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[Whetty]

Evening all, my names Josh aka Whetty.

I'm from the midlands and im about on various other French car websites, (F.UK, 106oc, Saxp etc. same user name)
Currently driving my Second 106 quicksilver, first one was diagnosed with rot and was sentenced to the scrappers in the sky by the MoT man, current one is going well with a monsterous 80bhp, which given its very mild work I was quite pleased with.

I am though looking to upgrade, didn't fancy 3 pugs on the trot nor the inbred saxo :rasp:, so here I am.
never owned a Renault and i dont know anyone who has had a 1*2, so it should be fun. The facelift 172 Cup and 182 Trophy have snagged my attention and im torn between the two.

Trophy is gorgeous but the 172 is far more budget friendly.:approve:

 

[Flat Eric]

Hi and welcome to the forum

 

[McGherkin]

Welcome!

Considered a 182 cup?

 

[Brian]

Welcome to ClioSport, Whetty

 

[George@RTR_Parts]

Welcome!

 

[jesus]

Trophy gets my vote but I'm biased I've had a 172 and it felt like a complete different car.

Oh and welcome to the forum Josh.

 

[Whetty]

Hi and welcome to the forum

Thanks

Welcome!

Considered a 182 cup?

I've had a brief look at them, air con, light washers, abs etc are things I can live without, would be interested to know if the cruise control is able to be moved across to the 172s tho.

 

[McGherkin]

Yeah, it can, I know a few who have done it. Not sure it can be done on all 172's but certainly a lot of them can have cruise retrofitted.

 

[jesus]

Thanks



I've had a brief look at them, air con, light washers, abs etc are things I can live without, would be interested to know if the cruise control is able to be moved across to the 172s tho.

Some of the later 172s (not Cup) have cruise control. Tbh I have cruise control and hardly use it, there's always at least one person driving like a dick on the motorway so you're never at the same speed for long enough in England!

 

[Whetty]

Trophy gets my vote but I'm biased I've had a 172 and it felt like a complete different car.

Oh and welcome to the forum Josh.

oooh i may just have to pick your brains then Jesus, different good or bad? I do love the look of the trophy but the 172 is much easier to get a hold of

 

[Typhoon]

Welcome to CS Josh!

Good luck on your hunt!

If you buy Club Membership, you get access to the for sale sections of the forum.

£10/£12 (I think) well spent for some of the bargains in there!

 

[RallyeSportLee]

Welcome dude...

 

[Whetty]

Yeah, it can, I know a few who have done it. Not sure it can be done on all 172's but certainly a lot of them can have cruise retrofitted.

cool, that your pre face lift in your pic? Are they any different to the post face lift or is it a purely cosmetic difference between the two?

 

[jesus]

oooh i may just have to pick your brains then Jesus, different good or bad? I do love the look of the trophy but the 172 is much easier to get a hold of

Good! Trophy is in a league of it's own. They also will hold their value a lot better... 172s are sometimes going for less than a grand in good condition now.

With the Trophy though you must factor in the cost of a damper refurb if it hasn't already been done, as well as the usual servicing checks (cambelt, dephaser etc.). If all have been done then you're onto a winner

Some inspiration for you:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8530/8599383042_5dd32aa3ac_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8512/8599387686_c9dc2533db_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8598292815_039ec28405_b.jpg

My 172:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/8040062692_655f3f32c2_b.jpg

 

[McGherkin]

cool, that your pre face lift in your pic? Are they any different to the post face lift or is it a purely cosmetic difference between the two?

Yeah, just a 1.2 though! It's mainly a cosmetic change, but the 172's went from cable throttle to drive-by-wire, the 1.2's had 16v instead of my 8, and the DCi was launched. Probably a few other things too.

 

[Whetty]

Good! Trophy is in a league of it's own. They also will hold their value a lot better... 172s are sometimes going for less than a grand in good condition now.

With the Trophy though you must factor in the cost of a damper refurb if it hasn't already been done, as well as the usual servicing checks (cambelt, dephaser etc.). If all have been done then you're onto a winner

Some inspiration for you:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8530/8599383042_5dd32aa3ac_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8512/8599387686_c9dc2533db_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8598292815_039ec28405_b.jpg

My 172:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/8040062692_655f3f32c2_b.jpg

your 172 looks aggressive there all blacked out! very nice. But the Trophy red is hard to resist, I found the evo magazine review on here the other night that mentioned about the Sachs dampers aren't all that well suited for road life salt grime etc knackers them out, whats the cost of a refurb then? extortionate?
also im correct in thinking that Clio's are springs all round

 

[jesus]

your 172 looks aggressive there all blacked out! very nice. But the Trophy red is hard to resist, I found the evo magazine review on here the other night that mentioned about the Sachs dampers aren't all that well suited for road life salt grime etc knackers them out, whats the cost of a refurb then? extortionate?
also im correct in thinking that Clio's are springs all round

This is worth a watch: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/clio/65346/renault-clio-182-trophy

Of course the Sachs are suited for road life - they are fitted to a road car after all!

With refurbs it depends where you go. I'd highly recommend Cornering Force, I think it was £190 but BG charge £400+. Cornering Force do a better job IMO!

Most of them will already have been done though, you just need to check if you were to buy one.

 

[Whetty]

Yeah, just a 1.2 though! It's mainly a cosmetic change, but the 172's went from cable throttle to drive-by-wire, the 1.2's had 16v instead of my 8, and the DCi was launched. Probably a few other things too.

1.2 is cool doubt it would be much slower maybe even quiker than my 1.4 see nothing like that really happened between 106s everything is 8v unless you have a gti, in which case some wiring n piping etc is a bit different :L

 

[Whetty]

This is worth a watch: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/clio/65346/renault-clio-182-trophy

Of course the Sachs are suited for road life - they are fitted to a road car after all!

With refurbs it depends where you go. I'd highly recommend Cornering Force, I think it was £190 but BG charge £400+. Cornering Force do a better job IMO!

Most of them will already have been done though, you just need to check if you were to buy one.

£190 isn't that bad then for a refurb, how often do they need doing or is it just a case of as and when?? anything else to be wary of with these phase 2s?
That video is the exact one that's caused me this dilemma, that scorpion can sounds the dogs danglie's too on the video.

 

[jesus]

As and when really. Once they've been done they'll see a good few years before they need doing again.

There are plenty of exhaust options for the Clios, I've currently got a Milltek on the Trophy which sounds decent.

 

[Whetty]

As and when really. Once they've been done they'll see a good few years before they need doing again.

There are plenty of exhaust options for the Clios, I've currently got a Milltek on the Trophy which sounds decent.

awesome, have you got a prog blog by any chance so i can have a nose

which has been your favourite to drive then the Trophy or the 172, which i understand is a bit lighter and also loses some creature comforts?? guessin you have a few mods and good knowledge if you've taken on the Ring

 

[Loz H]

This is worth a watch: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/renault/clio/65346/renault-clio-182-trophy

Well f**k now i want one

 

[Chi]

To Quote Sir_Dave
You buy a 1.2, you take s**t. You join Cliosport, you take more s**t. Your post count gets a little higher, you take less s**t. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere of Trophy ownership and you've forgotten what s**t even looks like.

Welcome to the layer cake

 

[Tommo.]

Welcome to the forums!

Definitely get a Trophy if you can mate. I thought my 182 was a very capable car and I loved it, but when I drove a Trophy it felt on another level tbh.

 

[Whetty]

I think what i shall do is, do as much research into these two as possible and then have a wonder through them all at Trax :L should be a few Trophys there i hope.

 

[McGherkin]

To Quote Sir_Dave
You buy a 1.2, you take s**t. You join Cliosport, you take more s**t. Your post count gets a little higher, you take less s**t. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere of Trophy ownership and you've forgotten what s**t even looks like.

Welcome to the layercake

FLOL. Currently taking s**t.

 

[jesus]

awesome, have you got a prog blog by any chance so i can have a nose

which has been your favourite to drive then the Trophy or the 172, which i understand is a bit lighter and also loses some creature comforts?? guessin you have a few mods and good knowledge if you've taken on the Ring

Aye, not updated it for ages now so it's a bit dead!

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?663332

The Trophy definitely has better smiles per gallon. From first getting in and sitting in the Recaros to taking it around a few corners on some decent roads, the overall experience is a good one. The 172 just felt like a normal Clio with a big engine! Which essentially, it is.

 

[Whetty]

Aye, not updated it for ages now so it's a bit dead!

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?663332

The Trophy definitely has better smiles per gallon. From first getting in and sitting in the Recaros to taking it around a few corners on some decent roads, the overall experience is a good one. The 172 just felt like a normal Clio with a big engine! Which essentially, it is.

thanks will defo have a nose through it!
so if you dropped some comfy recaros in the 172 would the Trophy still come out on top??

 

[Chi]

thanks will defo have a nose through it!
so if you dropped some comfy recaros in the 172 would the Trophy still come out on top??

​Id say so, its the sachs dampers that make the Trophy what it is..

 

[Elliot182]

My clio 182 FF is for sale including the recaros from the trophys if youre still after a 182

 

[Chi]

Might sell my Trophy of you're interested. .

 

[Whetty]

Might sell my Trophy of you're interested. .

ohh so tempting, lets have a look then you got a blog I can read?

 

[Chi]

Search trophy 321 mate

 

[Whetty]

Search trophy 321 mate

not a huge lot of info available but the 2 threads that came up show it was well care for, how come your tempted to get rid?

 

[Chi]

Got too many cars lol. .. Im not bothered either way. Just painted calipers red and replaced back discs and pads with oem parts. .
Booked in to have stone chips done and wheel refurb. .. All the spending has been done on this one.

 

[Whetty]

Got too many cars lol. .. Im not bothered either way. Just painted calipers red and replaced back discs and pads with oem parts. .
Booked in to have stone chips done and wheel refurb. .. All the spending has been done on this one.

mechanically sound too, yeah I did see one of your posts with 5 on the drive! what's in the other grey Clio?
PM a rough price and spec? doubt il be able to afford it right now but its always good to have sumin to work towards

 

[Chi]

What you driving at the moment?

 

[Whetty]

106 quicksilver, currently 1.4 (hopefully 1.6 vtr before trax)
has solid engine mounts, airfilter, vtr inlet, 421 mani, decat and Alten Grp n exhaust.
polybused disk rear beam conversion, will be lowered 50mm alround on spax dampers
half leather gti interior.
some other little bits and pieces, it goes and sounds alright for what it is tho.