Yeah I love it now, I was a bit 'iffy' when I first got it cos it hadn't been screwed together all that well and the handling was scary.

Spec-wise, this is pretty long, sorry...

1995 SEIW chassis
Westfield widetrack front suspension
Westfield aluminium front uprights
Westfield aluminium rear uprights
Westfield aluminium hubs
Playskool front and rear antiroll bars
Protech shocks front and rear, valved for the car and balanced in pairs
350lb/in front and 185lb/in rear springs
2.6 camber front, 2.1 rear (needs a bit more), 27mins toe in rear, parallel front

Raceleda R16 (same as Wilwood Dynalite) 4 pot front calipers with Hawk pads
Grooved front disks
Sierra rear calipers and solid discs

Playskool full lightweight cage

Westfield extra wide rear arches
6" front and 7" rear Compomotive CXRs (13")
R888's 185/60 front and 205/60 rear

JK Composite seats
Schroth 3" 6 point drivers harness
Schroth 3" 5 point passengers harness
Mono steering wheel with Racetech removable boss
Quick rack with solid mounts

Carbon mods nose
Carbon mods indicator pods
Carbon mods dash
Carbon mods aeroscreen
Carbon mods front wings
Carbon mods boot cover
Fluke carbon centre tunnel
Carbon scuttle top
ETB Digidash Lite 2 (integrated shift lights, oil temp, water temp, etc)
M&P Headlights

BGH heavy duty gearbox (2.83, 1.81, 1.26, 1.0, 0.87)
Sierra 3.92 LSD

Northampton Motorsport built 2.0 vauxhall XE mapped by track and road at 228 BHP @8300 RPM (bhp plot is still at 45 degrees at limiter so there is a lot more to come, but going to keep it 'safe'!)
Jenvey 48mm taper throttle bodies with Peco 480cc injectors
CNC big valve ported head with cooling mods
SBD 295 cams
Double valve springs
Titanium valve caps
Ultra light weight cam followers
Vernier pulleys
Omega/SBD H.T oversized pistons (rebored block at rebuild)
Steel rods
High pressure oil pump with remote filter and oil cooler
SBD alloy sump
Ultra light flywheel with ARP bolts
Twin plate paddle clutch
SBD alloy bellhousing
SBD alternator kit and flat belt pulleys
EMERALD K3 ECU with latest software upgrades
ECU engine loom with coil pack and leads
Injection fuel pump
ITG filter with SBD airbox
Simpson full exhaust system with re-packable silencer
Radtec aluminium radiator with override switch


And I think that's it... Tempted to chuck a dry sump on it to ensure longevity.

Yeah, go on then, I'll take the Rallye off your hands :approve: lol

 

[BoatNonce]

Nice Westie.

 

[bendee]

christ thats a cracking spec and certainly must shift. haha ill package the bits up for you and send them on over.

 

[AdamR]

Yeah she's not too slow

Are you still hobbling about with your foot in a cast? Reason I ask is that I'm possibly heading to Blyton on 17th March if you fancy coming?

 

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Adam do you know pete who was there with the Civic Racecar ?


and your springs are way too soft at the back , especially on a 95 chassis as they were bloody good around that age ...(till about 98)

 

[AdamR]

I don't 'know' him unfortunately, but know of him through the Westy forum if you see what I mean. The car looked awesome! Why do you ask?

Hmmm. The car feels good to me (although I guess I am inexperienced compared with someone like yourself!) and the calculations I carried out (and specialists I spoke to) reckon they are pretty close to optimal. Those springs give a wheel rate of 1.7hz at the rear with 1.88hz up front. What would your suggestion be? I have some 225s for the rear as well, which I have tried, but only at a very slippery and damp Silverstone.

 

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Do you have antiroll bars ? .... the sprint boys run soft setups as they want to work tyres from the off ....

I built and setup the car he then bought his dads car also runs the same setup but we ran 450 front 280 rear .... both myself and dave higgs (who was racecar dr ) tested and found that worked really well .... jeff cooper and the north eastern boys now swear by it .... it will sound a step too far but works brilliantly ....

Harvsport.com has the full spec on it ... your rear rideheight looks low in your avatar too

 

[AdamR]

Yeah got bars front and rear, set to pretty much full soft, not sure of exact rates but they come well recommended. They are about 3/4" diameter and 1/8" wall both ends.

Ah really? Thought the sprint cars were running really hard setups to get heat into the tyres more quickly, their spring rates are higher than mine in general.

Thanks for the spring rate suggestions, interesting! Is that with or without arbs?

The avatar pic is old, but ride heights (car fully loaded) are fairly high, 110 front and 130 rear measured to the normal chassis rails.

I'll have a look at your site, cheers!

 

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Yeah got bars front and rear, set to pretty much full soft, not sure of exact rates but they come well recommended. They are about 3/4" diameter and 1/8" wall both ends.

Ah really? Thought the sprint cars were running really hard setups to get heat into the tyres more quickly, their spring rates are higher than mine in general.

Thanks for the spring rate suggestions, interesting! Is that with or without arbs?

The avatar pic is old, but ride heights (car fully loaded) are fairly high, 110 front and 130 rear measured to the normal chassis rails.

I'll have a look at your site, cheers!

110/130 is low i would go an inch higher front and rear ......playskool bars are fine your spec looks good .....mine and racecar dr's cars are the 2 in nearly all the fluke pictures and on the Caged website as i developed the cage with Phil at caged

 

[AdamR]

An inch? Wow, I didn't expect that. Will try and find myself some longer springs to try then.

Your car(s) must be super stiff with those springs, that ride height and Westfield ARBs? I don't think I'm good enough to cope with that, haha.

I remember the car actually, so pimp with all the carbon bits and the paint job.

 

[...]

An inch? Wow, I didn't expect that. Will try and find myself some longer springs to try then.

Your car(s) must be super stiff with those springs, that ride height and Westfield ARBs? I don't think I'm good enough to cope with that, haha.

I remember the car actually, so pimp with all the carbon bits and the paint job.

Its not as stiff as you might think .... I ran 8" rears 6 fronts (rims) as well but it was easier to drive stiffer ..... and yes it did look smart painted .... the carbon was fitted and it was sprayed by what used to be the tyrell f1 paintshop and bits of that car have been worked on at Mclaren ..... fortunatley local mates

I was recently asked to price up building another .... I got to 40k very quickly ...there is what would now cost 8k's worth of carbon in it ... the seats alone now are 2k

 

[bendee]

Yeah she's not too slow

Are you still hobbling about with your foot in a cast? Reason I ask is that I'm possibly heading to Blyton on 17th March if you fancy coming?

ill be in cast until the 20th i blame my riding making my ankle and the rest of my body so fragile.

 

[AdamR]

Its not as stiff as you might think .... I ran 8" rears 6 fronts (rims) as well but it was easier to drive stiffer ..... and yes it did look smart painted .... the carbon was fitted and it was sprayed by what used to be the tyrell f1 paintshop and bits of that car have been worked on at Mclaren ..... fortunatley local mates

I was recently asked to price up building another .... I got to 40k very quickly ...there is what would now cost 8k's worth of carbon in it ... the seats alone now are 2k

Cool - well I'll try and get hold of some new springs and see what happens, thanks!

That's a lot of carbon!!

ill be in cast until the 20th i blame my riding making my ankle and the rest of my body so fragile.

Bummer, never mind. Next time!

 

[...]

Cool - well I'll try and get hold of some new springs and see what happens, thanks!

That's a lot of carbon!!!

and you can't buy carbon rear arches any more for love nor money ,


apart from the main tub and bonnet everything was carbon , the tub and bonet were made from westfields race bodywork which is ultra thin and then had strengthening pieces bonded in carbon.

there wasn't a single ali sheet in the car we did everything in carbon .

420bhp/ton

i could have done more carbon if i had changed the headlamp shells and they now make rear lights in carbon .....

the whole car was down to a smidge over 500kgs with a cage on .

 

[AdamR]

You could make them though

I guess there is a point where it doesn't save any weight, but it's still cool. 500kg with a full cage is bloody good.

Mate of mine has an S2000-powered Westy with all carbon goodies including the shift paddles and bellhousing, seriously nice bit of kit! Think that's about 470kg (normal roll over bar with a petty strut) so it goes pretty well.

 

[...]

You could make them though

I guess there is a point where it doesn't save any weight, but it's still cool. 500kg with a full cage is bloody good.

Mate of mine has an S2000-powered Westy with all carbon goodies including the shift paddles and bellhousing, seriously nice bit of kit! Think that's about 470kg (normal roll over bar with a petty strut) so it goes pretty well.

biggest issue with the S2000 lump is the gearbox ratios arn't great ...... bellhousing and type 9 or sequential and your away .


there is a mould for the rear arches but westfield got lawyers involved to stop them being made and succeeded as the rear arches are not generic like front wings for example , twas the only thing they stopped production of from a 3rd party .


making those rear arches yourself is a b**ch and don't forget they are not a mirror of each other either as a westfield is different on the left side to the right .

 

[BoatNonce]

I dread to think what the last owner of our Westie spent on it. Still on a manual box though.

 

[AdamR]

Yeah he isn't using the standard gearbox. Great engine for this sort of car though.

Weird about the rear arches, but makes sense. Not hard to make your own tooling if you really really wanted some I guess.

There does seem to be a lot of people willing to put a lot of money into cars! Nowt wrong with a manual box though, especially when you are driving for fun rather than competition.

 

[...]

I dread to think what the last owner of our Westie spent on it. Still on a manual box though.

I know lots who spend north of 30k

 

[BoatNonce]

Ours is probably at £40-50k now, not including the tow car/truck, trailer, tools and spares lol.

 

[...]

Ours is probably at £40-50k now, not including the tow car/truck, trailer, tools and spares lol.

i counted my reciepts after 10 years ........


it was not a small number

then again its been to most of the old and new GP circuits in europe and every track in the uk , so i am not surprised .... it did a huge amount of track work and never missed a beat .

 

[keo]

Thanks for the spec list Adam!

 

[AdamR]

Ours is probably at £40-50k now, not including the tow car/truck, trailer, tools and spares lol.

Pretty silly that! But, it must have brought you a lot of good times

Thanks for the spec list Adam!

No worries - guessing you have a kit car as well...?

 

[MancmanRS200]

Awesome think i want one. Just sheer enjoyment well done good videos

 

[BoatNonce]

Pretty silly that! But, it must have brought you a lot of good times

Sadly I fix rather than drive, but compared to the funness of the Cobra replica and the downright brutal speed of the single seater it's a nice balance.

 

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Sadly I fix rather than drive, but compared to the funness of the Cobra replica and the downright brutal speed of the single seater it's a nice balance.

Oooh pauls car .... before that owned by john arnolds brother steve ..... that was one of the cars in the original batch of cages we had made

 

[BoatNonce]

Well it's definitely not Paul's now lol.

Nice to know some more info on the cage though.

 

[...]

Its a caged cage with full msa cert ... circa 2006 ... should have a silver homologation sticker on somewhere

 

[AdamR]

Sadly I fix rather than drive, but compared to the funness of the Cobra replica and the downright brutal speed of the single seater it's a nice balance.

Ah, that's a shame (sort of - I get a lot of pleasure from spannering too so know how it can still be enjoyable)!

Harv, got any vids of your Westfield(s)?

 

[Tony Hunter]

I'll just sneek this one in. Looks slow compared to yours.

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[Nick172Cup]

Sadly I fix rather than drive, but compared to the funness of the Cobra replica and the downright brutal speed of the single seater it's a nice balance.

Nice ex BT van!