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[PC/Xbox360/PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Official Thread



  Octy VRS
I still think you get points for picking up any kit, just not against that class.

I've picked up assault kits but still have no points against the class as I've never played it, but did still scored points in the game.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
I still think you get points for picking up any kit, just not against that class.

I've picked up assault kits but still have no points against the class as I've never played it, but did still scored points in the game.

Ah, I see. But do you know if you do continue to make points against the class if you pickup the same class kit as yourself?

On a seperate note - I managed to get my first anti-helo pilot kill last night (not news for many people, I know!) on Port Valdez Rush. Playing as the Russians, we pushed the Yanks back to the very last base when three opposing players got in the Blackhawk and flew up vertically. Stupidly for them, their pilot just hovered - presumably to give the minigun owners a steady platform to fire from. My first shot from the GOL went a little low, so I aimed a little higher and at their pilot. Nailed him and that helo fell like a brick - too quick for the other two to bail out. Triple kill. :cool:

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  Mito Sportiva 135
Well you only need to press a once when falling...if you double tap it will open and close! If doing it from a chopper pull it last minute to minimse chances of people seeing or shooting you in freefall.
 
  UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
I only got the hang of parachutes a few weeks back. Playing on Hardcore makes you rely on them more, as if and when you get shot or take a hard landing, you're stuck in that state (health wise) until a medic pack is issued. I usually press the A button (or whatever the chute button is) a few times and hold it down. I know it's worked if I hear the chute open. If not, I have a heavy landing and get the blood spatter on the screen, which can cripple your vision.

On BC2 (Scutch will probably know this) - am I right in saying.....


  • Pick a class - e.g engineer and kill with it = points gained.
  • Still as engineer - pickup dead recon's kit and kill with it = no points gained.
  • Still as engineer - pickup dead engineer's kit and kill with it = points gained.
?

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As mentioned, picking up a fallen soldiers kit will still gain you points, but not for that specific class as far as unlocks are concerned. For example, I've picked up the Medic kit many times, shot folk and given out first aid boxes and ressurected dead team mates. I get the points at the end of the round, but if I select Medic from the off, I'm still on 0 points (or whatever you're on prior to changing class during a battle). As for changing to a kit of the same class, I'm unsure. Good question. I'm presuming it will still add up on your current class overall. Not 100% though.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
I only got the hang of parachutes a few weeks back. Playing on Hardcore makes you rely on them more, as if and when you get shot or take a hard landing, you're stuck in that state (health wise) until a medic pack is issued. I usually press the A button (or whatever the chute button is) a few times and hold it down. I know it's worked if I hear the chute open. If not, I have a heavy landing and get the blood spatter on the screen, which can cripple your vision.



As mentioned, picking up a fallen soldiers kit will still gain you points, but not for that specific class as far as unlocks are concerned. For example, I've picked up the Medic kit many times, shot folk and given out first aid boxes and ressurected dead team mates. I get the points at the end of the round, but if I select Medic from the off, I'm still on 0 points (or whatever you're on prior to changing class during a battle). As for changing to a kit of the same class, I'm unsure. Good question. I'm presuming it will still add up on your current class overall. Not 100% though.

....going off to ask some clanners - I'll let you know what they say. :)

D.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Scutch just man up and use the medic!!!!!!!

I'm pretty much convinced that (on the PC version anyway) they have toned down the M60 a bit. Used it at the weekend and couldn't hit for s**t - seriously bad and even in bursts. Tried it again last night and it was the same. Switched after a few goes to the Thompson again and it was back to kill fest.

Not been killed by an M60 for quite a while either. I'm sure they must have tweaked the performance of that recently.

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  Fiesta ST-2
What are the best guns for each class? I can't stop using the 94-91 with the engineer I just rape with it 21% accuracy and about 250kills also what's the best handgun? I can't fault the MP-443 win most 1v1s with it! 30% accuracy about 130 kills. I can't seem to find any other guns I like, I've barely touched assault class because I hate the first gun.
 
  Mito Sportiva 135
I seriously don't rate shotguns on this game, the levels are so big medium/long range weapons are in general way better I think.

For me, best guns are:

Assault - M16
Medic - M60
Recon - Gol
Engineer - either Uzi or use one of the generic rifles like WW2 garand
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Just come off a server before I rage quit. f**king tracer darts EVERYWHERE.

DICE - please, please, please, please, please, please,PLEASE remove this f**king joke from the game. Please. Pretty please.

Anyways. v1.51beta for BF2142 has come out with the inclusion of the Karkand map = awesome. b****cks to it - back to that for a while, I think. Griff, Geddes, fancy going back to 2142? ;)

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  SLK 350
Sup with tracers?

I just tonight discovered I farking love the VSS on Recon, with Magnum perk it's fantastic. Only sniper that you can basically run n gun with, fast reload, great ROF and decent power. <3

Love the game, though the Mrs is fast becoming a widow. Up to rank 18 now, vehicle, recon and medic all unlocked. Engineer half done, and Assault untouched.
 
  Mk2 ph1 clio
Love this now, fk MW2 and its laggy connection problems!

Had an awesome round with the m60 + red dot. Finished with 9k points and finaly reached level 22 for the G3 .. which by the way is epic!!!
 
  Mk1 MX-5 next summer
Sup with tracers?

I just tonight discovered I farking love the VSS on Recon, with Magnum perk it's fantastic. Only sniper that you can basically run n gun with, fast reload, great ROF and decent power. <3

Love the game, though the Mrs is fast becoming a widow. Up to rank 18 now, vehicle, recon and medic all unlocked. Engineer half done, and Assault untouched.


Platform?
 
  Audi RS4 (B5)
Had a 'play' with the shotgun last night, the MC870? How easy is that to hit at long range? Stupid. Crap reload time, but that's actually realistic.

Good sesh last night. AM so bored with MW2. BC2 seems to be more to my style with Team Play (i.e. working properly in squads or pairs at least), rather than everyone running around as individuals...

Thanks re the Parachute button. Will try it tonight.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Sup with tracers?

I just tonight discovered I farking love the VSS on Recon, with Magnum perk it's fantastic. Only sniper that you can basically run n gun with, fast reload, great ROF and decent power. <3

Love the game, though the Mrs is fast becoming a widow. Up to rank 18 now, vehicle, recon and medic all unlocked. Engineer half done, and Assault untouched.

They are utterly stupid.

Zap someone with an arrow-straight marker pen that doesn't just last for 20secs or so - but much longer. Then hide behind some impervious scenery and launch AT rockets with impunity. Even the sinper has to have at least a brief line-of-sight to launch a mortar strike. But these people can hide and fire away until their hearts' content. One or two people using them is bad enough, but when you have several clan members or those that clearly stick together using tracers, it rapidly descends into a joke. The other night was like the 4th of July fireworks whenever our team launched our own helicopter - tracer darts being fired seemingly halfway across the map to mark it.

That said, I completely pissed off an opposing player when using the Bradley on Valdez. The spanner had marked me from somewhere in Africa, but refused to move from his hiding point. After six AT launches at me (another issue when Mr. Ammo is alongside them) and all but one hitting (being behind a building really does help) - I'd had enough and just sent volley after volley in his direction. It must have been him that I killed as the 7th missile heading my way just plummeted into the ground after receiving the name an points for killing someone.

If my Bradley wasn't so valuable to the rest of the team, I would have driven over the cnut as well. ;)

I simply refuse to use it in game. It takes no skill to use and can be lethal if the opposing team has got their heads screwed on. Increasingly, I've seen tracer darts used against snipers too. WTF are they supposed to do once they are flashing like fecking Rudolph in amongst the trees???? It also says something when a sniper has to calculate and aim accordingly for bullet drop, yet the laser-straight tracer dart firer doesn't have to. Yep, well played there DICE. :S

D.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Cool. Cheers.

Interesting - still doesn't appear to be 100% proven either way!

As far as I know points gained by picked up kits go to the corresponding kit - of course BC2s flaky netcode probably gets it wrong at least part of the time. Remember it's the gun etc you're carrying that determines where the points go and not your uniform.

Just tried it out and the points were accruing to the correct kits for me.



Thats odd - I remember bajayzee or one of the other DICE guys saying on their forum that all points go to the original kit only. Maybe it was changed in a recent server update.


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  S3, Polo
I simply refuse to use it in game. It takes no skill to use and can be lethal if the opposing team has got their heads screwed on. Increasingly, I've seen tracer darts used against snipers too. WTF are they supposed to do once they are flashing like fecking Rudolph in amongst the trees???? It also says something when a sniper has to calculate and aim accordingly for bullet drop, yet the laser-straight tracer dart firer doesn't have to. Yep, well played there DICE. :S
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You're joking, right? Hitting a well piloted helicopter with a tracer is f*cking HARD IME!! The skill comes in anticipating where it will hit. It may fly arrow-straight, but it's slow and takes judgement to use properly.

Hitting a sniper with a tracer is just a humiliation thing, like covering them with C4 ;)

Also, taking down a tank is a 2x RPG affair, exposing your position (smoke trail) and making the job that much harder.

I sincerely have no problem with them.

FWIW Darren, try using the vehicle smoke specialisation, it removes darts. :D
 
  Mk2 ph1 clio
The thing is... Your complaining about tracer darts yet no mention of the knobs in the heli who have two engineers in aswell as gunners who constantly repair the damn thing if you use any other means of shooting it down.

I agree.. using them on tanks is pointless because it's harder to repair that and stay alive than it is to camp in the heli.

As for the sniper thing.. i use them on my own team... mainly dredz... he suits being a christmas tree! lol
 

terryc101

ClioSport Club Member
Had Another awesome game last night on laguna presa rush. defending again using scar-l and at mines or rpg depending what was needed.

Including awards my score was 34500 lol finally got 2 platinum stars M416 and scar L :D
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
You're joking, right? Hitting a well piloted helicopter with a tracer is f*cking HARD IME!! The skill comes in anticipating where it will hit. It may fly arrow-straight, but it's slow and takes judgement to use properly.

Hitting a sniper with a tracer is just a humiliation thing, like covering them with C4 ;)

Also, taking down a tank is a 2x RPG affair, exposing your position (smoke trail) and making the job that much harder.

I sincerely have no problem with them.

FWIW Darren, try using the vehicle smoke specialisation, it removes darts. :D

Smoke specialisation? It's awful - lol - it creates more of an issue for the tank driver than putting off the opposing AT firer. Even if that stops the tracer the first time, they just zap you with another.

I only ever use the RPG against tanks (I'm 90% of the time an engi) and don't even bother with the other AT devices. An RPG is a piece of piss to use - even taking into account the firing arc. But even that piece of piss takes some skill and ability to use (edit - just checked my stats - 84.62% accuracy from 1,066 shots with the RPG :cool:). For one I have to expose myself to return fire and secondly, I have to allow for shell drop and distance to target. If I'd zapped a tracer dart at Mr. T-90, some 200 yards away, with the right AT rocket I can completely hide myself from danger and fire away. Totally lame. Like I said previously, why not have a laser-guided sniper bullet that homes in on the opposing soldier's head? Fire a round into the air and zooms into their cranium automatically, without fail....

The thing is... Your complaining about tracer darts yet no mention of the knobs in the heli who have two engineers in aswell as gunners who constantly repair the damn thing if you use any other means of shooting it down.

I agree.. using them on tanks is pointless because it's harder to repair that and stay alive than it is to camp in the heli.

As for the sniper thing.. i use them on my own team... mainly dredz... he suits being a christmas tree! lol

Totally agree with the lack of AA abilities in this game. The static AA turrets are far too powerful - it's easy to bring down helos on 3-4 bursts - and less if they already damaged. Yet they are spread very thinly across the map. The alternative to that? Well, there isn't one - unless you include the crazy amount of normal rounds fired from a coax gun on the tanks or the APCs in order to damage and bring down a helo. I'll say it again, DICE should have learnt from Desert Combat where one of the kits you could use included a Stinger AA missile option. Useless against ground targets but very effective against air vehicles. FFS, they had that option in BF2142 as well with a pure AA weapons system - so why they didn't put it in this, I have no idea. That's a game design flaw, which unfortunately has only been countered by the use of the spak-gun.

And tracers aren't useless against tanks - they are very deadly indeed - especially when used by two or three people with some intelligence. That's against the main battle tanks too - lesser armoured vehicles are just cannon fodder against tracer dart equipped morons.

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  Integra Type-R DC2
Pussys use the tracer dart. I bring down helos with AT4s. No warning, no evasive flying.
 
  1.8 Civic EX
i've just started using the tracer darts properly, mainly to get the pin for 100 successful plants. it's easy to hit a tank with them but not the helo's. i've noticed it does actually drop a little and is s**t slow so getting the timing right can be a bit tricky. Also once it's planted you still need to point the launcher at the marked target for a few secs till it gets the lock (the red square goes a little darked and the distance pops up under the square) once it's got the lock you can fire quite happily for it to guide to the mark.
 
  UR R26R.5, VW Golf R
i've just started using the tracer darts properly, mainly to get the pin for 100 successful plants. it's easy to hit a tank with them but not the helo's. i've noticed it does actually drop a little and is s**t slow so getting the timing right can be a bit tricky. Also once it's planted you still need to point the launcher at the marked target for a few secs till it gets the lock (the red square goes a little darked and the distance pops up under the square) once it's got the lock you can fire quite happily for it to guide to the mark.

It's easier getting a dart on a helo if you infiltrate the enemy base and set up camp there, waiting.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Got an awesome kill against me last night. Parachuting in on Valdez, I got shotgun'd from a bloke at Point B. Point fecking B! I proper lol'd. I think I need to start using those....

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  Dirty E91
Got an awesome kill against me last night. Parachuting in on Valdez, I got shotgun'd from a bloke at Point B. Point fecking B! I proper lol'd. I think I need to start using those....

D.

I get some great kills with the Spas12 using magnum ammo and the 12 gauge addons, even at distance!
 
  1.8 Civic EX
It's easier getting a dart on a helo if you infiltrate the enemy base and set up camp there, waiting.

sneaky sneaky roflysst!

with the dumb f***s I've been playing with recently it's been pretty hard to even get out of our own base let alone make it all the way to to thiers!!
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Guys - just for comparison - could someone post a screenshot of their ping times whilst in a game? Quite intrigued to see if this has any bearing on some recent events. I know my internet speed at home is s**t, but I'd like to see just how s**t compared to others. ;)

Cheers,
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  Integra Type-R DC2
I get some great kills with the Spas12 using magnum ammo and the 12 gauge addons, even at distance!


To be fair, the 12 guage upgrade changes the shot fired from buckshot to a slug. Slugs are just big ass bullets, so the power and range is epic, thought obviously the accuracy being fired from a shotgun means it takes a fair bit of skill to hit anything at range.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
The randomness of BC2 - lol!

Just had three games - in each I was doing appalling, easily dying double the amount of times I made a kill.

The next and fourth round? Conquest on Atacama. Ended up finishing the round on 33/5 - of which two of those deaths were my own fault in going out and out Rambo.

WhyTF and HowTF this happens, I've no idea. Short of the entire opposition immediately dropping the game and a fresh waves of n00bs joining for the Atacama map - it makes no sense. The more I play online, the more I think the server helps out or penalises you in someway - random as that maybe. I simply cannot improve by that much in a matter of seconds - and with the vast majority of the opposition having got familiar names, it's not like many new players were there.

Strange, Very strange indeed?! :)

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