should the brakes on a 182 be as sharp as a 1.2 dynamique?

[Anni182]

i test drove my 182 yesterday and i couldnt help but comment on how disappointed i was with the brakes. don't get me wrong, they weren't bad or anything but they just didnt feel as sharp as i thought they would be, having driven my ex's 1.2 51 reg dynamique i used to nearly go through the windscreen the brakes were that sharp in that, i was expecting it in the 182 but they weren't!

also, i was disappointed with how 'average' the 182 felt at under 5,000 revs! ive driven a 182 before but i didn't remember it feeling so average under 5,000 revs, i hope there's nothing wrong with it lol.

doesn't help that my bf thought it was slow (til 5,000 revs) and was also very disappointed as he had never driven a 182 before, he's got a valver but with a tuned williams engine in it so it's nearly 190bhp i think, and that delivers power all the way through the revs, not only from 5,000 revs + so he wasn't expecting it to be like that!

 

[Rich]

The brakes don't have the same over the top feel from servo assistance like they do on the 1.2, mine feel average from cold but work well when there is so heat in them.

 

[edde]

Might be the brakes need bleeding but the 182 brakes arn't as sharp and touchey anyway due to there stetup.

 

[Anni182]

thanks guys
its going in to renault tomorrow before i pick it up next week for a brake check anyway as i requested it, but i just wanted to check

 

[Mark5290]

I'm pretty sure BrianR answered this question in another thread, something to do with the 1.2 having a bigger servo than the 182.

 

[edde]

I'm pretty sure BrianR answered this question in another thread, something to do with the 1.2 having a bigger servo than the 182.

Ye they make it a big servo so you touch the brakes and get a lot more stopping power.

However 182 do suffer from brake problems anyway.

 

[ja.jack]

I've never thought the brakes on mine were all that great.

 

[C.slicker]

Yeah I must admit I find the 1.2 brakes are either not working at all or ABS is kicking in. Little feel and little middle ground.

 

[Mark5290]

My brakes definately feel better since changing just the brake lines for goodridge braided hoses, i was sceptical before fitting them to whether i would notice any difference.

 

[springer]

Must admit i commented on the brakes not being sharp when i test drove mine,not as good as my old focus ones.

 

[Ads_172]

I have to admit, I wouldn't say my 172 feels 'average' under 5k. Nothing amazing but it's still got a fair bit of pick up, especially from 3k.

 

[lusty v-tec]

I went out with mike in his 182 a few months back and I liked the 5k kick.

I think it gives the car more character and makes the engine feel more alive and special.

I can imagine if you had power all the time then it would get boring but having the 5k kick is a bit like feeling a turbo engage!

 

[Leeshez]

I would say no. I had a megane and breaked like i did in my clio and nearly went through the window.

 

[rory182]

5k kick rules, the whole thing equates to good fuel economy at low revs and good fun at high revs!

Can't fault my brakes, even managed to lock up briefly from 90mph lol doh cars not good under braking but the brakes are good they stop you very effectively. The 182 can out stop some supercars apparently...

 

[Munson]

I used to suffer from some very rare and random problems. Since I changed to greenstuff pads, they have been 100% reliable. As has already been said, the 182 brakes are not over assisted like most cars these days. The pay off is better pedal feel and more progressive braking than you'd get with brakes that 'put you through the windscreen'. Over assisted brakes suck IMO.

 

[Leeshez]

Once in my 182 i was coming off the motorway and was slowing from about 60ish and the dam car would not stop. It just rolled over the line at the end of the slip road. Been ok ever since. Lucky it was a sunday and quiet

 

[Munson]

Once in my 182 i was coming off the motorway and was slowing from about 60ish and the dam car would not stop. It just rolled over the line at the end of the slip road. Been ok ever since. Lucky it was a sunday and quiet

Yeah I had a few of those before I upgraded the pads. Probably 3 or 4 times I experienced that, hot or cold, wet or dry, there was no pattern. It felt to me like a complete lack of vacuum in the servo.

 

[Lagerlout]

I used to suffer from some very rare and random problems. Since I changed to greenstuff pads, they have been 100% reliable. As has already been said, the 182 brakes are not over assisted like most cars these days. The pay off is better pedal feel and more progressive braking than you'd get with brakes that 'put you through the windscreen'. Over assisted brakes suck IMO.

Totally agree Roy. My girlfriends 1.4 Mk3 Clio has brakes which appear to operate like a switch. lol. They're either fully on or full off and with zero pedal feel. You do have to work the 1*2 brakes but they're pretty effective. I have greenstuff pads and they brake superbly for a fast road pad - Just don't stand up to much really hard braking.

In fact I get better feedback from my Xbox 360 steering wheel and pedals than I do in that car. She loves it though. lol.

 

[Munday]

My brakes have never been that sharp either but to be honest, if you needed to stop in an emergency (like I have a few times) they seem to do the job.
As for it feeling sluggish, you need to work the engine to get the best out if it. If you are in 5th doing about 40/50 the pickup is never going to be as good as doing it in 3rd etc.

 

[Lagerlout]

It's a 2.0 16v NA with fairly lairy cams. Never going to pull like a diesel at 2krpm. Although that said I find the engine is actually quite torquey and you can scoot about at a fair rate even off cam. Ideal for everyday driving imho.

A remap will improve the low down pull if that's what you're interested in.

 

[rory182]

aftermarket exhaust also helps free up some low end torque I find allowing me to use 2nd where I would previously have to use 1st (i.e. crawling traffic!)

 

[Munson]

I quite often pull away in 2nd anyway TBH

 

[AmirClio]

I thought that was the idea behind it - Having good economy and then good fun at higher revs when needed! The handling was great, didnt feel as quick as the 16 year old Tungy though .

 

[Ad]

no offence, but if it has been owned by a women for the last 19k it will need some breaking in terms of the engine. It will still be pretty tight.

I had issues with brakes on my 172, but 182 was fine as is my ph quick. They dont snatch like the 1.2 but still plenty of breaking power.

 

[oska]

I didn't like the brakes when I borrowed a 1.2 they just grab all of a sudden with no progression. I've done some very rapid stops in my 182 and they are more than adequate. They should be considering they should be stopping a saloon.

 

[Anni182]

no offence, but if it has been owned by a women for the last 19k it will need some breaking in terms of the engine. It will still be pretty tight.

I had issues with brakes on my 172, but 182 was fine as is my ph quick. They dont snatch like the 1.2 but still plenty of breaking power.

it was a renaultuk car but from new was leased out to a manager of another company, and THEN sold to the lady 7 months later i think. no need for sexist remarks ad, how do you know the woman drove it in such a way?!

 

[Alan]

The 182 compared to the 1.2 under braking is worlds apart, theres a few factors that should be takin into consideration when comparing them.

The 182 2.0 16v is a physically heavier engine than the 1.2 16v.

The 182 may be carring more speed than the 1.2.

 

[rory182]

a few factors that should be takin into consideration when comparing them.

The 182 2.0 16v is a physically heavier engine than the 1.2 16v.

The 182 may be carrying more speed than the 1.2.

No sh1t sherlock, you wanna tell Renault or shall I? lol

 

[Justin182]

Definately agree with the random scary 182 braking probs.

A couple of approaches to motorway roundabouts from high speed has scared me to death.

Decided you cant put a price on safety and just upgraded the whole lot...... stops on a penny now.

 

[Gaz_]

182's suffer with the pads seizing into the calipers. I recently purchased a 182 and they were shocking. On close inspection the pads were fucked, along with the discs. (pads were seized f**king the discs) Mate who works at renault has seen a few seized in pads also on 182's. Mine was also on similar milage to yours...... Replaced the pads and discs, all is now well...... although i still don't think they are as good as the cup set up. Get them checked out.

 

[edde]

The 182 can out stop some supercars apparently...

Same brakes as the 172 they have and they are as fast stopping for 60 as
911 996 GT3 3.6
Zonda

 

[Anni182]

182's suffer with the pads seizing into the calipers. I recently purchased a 182 and they were shocking. On close inspection the pads were f**ked, along with the discs. (pads were seized f**king the discs) Mate who works at renault has seen a few seized in pads also on 182's. Mine was also on similar milage to yours...... Replaced the pads and discs, all is now well...... although i still don't think they are as good as the cup set up. Get them checked out.

yeah, the guy at the garage has written on my order form/invoice that he will get them checked at renault along with the tracking so hopefully he will!

 

[Gaz_]

It needs more than a quick look, pads need to come out for insection imo, easy job mind. This might also be your problem of the car pulling whilst braking........?

 

[Dean]

182's suffer with the pads seizing into the calipers. I recently purchased a 182 and they were shocking. On close inspection the pads were f**ked, along with the discs. (pads were seized f**king the discs) Mate who works at renault has seen a few seized in pads also on 182's. Mine was also on similar milage to yours...... Replaced the pads and discs, all is now well...... although i still don't think they are as good as the cup set up. Get them checked out.

intresting, iv just got a 05 182 with 16k on clock, brakes were s**t, discs looked worn out, anyways the pads were stuck on and this had caused the discs to wear badly!

changed them now and there fine but i still dont think there as good as the girl next doors cup brakes

 

[SBV116]

Common as fook! pads seized in the carriers giving bad brakes, as gaz said his were seized, to the point i had to smack them out with a hammer!

 

[Gaz_]

Afternoon! Yep, not as good as the Cup in my eyes. (i now have the same set up with pads etc) The servo assistance is different apparently!

 

[SBV116]

Evenin! The cup brakes are awesome to be fair!! A big dirty ass 4x4 launched a stone at it earlier kevin!:dapprove:

 

[Gaz_]

Yeah i dont reckon they are as good, they are good, but not cup good

 

[SBV116]

Thats ok though, cos they dont go as fast as the cup.... Fuse lit!

 

[Gaz_]

the truth!