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PC vs Consoles Official Thread
- Thread starter Scutch
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Indeed, there are too many variables to compare the 2 fairly imo. Mainly the fact that something like a controller vs a mouse & keyboard will always cause a big divide as the 2 are so different.
No matter how much better a PC might be the simple fact that you have to use a mouse & keyboard will bring it down... in my eyes and the console heeds, we're a simple folk.
I'm still rocking an old QX9650 Extreme at 3.8Ghz on an old 780i SLI platform. Like I say, it's pretty old now but still chomps through every game no problem. I am rolling 4GB of DDR2 at a mere 840Mhz (1:1). Graphics card is a GTX295.
The old girl still soldiers on
You don't have to use K&M though. Most PC shooters can use a pad. In fact they nearly all work out of the box with the x360 pad.
EDIT: AFAIK, if I'm wrong then I stand corrected.
That's possibly the most sensible sentance I've ever seen you post on here....
How's that workin out for ya?
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FPS shooters written for consoles are coded to be slow and to include slight auto aiming. For me, speed and accuracy are the reason I want to play a FPS. PC's for FPS & proper driving sims (rFactor), consoles for everything else.
To the console fanbois, how many individual controls can you operate at once with a controller? M&K, I'm looking at at least 8 plus full 360 degree horizontal movement and 180 degree verticle movement in a split second. If you were really in that enviroment, how quick would you like your reactions to be?
To the console fanbois, how many individual controls can you operate at once with a controller? M&K, I'm looking at at least 8 plus full 360 degree horizontal movement and 180 degree verticle movement in a split second. If you were really in that enviroment, how quick would you like your reactions to be?
This for me is another vital factor in the immersion. When I want to look up, I want to look up, not push a stick and wait for my retarded eyes and neck to catch up. Granted, with a mouse it can sometimes be too fast, but if you tailor the sensitivity to your tastes, it's entirely convincing, and just feels natural. Like you're there...not really controlling anything at all. The whole point of a first person experience.
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Just add fcuking mouse and keyboard support to the 360, can't be that hard right? Only then everyone with a controller would get their rear peaches handed to them on a plate
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Just add fcuking mouse and keyboard support to the 360, can't be that hard right? Only then everyone with a controller would get their rear peaches handed to them on a plate
I don't want to sit 3 feet away from the screen though, so they'd have to be wireless. I also don't want a desk near my sofa in my living room, therefore I'd like the mouse and keyboard to be built into my leg. Somehow.
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Exactly that^ The controller shouldn't get in the way in any game IMHO. An analogy would be playing rock band/guitar hero with a normal controller - possible, but stupid.
There is some mental control system for the PS3. Basically it's a mouse for looking, but with an analogue stick for moving. I was looking at getting one for Killzone 2 before I decided it was a s**t game and not worthy. Perhaps something similar is available for the xbox?
So, for me.
K&M = natural, not feeling like there is a control interface at all. I point the gun where I look, and shoot where I point. I move quickly & instinctively.
Sticks = wading around on treacle. I have a robotic neck with underpowered motors. I wave my thumbs around in order to hover about and sway around. Aiming becomes a conscious exercise in thumb control.
K&M = natural, not feeling like there is a control interface at all. I point the gun where I look, and shoot where I point. I move quickly & instinctively.
Sticks = wading around on treacle. I have a robotic neck with underpowered motors. I wave my thumbs around in order to hover about and sway around. Aiming becomes a conscious exercise in thumb control.
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swings and round a bouts : D.
Forza 3 with mouse and keyboard anyone? lol
Forza 3 with mouse and keyboard anyone? lol
Exactly the same. I HAVE to invert the Y axis when playing with sticks and keep it normal with a mouse. I believe I must of picked this up with Golden Eye on the N64 as "C-down" was "look up" as default.
I find the console better for all gaming apart from things like champ man and simcity etc I think what confuses the pc gamers is that it takes 2 d pads to look around and so there not used to it so feels stupid to them but in return I think ya get a more realistic game. As for speed you can turn sensitivity up on consoles so you can turn around and shoot really quick. I quite like the rumble in the pad during games aswell.
What is this continued bunkum about 'more skill'. PMSL talk about clutching at straws. A good game doesn't need controls getting in the way of the experience. Anyone who sits there hi-fiving themselves at how awesome they are at controlling their thumbs, is sadly serially missing out on the seamless immersion that shooters can offer. The controls are not meant to require skill. You're supposed to feel like you're trying to kill or be killed, not constantly battling to perfect your thumb motions. I want to feel like a very skilled soldier with lightning reactions and a natural ability to wield a weapon with deadly accuracy, not a gamer that's good with two sticks. That is the fundamental difference for me.
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my point. you missed it.
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Lets try and break it down....
FPS - K&M - PC Wins
Racing Sim - Wheel - Draw
3rd Person/Platformer - Pad - Console wins (although arguably a draw)
RPG - Pad - Console wins
RTS - K&M - PC Wins
Graphics (value for money) - Console
Graphics (Money no object) - PC
etc etc
Lets try and break it down....
FPS - K&M - PC Wins
Racing Sim - Wheel - Draw
3rd Person/Platformer - Pad - Console wins (although arguably a draw
)RPG - Pad - Console wins
RTS - K&M - PC Wins
Graphics (value for money) - Console
Graphics (Money no object) - PC
etc etc
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What satisfaction do pc gamers get from a kill though? From a console point of view it takes a certain skill to be very accurate so it's my skill vs others not who has the fastest wrist. How doesnt every1 just snipe as all ya doing is clicking a mouse on a screen with a 50cal you could take a whole team out in a second. Lol unless I'm not understanding it right.
Good point. One skilled soldier has often destroyed an entire army.
The skill is NOT in combating the controls. If it is, then it's a poorly designed game.
I've always been brought up on keyboards for playing games (spectrums, Amstrads, Amigas, PC) so K&M is second nature to me. I've always been a PC Gamer and spent god knows how much money over the years on keeping my PC updated, but that was part of the enjoyment as well, unwrapping a brand new graphics card and installing it.
Granted I have both consoles - but I tend to use them for casual play and only certain types of games.
You defo could never ever play a MMORPG on a pad!
Granted I have both consoles - but I tend to use them for casual play and only certain types of games.
You defo could never ever play a MMORPG on a pad!
I found DC online worked very well on a pad!
Exactly. Hence why PC > Console for FPS's. Do you now agree?
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Lets try and break it down....
FPS - K&M - PC Wins
Racing Sim - Wheel - Draw
3rd Person/Platformer - Pad - Console wins (although arguably a draw
RPG - Pad - Console wins
RTS - K&M - PC Wins
Graphics (value for money) - Console
Graphics (Money no object) - PC
etc etc
Agreed!
