Project Nurburgring (Clio Williams Resto)

[Infinicar]

All,

I have finally bought myself another Williams (to keep this time I hope!)

http://www.cliowilliams.co.ukwww.cliowilliams.co.uk (and this forum thread) will be dedicated to its restoration, and the plan (hence the codename!) is to have it fully restored by end of March 2005 in time to take to the Nurburgring with fellow Cliosporters. Now then, when I say restored, I dont mean an absolute nut and bolt bare metal restoration....I mean take it all apart, replace whats tired, spruce it up put it back to together and get a nice result.....all for as little £ as possible...........hence all the work will be done by myself....new parts will be used where necessary, secondhand parts used where applicable.....

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/1.jpg

A bit about the car - its a semi-tired original, num 0057 which has covered 100 miles short of 100k. Its completly standard and original aside from an ageing stainless steel exhaust system (which is currently hanging off!). Its complete, runs drives OK and unusually has very very little rust - the only major area of concern being the tailgate. The usual rust spots (rear arches, petrol filler, bottom of B Pillars) display no signs of corrosion.

Having gone around the car with the camera (some pics following) Ive identified some initial problem areas........

BODYWORK

Problems: Scratches to roof and boot. NSF wing broken. Tailgate corroded, requires replacing. Broken NS Wing Mirror. 1 Drivers door pin broken.

Remedies: Will go in for a complete re-spray at the beginning of next year. New wing/mirror to be fitted beforehand. New tailgate to be fitted. Remove door and replace pin.

Predicted Cost: £700-£800

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/5.jpg

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/6.jpg

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/7.jpg

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/8.jpg

MECHANICAL

Diagnosis: Appears in good order. Engine cuts out when cold, probably cold start sensor. Drives OK. Gear selection is iffy - initial look underneath indicates distorted selector rod. PAS is predictably noisy although quieter than most Ive heard, but still makes a bit of a racket. Brakes spongy.

Remedies: New discs and pads all round. Engine to be removed and cambelt & tensioners/clutch/alt belt replaced. May also replace PAS pump - also looking into manual steering conversion. Check (and possibly replace when engines out) head gasket and water hoses. Also whilst engines out bleed all brakes and replace master cylinder. Full service all fluids.

Predicted Cost: £250.00 (not incl PAS work)

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/9.jpg

CHASSIS

Problems: Again none that stand out. Will replace suspension units with Clio Cup Suspension. Torsion Bar to be lowered one click. Uprated bushes to be fitted all round. Strut braces to be fitted front and rear. Roll cage is a possibility.

INTERIOR

Unsure on this yet! Will probably remove rear seats/parcel shelf etc. Will keep front pass seat, but replace drivers with a proper racing seat. Unsure how far to take this at the moment. Start button to be installed (next to plaque). One seat rail broken to be replaced. Needs a good clean. Replace worn gearknob and broken glovebox door.

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/10.jpg

WHEELS:

Got 2 sets of wheels with the car. Both fair shabby, but importantly none have gone pourous. Probably get one set refurbed in original gold and the other in the blue matching the car.

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/12.jpg

EXHAUST:

Replace. Unsure of item yet.

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/11.jpg

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So there you have it.....a bit of an insight as to what we are going to do with this little Clio - a sort of restoration project with some track emphasis thrown in for good measure.....

PLease dont anyone contact me for the engine! Its not for sale!!!!!

If any of you have got any ideas etc then do let me know - Im going to fully picture and document everything and include it on the site so that others of you can follow procedures if you decide to replace somthing on your own cars......

Thats it for now....

Paul
http://www.infinicar.comwww.infinicar.com

 

[PJVTS]

Sounds like fun!! will keep an eye on the thread see how ya get on!

 

[RobFenn]

Sounds like a plan Paul! Good luck with it. Id keep the interior stock though..

-Rob

 

[Ali]

I look 4ward to seeing it finished...

 

[miketheman2k]

Quote: Originally posted by Infinicar on 08 December 2004


EXHAUST:

Replace. Unsure of item yet.

Pro-speed! Charlie could make you something tasty

Car looks like a cool project, best of luck.

 

[Winston]

Nice one!!!!

Im in the middle of sorting my valver, To willy/track toy spec

Think youve covered most, was going to surgest a manual rack con, Im in the process of doing this to mine at the minute.

 

[TheJesus]

looks very nice Paul, and its got that all important added bonus... the low number, can you really bring yourself to change the interior and put a roll cage in? (cue violin...)

id like to see the spare set of willy wheels done in anthracite with the silver rim, or white but with silver rim http://www.cliosport.net/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif.

 

[Infinicar]

It will be nice.....thats the plan anyway.

Cars now in my garage engine on the floor....all looks OK nothing particuarly untoward.....ordered some bits from Renault this afternoon, including a new oil pump as well.

Mike - who/where are pro-speed and who is Charlie?

Interior - yes decided against the roll cage.....probably stick with stock interior......might change drivers seat only, but its always reversible! Seat got to come out anyway due to broken seat rail.

Willl continue stripping things off the car ready for its visit to the bodyshop early next yr.

Paul

 

[Illusion]

Good luck with the restoration Paul...

Be good to see the outcome...

So your doin all the the body work yourself aswell then Paul, or you know someone cos £700-800 sounds good?

Mine needs a full respray and arches sorting out too, can u give me a quote?

 

[Martin]

Sounds like a good project....mine could do with similar treatment...tailgate and arches are starting to go....

 

[Infinicar]

Im doing all the panels myself (removing/fitting/prepping) - will hand over to the bodyshop just to paint and lacquer......

Paul

 

[glenn]

good luck mate,restoring my valver spent 400 on cutting out rust and respraying rear panels and sills and boot.new engine with 40k due to go in.not be done for xmas will fit the new seat zorst system,willy wheels in silver are on i got from u!! see your sellin your lotus carlton??

 

[TheJesus]

good luck with the project Paul, make sure you keep us updated with pics of the work ur doing on the car pal.

 

[Infinicar]

Quote: Originally posted by glenn on 08 December 2004

good luck mate,restoring my valver spent 400 on cutting out rust and respraying rear panels and sills and boot.new engine with 40k due to go in.not be done for xmas will fit the new seat zorst system,willy wheels in silver are on i got from u!! see your sellin your lotus carlton??

Nope not selling? What made u think that?

Wheels look good dont they.....specially in silver!

Pau!


[Edited by Infinicar on 08 December 2004 at 10:58pm]

 

[davidol]

charlie is the one mand band of prospeed exhausts in cardiff and locally is a bit of a hero. always up for chat and has loads of time for his customers and will work silly hours if a job needs to be done! Once took him 4 hours to do just a backbox on my mates megane, mainly because mid way through doing it he asked us to look after the workshop and disappeared for 20mins! When he returned he was carrying a jerry can and 2 stroke oil for the mini moto he had purchased earlier that day and then let us play on it with him having gos inbetween for the rest of the night! Finally left at 11PM!!!

Oh yeah and by the way the quality of his work is fantastic! Ask any of his customers on here, im yet to meet a customer which is unhappy with his work!

 

[northy]

Hope your taking lots of pictures pal

 

[miketheman2k]

^^^^ What David said Lots of people on this forum have had a pro-speed exhaust built and weve all been very pleased. Mention this forum and youll no doubt get a good price (and one sweet exhaust).

 

[Infinicar]

Does he build them and send them out? Or does he need the car?

Paul

 

[miketheman2k]

Ideally he would need the car for at least 1/2 day, so that hes got a good idea what needs to be done. He can make certain parts in advance, such as the silencers, etc. to your specficiation.

Give Charlie a call, very friendly bloke 02920 461444 or mailto:charlie@pro-speed.fslife.co.uk">charlie@pro-speed.fslife.co.uk

http://www.pro-speedexhausts.biz/index.htmlhttp://www.pro-speedexhausts.biz/index.html

 

[mark266]

hmmmmmm this sounds interesting

how you change the PAS steering rack to a manual one, does anyone know?

 

[cat171]

good luck paul, i will keep popping back to this thread to view its progress,
and as northy said i hope your taking loads of pictures.

 

[Infinicar]

Ive managed to trace the original owner of the car.....apparently used to call it "Heinz" - as in Heinz 57.......(its will num 57)

Must be weird to be contacted out the blue about a car you owned 10 years ago!

Anyway.....pics are being taken all the time, will post a pic update soon.

Its great having one in my garage again!

Paul

 

[BenR]

If its going to the ring give it some power paul. lol

 

[Mondial172]

Id love to have the money,time and workshop to do all that mate.

Good luck with the project

 

[paddymph]

Is it going to be for sale when youre done with it?

If so Im very interested.

Thanks

Paddy.

 

[TheJesus]

Quote: Originally posted by paddymph on 10 December 2004


Is it going to be for sale when youre done with it?

If so Im very interested.

Thanks

Paddy.

upgrading?

 

[northy]

No car paddy....heehee

see u saturday pal

 

[Infinicar]

Quote: Originally posted by paddymph on 10 December 2004


Is it going to be for sale when youre done with it?

If so Im very interested.

Thanks

Paddy.

Paddy,

Knowing me, probably.......lol.

I want to keep it really but who knows.

Paul

 

[Infinicar]

Quick update!

Ive had some bits and pieces come in.

Clio Cup Suspension Parts

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/susp.jpg

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/susp2.jpg

Timing Belt Kit

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/timing.jpg

New Clutch

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/clutch.jpg

Wheels

http://www.infinicar.com/williams/gen.jpg

Progressing with manual steering conversion research as well. Will update when I have pics and all info.

Paul

 

[paddymph]

u can still get Willy wheels from Renault??

how much do they go for?

 

[Infinicar]

Hi Paddy,

You can get the new from Renault - but these ones arent new, just in boxes!

New ones are £200+ each.

Paul

 

[glenn]

how much were the shocks? will they fit me valver

 

[Mondial172]

Clio Cup springs?

As in Clio 172 Cup or from the Race cars.

 

[Daz.]

Are you leaving the front height standard and just lowering the back by 1 click?

how much is one click anyway? Im curious....

 

[richy]

u dont have to lower the torsion bar by any clicks!! its so easy to lower it and set it to pretty much were u want!

 

[FATBOY]

Quote: Originally posted by Infinicar on 08 December 2004


All,

I have finally bought myself another Williams (to keep this time I hope!)

http://www.cliowilliams.co.ukUwww.cliowilliams.co.uk/U (and this forum thread) will be dedicated to its restoration,





site doesnt exist??? feel free to post on my site about this if you want mate!

 

[paddymph]

Quote: Originally posted by Infinicar on 15 December 2004


Hi Paddy,

You can get the new from Renault - but these ones arent new, just in boxes!

New ones are £200+ each.

Paul






Cheers Paul, coming along nicely huh.

 

[rockport]

Quote: Originally posted by richy on 15 December 2004

u dont have to lower the torsion bar by any clicks!! its so easy to lower it and set it to pretty much were u want!

hows that work without adjusting the torsion bar?

BTW - one click drops the rear to a ridiculous hight i think, something like 60m? Im looking to drop my rear an inch at the most... would love to know how many spines would be needed.

 

[Daz.]

^^^ ive got some 35mm springs been sat in my room for ages pondering about whether to put them on and match them at the back.. 30mm or 3cm is roughly an inch anyway isnt it??

 

[Pete]

Quote: Originally posted by rockport on 16 December 2004

Quote: Originally posted by richy on 15 December 2004

u dont have to lower the torsion bar by any clicks!! its so easy to lower it and set it to pretty much were u want!

hows that work without adjusting the torsion bar?

BTW - one click drops the rear to a ridiculous hight i think, something like 60m? Im looking to drop my rear an inch at the most... would love to know how many spines would be needed.

2 different splines allow you to adjust it to whatever height you want!