Rob's F4R'd Dynamique Track Car

[ROB91]

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Thanks mate kept it pretty quiet really until we got a good start on it, It all seems to be coming togeather now.... just got to rebuild the head tonight with jord and put everything back on the engine and time it up. Then its all ready to drop in lol.

 

[welshname]

Yeah you didnt post the topic till well after you had decided, remembered speaking to you about it at the big manc meet when most people had pissed off. If it's you I'm thinking of anyway lol.

 

[Jon.G]

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Yeah you didnt post the topic till well after you had decided, remembered speaking to you about it at the big manc meet when most people had pissed off. If it's you I'm thinking of anyway lol.

yeah it is

 

[welshname]

Hi. Meet Jon my Clio liason manager.

Lol

Thought it was, how do you drive it as a daily? Or did you say you have a work van?

 

[MarkOgden]

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Just had a read through now, some work going into that. Keep up the good work mate

Will be good to see it up and running

 

[harribo66]

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i love this thread, credit to all the work withe the engine!!!!

 

[Camble]

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coming along awesome mate!

 

[ROB91]

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Ahhhh... another late night.

Got the head rebuilt tonight, with all new stem seals ect... Head is now back on the block and ready to be sprayed but it got abit too late to carry on.

Will post all the pics up tomorrow when i get time.

 

[f0xy]

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Tasty...

 

[Fred@BTM]

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use a decent headgasket kit dude, i've seen some right shite recently! oh and NEW headbolts, i know what your like

 

[Fred@BTM]

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that rocker cover doesn't look "too" bad TBH

 

[f0xy]

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Yeah, used an 'OEM' one as I've done on mine previous times, from the same supplier etc. Should be reet.

The pics don't really show the rocker well, fair amount of 'dirty' oil on them with sh*te/swarf in, gone now anyway... got the matching one with this head which is now on. I think the new head could be a Ph1, but not too sure on the exact differentiating specs/sizes. The actual physical size of the exhaust port on the back of the head is bigger than the scrap (ph2) head, so I'm guessing thats the case?

 

[Fred@BTM]

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yeah the phs1 exhaust ports are huge compared to the phs2, can't miss them

 

[f0xy]

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Thought so, must be then. The dimensions differed quite a bit when I had a quick measure before

 

[ROB91]

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Hi. Meet Jon my Clio liason manager.

Lol

Thought it was, how do you drive it as a daily? Or did you say you have a work van?

I dont drive it daily mate, yeah have a work van that i use in the week

 

[ROB91]

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Right last night we rebuilt the new head i got the other day after the one that came on the engine was F*cked. Took a while to do but will be well worth it in the long run.

we took all the valves out of the old head as some of them looked brand new and the others were perfect aswel. We decided to clean them up as we went along.

Once all the valves were out of the scrap head..

It was time to change all the stem seals.

Jord picked up a load of new stem seals for me y'day..

We also decided to change the cam seals since we were changing everything else... last thing we wanted was to put it all back togeather and for those to leak.

Once we had all the stem seals up we mopped up all the old oil so that the seals sat perfect.

Replaced them with all the new seal's. They were quite tricky to get on and off. But with a screwdriver and some long nose pliers we got there lol.

Next it was time to lapp all the valves so that they sat perfectly in the seating of the head.

 

[ROB91]

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Once the vlaves were all lapped and cleaned up it was time to put everything back into the head.

Once all the valves were done we decided to test them to see if all the valves were seated as they should be.

Once we had all the valves in and the head was ready to go back onto the block we cleaned the top of the block up and put the new head gasket onto it.

Then we dropped the head onto the block, and tightened up the head bolts as said in the renault manual.

Then we put all the tappets and rockors in soaking them in oila as we went as the head was dry.

 

[ROB91]

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Once everything was in and looked ok we ran sealant all round the top of the head so we could seal the rockor cover.

And then put the head on..... Ahh finally. Hope this doesnt have to come off any time soon lol.

Next we cleaned up the breather plate and put that on. Torqued that up to the correct settings as said by renault.

And there we go. Once complete new head. Took a while but was well worth it. All thats left to do with it is spray the rockor cover but we thought it was best to let the sealant set first. So it was another late night finishing at just after 1am but we got alot done tonight. Lets hope the engine is fine when we go to time it up later on today.

 

[Gray]

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good progress!!!

Hope this one goes ok for you!

 

[welshname]

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cant believe how fast this has come along. absolutely amazing. wish i knew how to do this sort of stuff.

what do you do for a living if you dont mind me asking? is it similar work?

 

[f0xy]

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Hes a plumber/gas engineer, lol. I've just been showing him what to do and telling him to do it so he learns as he goes along after doing these engines for years

 

[welshname]

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he must have had some prior knowledge surely. things like that amaze me. id much rather be able to rebuild engines and swap engines over and have knowledge of the ECU and what does what in the loom, than build servers, computers and networks.

wanna trade?

 

[f0xy]

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Noope really, and I'm sure he will agree, he did not know anything (bar fitting seats and fitting coilovers in the past) before doing the car, never mind the engine. The easiest way to learn is just to do it, as he found out last night. I did the first couple of each process explaining it at the same time then left him to do it - by the last few he knew what he was doing and will remember for the future if he does anything similar again...

When we had started Robs words were 'I want to have go but I don't want to f*ck it up', lol - which it is possible to do if you do it wrong, but if he hadn't had a go he wouldn't have learnt how to do each part. Plus, its pretty hard to f*ck up if you follow instructions/ways of doing things. I know he was glad he had a go of doing the engine as he will appreciate the work thats gone into it when its running, and know that its been done right...

I do networks/servers for a living, which hasn't stopped me doing engines

 

[welshname]

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Noope really, and I'm sure he will agree, he did not know anything (bar fitting seats and fitting coilovers in the past) before doing the car, never mind the engine. The easiest way to learn is just to do it, as he found out last night. I did the first couple of each process explaining it at the same time then left him to do it - by the last few he knew what he was doing and will remember for the future if he does anything similar again...

When we had started Robs words were 'I want to have go but I don't want to f*ck it up', lol - which it is possible to do if you do it wrong, but if he hadn't had a go he wouldn't have learnt how to do each part. Plus, its pretty hard to f*ck up if you follow instructions/ways of doing things. I know he was glad he had a go of doing the engine as he will appreciate the work thats gone into it when its running, and know that its been done right...

I do networks/servers for a living, which hasn't stopped me doing engines

YOU MULTI TALENTED b*****d.

 

[f0xy]

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Its just a matter of giving it a try - problem is you need time/space/spare money to have a project that goes into that much depth. You'l be surprised how much you learn..

 

[ROB91]

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he must have had some prior knowledge surely. things like that amaze me. id much rather be able to rebuild engines and swap engines over and have knowledge of the ECU and what does what in the loom, than build servers, computers and networks.

wanna trade?

As jord said, all i have done before is change coilovers, seats, topmounts ect.... never done anything to do with an engine before. Just learning as i go. Just lucky that jord knows what he is doing to guide me through it. Im really enjoying the conversion and learnig what im doing/why were doing it at the same time. And if anything goes wrong in the future ill be able to sort it out myself.

 

[f0xy]

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Well it certainly must have been a f*cked head/rocker cover beforehand, as the cams that came with the matching head spin perfectly in it. Whoever built it up must have used parts from anything and everything. Timed it up earlier and span it over numerous times with ease, decent compression - all good to go :approve:

 

[welshname]

Finally some good news. If all goes to plan how long till completion?

 

[ROB91]

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Think were going to get the engine in and running tonight if all goes to plan.

 

[welshname]

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Take a lot of pictures.

 

[ROB91]

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will get a vid too if it runs mate.

 

[ROB91]

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So once the engine was togeather and the paint had set we started to time the engine up. I painted the rockor cover matt red as i didnt wat to paint everything matt black.

Timing the engine up...

New cam belt

Then we started to put the last few final bits on, engine mounts, cambelt cover ect ect

Lower inlet on..

Upper inlet back on and exhaust manifold......

 

[JamesBryan]

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Engine looks mint all painted up Rob :approve:

 

[welshname]

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that looks awesome.

 

[ROB91]

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Cheers, was going to paint the rockor cover matt balck but i got persuaded to paint it matt red, it looks a million times better with the red breaking up the all the black lol.

 

[Gray]

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That looks rather smart... Almost there now!

 

[Matt_Fezzy]

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WOW, Rob you actually look like your doing some work in some of the pics. Or huddled on the flood hoping nothing else breaks!!

Looking good

 

[f0xy]

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Looking for all the nuts and bolts that had been 'misplaced' lol

 

[Mcaff]

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Engine looks great, awesome work

 

[Fred@BTM]

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I do networks/servers for a living, which hasn't stopped me doing engines

it that why you think its a good idea to run with no bias valve then?