RSi Compared to Valver

[_Tom]

Ha ha this really was quite funny!

Let my mate with a 1.8 8v Rsi have a go in my valver and i had a go in his RSi. What a difference there is between the two cars! He came back after driving mine with a massive grin and swears hes getting one!

The RSi has much more low down torque but handle sh*te compared to the valver?? Is it a different track on the two? First and second aint bad in em but it seemed to lack in third and forth and is missing 1k of revs! Lol 6k - whats that all about!

Such a different car!

Thnak god for 8 more valves and an extra cam!

 

[Daz]

Totally different suspension I think, 16v has wider track etc..

Never driven one.. altho, Ive never driven a 16v either..

 

[_Tom]

Oh! Lol

I always thought the RSi and valver were the same track but the willy is different. TBH if you drove a RSi after a williams you would probably cry! It seems to pull willy stylee with low down torque, just missing 40 odd bhp!

14" wheels and it not being lowered probs didnt help its handling!

 

[Daz]

Nah, RSi is Renaults "Sport" model.. 16v/Williams is RenaultSports.

RSi is standard Mk1 track like 1.4 RT etc.., 16v is wider front and back.. then the Williams is wider still at the front, but same as the 16v at the back.

 

[Dan_mk1]

ive had a few 8v cars, they run out of puff far too quick, 16vs rule! lol

 

[iPap]

14" wheels are the best for the handling on an RSi.

I cant believe you slate it. I had one and would chose one over a valver anyday. I personally believe that Valvers in standard trim are fairly bland and have become the upmarket Nova of today.

 

[_Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by Daz on 29 June 2004


Nah, RSi is Renaults "Sport" model.. 16v/Williams is RenaultSports.

RSi is standard Mk1 track like 1.4 RT etc.., 16v is wider front and back.. then the Williams is wider still at the front, but same as the 16v at the back.

Its the same track as the 1.4! No wonder it seemed like death on wheels when it came to a corner! lol

And nicky they are sh*t at handling compared to a valver! Lol

I still rate the cars though and are fun to drive!

 

[DAVE_RSi]

Havent drove a valver but the RSi is a lovely car,

the power is enough 4 me as im only 19 and in anythin faster i would prob drive like a t**ser and not b able 2 handle the car aswell,

+ insurance and price of buyin car is more 4 a valver

for an 8valve engine it performs well, its my first clio, 5th car

metro, ax gt , ax gt, corsa, clio rsi,

the 2nd ax gt was pretty fast, rsi is a nice bit faster, the corsa 1.4 16v was shocking, it just wouldnt shift unless u redlined 2nd gear, by the way i only got the corsa cos sum1 wanted a straight swap of my old axgt for a P reg corsa nice profit 4 me

anyway i cant knock the rsi, mayb i shouldnt get in a valver cos i mite b dissapointed with the rsi afterwards

but anyway its affordable 2 me and im on tight budget and its fast enough 4 me

 

[_Tom]

Yeah yeah dont get me wrong! The RSi is a nice car but mate you should drive a valver because youll love it!

As for the costs - a valver may cost more to buy but is insurance much more? Me and my mate are both 19 and i actually pay less insurance on my valver!

As for axs - I had one for a month as a gap car. Quite fun but shockin brakes and handling!

 

[iPap]

Quote: Originally posted by 1.8_16v_Clio on 29 June 2004


Yeah yeah dont get me wrong! The RSi is a nice car but mate you should drive a valver because youll love it!

You cant say that!

A Ferrari Enzo is better than a valver, you should drive one because youll love it!

See what Im saying.

The RSi offers reliability and value for money well above that of a valver.

Oh and my Unski pisses on valvers! In yer face!

 

[Glennclio16v]

Nickys rsi was a nice one! Nippy lil fooker too! Had a good long run with it on the way to the Braintree Karting day a while back before he sold it!!

 

[iPap]

Didnt stop you whooping me fella! lol

 

[_Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004

Quote: Originally posted by 1.8_16v_Clio on 29 June 2004


Yeah yeah dont get me wrong! The RSi is a nice car but mate you should drive a valver because youll love it!

You cant say that!

A Ferrari Enzo is better than a valver, you should drive one because youll love it!

See what Im saying.

The RSi offers reliability and value for money well above that of a valver.

Oh and my Unski pisses on valvers! In yer face!

Well mate it looks like i did say it! Why did that comment get on your tits so much?! Im not saying a valver is better than a RSi - just to drive one cus hell probs love it! I think hell be amazed how different the cars are as my mate who owns an RSi was!

Its only like a williams owner telling me to drive one because ill love it - i would take no offence in that at all!

As for the Unski comment - does that make you feel big? Your car may be faster yes but it offends my eyes its so ugly!

Oh and theres nothing stopping me buying a faster car than your Unski if i wanted - i just choose not to and dont need to tbh! The valver will do me for now and i havent claimed it to be fast so dont see why youve even mentioned this!

 

[fastwunz]

THE VALVER IS BETTER THAN THE RSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS THE WHOLE BLOODY POINT SURELY! ITS QUICKER, HANDLES BETTER, LOOKS BETTER AND HAS BETTER UNDERPNNINGS IN MANY DEPPARTMENTS. The Rsi is still a goodun tho before you go into Valver territory.

 

[iPap]

Not anymore, 90% of valvers are cained and mistreated. You cant get a good one and not expect to have to waste money on it.

RSis are still worth what you pay for them and have normally be owned by more sensible previous owners.

In regards to my sh*t heap Unski, I paid a whole nothing for it, thats the only reason I drive it. So £ for BHP I think Im doing quite well. Yer the unski is f**king ugly but the valver was hardly the pinnacle of aesthetics either now or when it was designed.

When the Unski was sourced it was sourced according to five characteristics:

1. Had to be a MkII
2. Had to be Sunroof free.
3. It had to be white.
4. It had to be low milage.
5. It had to be "anti-skid" free.

It took 2 and a half years for the last owner to find this car and its a mint example (apart for two or three small spots of surface rust).

If you can find a better car for under £1500 Id be surprised.

Feel free to tell me how your valver is the greatest car on the road some more, even despite its well know inherent problems.

 

[_Tom]

NickyB - please go back and read the whole thread again!

When have i said my valver is better than your car? Answer:- i havent and wont! I just said your car was ugly when you felt you had to say your car is faster than mine for some unknown reason!

As for my valver - it clearly has been looked after and i have had less probs with mine than my mate with his RSi. But yeah it all depends on previous owners, as any car! Ill agreee with you.

I really cant see what your problem is and may ask for this to be locked! I havent slated an RSi once - just wrote my experience - and said that i reckon a RSi drivers should have a go in a valver because its so different. Its like someone sayin to Drive a punto gt- same engine diffrent car and im sure it feels different!

As for fastwunz comment - i dont feel it was needed and i didnt post this for RSis to be slated because they shouldnt.

Please can you tell me why your going on one because i cant work it out!!

 

[iPap]

Just because something costs more or is further up the range doesnt mean it is better.

VHS vs Betamax?

Bollox to this sh*t anyway.

 

[_Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004


Just because something costs more or is further up the range doesnt mean it is better.

VHS vs Betamax?

Bollox to this sh*t anyway.

Are you a licker or something!

I HAVENT SAID A VALVER IS BETTER THAN AN RSI!! GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD! IVE JUST SAID ITS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CAR TO DRIVE AND THEYLL PROBS ENJOY THE EXPERIENCE!

 

[DazRsi]

i own a RSI lowered allround 50mm 16 gold speedlines and it handles great, i do admit a standard rsi was sh*t for handling nearly toppled mine twice

had few engine mods and had it rolling road at janspeed 127 bhp i think thats good for an RSI and most standard valvers cant leave me so im impressed with me little beast still trying to make it faster tho

ive been in a valver and yeah it is a totally different ride to the rsi as standard but finding a decent valver these days are like trying to spot a modded robbin reliant

 

[DazRsi]

but given the chance id swop my Rsi for a valver anyday

 

[iPap]

Read your first post...

And around Town the RSi is quicker for sure...

 

[DAVE_RSi]

127bhp u b*****d!!!! i had 116.4bhp at witham the other day and was happy with that, that was on standard RSi with just a backbox with 2.5" tail pipe

so least mine seems 2 b running alrite, what mods have u doe 2 achieve 127????

.Dave.

 

[Daz]

Oh dear, Oh dear.

Come on.. cant we get along? Heh.

 

[_Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004


Read your first post...

And around Town the RSi is quicker for sure...

Ill agree - around town with the low down torque i would actaully put the RSi quicker yes! We agree - yay!



127 bhp RSi - that must be quick and fun to drive!

 

[DazRsi]

i brought the car of a friend who had the RSI done then decided to by a motorbike to travel

Headwork, cams and other things were done to it apparently, ive got a bunch of receipts sumwere so i,ll have a look and then tell ya the exact work thats be done on it

 

[DazRsi]

i have two RSI for some reason 127bhp RSI i dont use which is at my brothers because its off the road untill i get it repaired and another RSI which is my pride and joy and is probly running abit more then 112bhp and is nicely modified

 

[ivegota16v]

valver is better than the rsi

thats like saying a 182 is better than a v6!!!!!!!!!

i spose in some rare circumstances that latter is true, ie its better for fuel i suspect, but the valver is much better than the rsi for sure!!!!

u dont see the rsi as a rally car do u?

 

[iPap]

You get much beter value for money in an RSi.

 

[DazRsi]

agree, RUST FREE ARCHES lol

 

[ivegota16v]

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004


You get much beter value for money in an RSi.

true indeed they are cheaper!! and less to go wrong, but i have to say in my valver i have no rusty rear arches, and the the little beast has been spot on since ive bought it!!!!

as for pound per performance the valver is a v good bet when u compare its speed to modern day hatches, can embarass cars that cost easily 3 times there amount!!

i think that at the end of the day you pay your money and make your choice, if your young the valver is expensive to insure, but if you want that rally car inspired handling, the 7200rpm limit and the noise then its the one to get!!

mind u this thread reminds me of my 205xs vs 205gti, the little xs was a fecking mint little car 1.4 8valve 0-60 of 8.7 or someit at the time and used to fly, used to embarass many a hot hatch of the day then (few years back now) but still, i always new the 1.9gti was the daddy to have!!!

 

[Smokey]

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004


Not anymore, 90% of valvers are cained and mistreated. You cant get a good one and not expect to have to waste money on it.

RSis are still worth what you pay for them and have normally be owned by more sensible previous owners.

In regards to my sh*t heap Unski, I paid a whole nothing for it, thats the only reason I drive it. So £ for BHP I think Im doing quite well. Yer the unski is f**king ugly but the valver was hardly the pinnacle of aesthetics either now or when it was designed.

When the Unski was sourced it was sourced according to five characteristics:

1. Had to be a MkII
2. Had to be Sunroof free.
3. It had to be white.
4. It had to be low milage.
5. It had to be "anti-skid" free.

It took 2 and a half years for the last owner to find this car and its a mint example (apart for two or three small spots of surface rust).

If you can find a better car for under £1500 Id be surprised.

Feel free to tell me how your valver is the greatest car on the road some more, even despite its well know inherent problems.





Has Nicky spat his dummy out the pram again Give it back to him Daz







2.0ltr 16v £4k









Plug

Plug

 

[_Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by Smokey on 29 June 2004

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004


Not anymore, 90% of valvers are cained and mistreated. You cant get a good one and not expect to have to waste money on it.

RSis are still worth what you pay for them and have normally be owned by more sensible previous owners.

In regards to my sh*t heap Unski, I paid a whole nothing for it, thats the only reason I drive it. So £ for BHP I think Im doing quite well. Yer the unski is f**king ugly but the valver was hardly the pinnacle of aesthetics either now or when it was designed.

When the Unski was sourced it was sourced according to five characteristics:

1. Had to be a MkII
2. Had to be Sunroof free.
3. It had to be white.
4. It had to be low milage.
5. It had to be "anti-skid" free.

It took 2 and a half years for the last owner to find this car and its a mint example (apart for two or three small spots of surface rust).

If you can find a better car for under £1500 Id be surprised.

Feel free to tell me how your valver is the greatest car on the road some more, even despite its well know inherent problems.






Has Nicky spat his dummy out the pram again Give it back to him Daz







2.0ltr 16v £4k









Plug

Plug

Someones gotta buy it soon with all this plugging!

 

[iPap]

Quote: Originally posted by 1.8_16v_Clio on 29 June 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Smokey on 29 June 2004

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004


Not anymore, 90% of valvers are cained and mistreated. You cant get a good one and not expect to have to waste money on it.

RSis are still worth what you pay for them and have normally be owned by more sensible previous owners.

In regards to my sh*t heap Unski, I paid a whole nothing for it, thats the only reason I drive it. So £ for BHP I think Im doing quite well. Yer the unski is f**king ugly but the valver was hardly the pinnacle of aesthetics either now or when it was designed.

When the Unski was sourced it was sourced according to five characteristics:

1. Had to be a MkII
2. Had to be Sunroof free.
3. It had to be white.
4. It had to be low milage.
5. It had to be "anti-skid" free.

It took 2 and a half years for the last owner to find this car and its a mint example (apart for two or three small spots of surface rust).

If you can find a better car for under £1500 Id be surprised.

Feel free to tell me how your valver is the greatest car on the road some more, even despite its well know inherent problems.






Has Nicky spat his dummy out the pram again Give it back to him Daz







2.0ltr 16v £4k









Plug

Plug

Someones gotta buy it soon with all this plugging!

Shame it falls in the 90%

 

[Smokey]

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004

Quote: Originally posted by 1.8_16v_Clio on 29 June 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Smokey on 29 June 2004

Quote: Originally posted by NickyB on 29 June 2004


Not anymore, 90% of valvers are cained and mistreated. You cant get a good one and not expect to have to waste money on it.

RSis are still worth what you pay for them and have normally be owned by more sensible previous owners.

In regards to my sh*t heap Unski, I paid a whole nothing for it, thats the only reason I drive it. So £ for BHP I think Im doing quite well. Yer the unski is f**king ugly but the valver was hardly the pinnacle of aesthetics either now or when it was designed.

When the Unski was sourced it was sourced according to five characteristics:

1. Had to be a MkII
2. Had to be Sunroof free.
3. It had to be white.
4. It had to be low milage.
5. It had to be "anti-skid" free.

It took 2 and a half years for the last owner to find this car and its a mint example (apart for two or three small spots of surface rust).

If you can find a better car for under £1500 Id be surprised.

Feel free to tell me how your valver is the greatest car on the road some more, even despite its well know inherent problems.






Has Nicky spat his dummy out the pram again Give it back to him Daz







2.0ltr 16v £4k









Plug

Plug

Someones gotta buy it soon with all this plugging!

Shame it fell in the 90%






Yeah your right it has cost me an absolute fortune, at least the NEW OWNER wont have to spend a penny on it as i have had it all done

[Edited by Smokey on 29 June 2004 at 4:46pm]