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sonny172cup "track car to race car project"



  Cup In bits
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Nice so far, what kind of catch tank is that and what have you done with the crankcase breather? I have been told that outlet from the rocker cover that you have feeding to catch tank can be left open, no oil comes out???
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Nice so far, what kind of catch tank is that and what have you done with the crankcase breather? I have been told that outlet from the rocker cover that you have feeding to catch tank can be left open, no oil comes out???


I purchased it from ebay. I never had the crank case filter on and vapour drops was still being forced out by air pressure(?) from the IM.

Here it is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALLOY-2LT...CarParts_SM&hash=item3f19d4a577#ht_500wt_1127

I wish I went for this one that has three inlet/outlets.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BAFFLED-2...CarParts_SM&hash=item2eac26b14c#ht_500wt_1127
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Went to Snetterton last week for a Opentrack track day, was the first time the Clio had been taken on track.

I am very impressed. I do however need to sort my camber out and get coiilovers.

Good to see a few other Clios on track too, anyone from here?

Here are a few pics


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Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

The ones I had on before was smaller, made the mistake of ordering the wrong ones, but they did look cool, but could not see anything out of the near side due to A pillar obscuring the mirror. These ones seem fine/

Regarding the mirrors, I need to strengthen the backing plates as there was movements at high speed. The actual mirrors seemed fine.
 
  172monaco*&*passat
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

acoustic valve system,& carbon canister did you need to blank anything of as im wanting my other half to do the same?? thanks michelle..
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

acoustic valve system,& carbon canister did you need to blank anything of as im wanting my other half to do the same?? thanks michelle..

im running ITB so the AV system was redundant anyway. So was easy just taking it out.

Same for the carbon canister. I just tied it all up in the wheel arch. I left the vent pipe open to vent vapour (think thats what is does). It may throw a fault code in the ECU but it wont light up the EML on the dash irrc.
 
More parts to go on that I already have

4 x 16mm Huncentric spacers
Braided brake lines all round
Rear camber shims
Fire extinguisher system
RBF600 brake fluid
Passenger bucket seat with harness
V straps to convert to 6 point harness.

Parts to order and fit
Coilovers
Perspex front side widows
6 point roll cage
2 x kill switches
Solid front top mounts
Front camber bolts
GRP bonnet
Lightweight battery
 
  GT86, 335, Westfield
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Any video of your trackday?

Looks like a Gopro on the dash in one photo.
 
Any video of your trackday?

Looks like a Gopro on the dash in one photo.

Both was a total fail. The GoPro was set too low, so could not see any of the track, only me faffing about and the iphone was recording in Harrys lap timer mode however its really shaky as the mount was a fleabay one. I will log onto a computer and post the link.
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Work on the Clio has started up again.

Rain was set so I put up the Gazebo and got the car ready

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First thing was to finish off with the brake cooling. So I started by cutting some small pieces of Nimbus heat shield down and attached them to one of the wishbone support brackets using Jubilee clips. This looks spot on there is no fouling with the wheels or brake lines.

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Next was to fit the Spax RSX coilovers, these was pretty much a straight fit and no real dramas. I added the KTEC top mounts, front camber bolts and rear camber shims at the same time. I also added 16mm spacers all round. Took me the best part of a day.

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The top struts need fixing to the body by drilling three holes.

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Coilovers on and a quick trip to AMD to get a emergency 4WLA done.

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The coilovers I have set to 8 clicks from the softer setting (so midrange) and seem pretty good to me. I have already tested them on track and im more than happy with the set up.

At Brands a few nights ago, playing with another Cup. Must say I am pretty impressed with how she handled. I am uploading some footage, so will post up shortly.

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Mr R.

ClioSport Club Member
  A special one.
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Car looks great, top work.

Where did you get your coilovers from if you dont mind me asking?
Im after a set of coilovers for my PH1 but mines a road car.

Scott.
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

***UPDATE***

Finally got round to fitting the fire extinguisher system.

You will see I went through the bulkhead above the driver.

I have used cable ties for the nozzle spray, this will be swapped over for a metal Bracket, as cable ties are not recommended.

Nozzle spares are aimed at fuel rail and driver lower torso

Will let the pics do the talking

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  Cup In bits
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Nice update, I am just getting round to ordering and fitting perspex and fire extinguisher to mine so good info.

Few questions, Where did you get the windows? are the rears thermo formed?
What was the length of the extinguisher pull cords and do you only have two nozzles?
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Nice update, I am just getting round to ordering and fitting perspex and fire extinguisher to mine so good info.

Few questions, Where did you get the windows? are the rears thermo formed?
What was the length of the extinguisher pull cords and do you only have two nozzles?

The windows was ordered from acwmotorsportplastics (Around £170ish inc CS discount). Not sure if the rears are or not... http://www.acwmotorsportplastics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=12_64

The Fire Ext system came with 2 x 6ft pull cords, I cut these down to fit, so I reckon 4ft cables will be enough, however I did route mine across dash. Pack comes with 2 nozzles, see here http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/race/plumbed-in-systems/lifeline-club-fire-marshal-2-25-ltr
I also purchased two bulk head fittings http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motor...feline-bulkhead-fitting-for-extinguisher-pipe
 
  182 Cup/Mk5 Gti
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Looking good mate. Was there much weight saving on the polycarbs vs the lighter cup glass? I had acw polycarbs in my fiesta rs turbo. There good value :)
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Looking good mate. Was there much weight saving on the polycarbs vs the lighter cup glass? I had acw polycarbs in my fiesta rs turbo. There good value :)

It is a good weight saving, its not just the cup glass, but all the glue that holds the rears in and the electric motors in the doors that come out too, so its about 5kg in total. I never weighed these items, but a chap on here did (search) and it was worth it.

One of the rear windows I took a Stanley blade and a Gerber to it...took me about 2 hours to remove it, second window I took a hammer to it, took me about 30 seconds to remove lol (just tape both sides of the window up). If your cutting it out, its best to do it on a warm day as it will come out easier.
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Looking good, might want to check your extinguisher "T" connector as the feed has to come from the bottom of the "T". Hits the horizontal bit and you get 50% going each way. The way you have it 90% will go to the bay and it'll be only back pressure forcing it out over the driver. Has to be pointing at the bulk head\feet area too. Stopping the flames from reaching the driver - aiding his escape.

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Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Ahh thanks for that, did not know that about the T-connector, will adjust this soon. I thought it had to aim at the feet/foot well area as well, but read that lower torso is/was acceptable. Suppose flame start at the base, so that's the best area. Thanks for the help.

Any pics of your engine bay nozzle?
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Thought I had, will get one and post tomorrow or day after.

Just looked at yours again and mine is in the same position, just with an alloy bracket.
 
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NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Looking good mate. Was there much weight saving on the polycarbs vs the lighter cup glass? I had acw polycarbs in my fiesta rs turbo. There good value :)

It works out around 50-60% weight saving. 2 front polycarbs weigh the equivalent of one piece of front glass. I weighed everything on mine when it was removed.
I've got the weights written down at home for the glass vs polycarbs.
 

NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Looking good mate. Was there much weight saving on the polycarbs vs the lighter cup glass? I had acw polycarbs in my fiesta rs turbo. There good value :)

It works out around 50-60% weight saving. 2 front polycarbs weigh the equivalent of one piece of front glass. I weighed everything on mine when it was removed.
I've got the weights written down at home for the glass vs polycarbs.
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

I started to weight the parts that I took out of the car as reference. I used a pair of old fishing scales, so I hope their still calibrated.

2.2kg Both Window motors complete
2 kg Both wing mirrors complete
2.8kg Tool Kit
3.5kg Front side window
3 kg Rear side window (including rubber edging)
4.8kg Back bench lower
9kg Back bench upper
3.2 Both front seat belt mechanisms
18.4 Single front seat
3.2kg Steering wheel with airbag
1.6kg Head unit
2kg Parcel shelf
2kg Roof lining
8kg Both front door cards
7.5kg Carpets
0.8kg Bulkhead heat shield
2.3kg Isofix bar
1.5kg Carbon Canister with bracket
1.5 Acoustic valve
0.8kg Foglights
2kg Nuts, bolts and bits
6kg Bag of further bits (Speakers, sun visors, rear seat belt rolls).

Total weight saving of 113.4kg right there.

I never even got to weight the other stuff that I binned, reckon there was at least another 10kg of plastic and sound deadening.

Car shall be corner weighted in a few weeks prior to Spa, will let you guys know the outcome.
 
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Got round to making up door cards for the fronts.

So I purchased some of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_f...+FOAMALUX+Foam+PVC+1220mm+x+610mm+(4ft+x+2ft) I saw them used on a VLN racer at the Ring so gave me a few ideas.

2 sheets of this was enough to do both sides.



I started by cutting out a card template for the first door card, then used this for the first attempt. It came out well and used this as the main template for the second.
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Straight edge and new Stanley blade needed

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Using a black ball point pen to outline the original template, this leave a depression and makes it a little easier to cut.

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Remove the protective film

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Cut out door handle and door strap, and one finished product ready for fixing to the door

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Checking to make sure everything fits

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Mocked in place using trust worthy Sellotape

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..and in place, all is needed now is to pop rivet them in place, this will be next weeks job ;)

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Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

The car is booked in next week with Mark Fish Motorsports to have a 6 point bolt in Safety Devices (with extra diagonal and harness bar) cage installed and also to have the Geometry set up and corner weighted, this should be ready by the end of the week (Friday).

So car now will be 100% Spa ready for October.
 
  BMW 330ci sp/ 172Cup
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Impressive amount of work gone in to this over quite a short period. Are you heading towards racing in the future?

Also, just watched your 1 lap video with Brands and noticed your using Harry's lap time. I like the look of the overlays. Suppose its got to be worth the money? Are most UK tracks featured?
 

NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Also, just watched your 1 lap video with Brands and noticed your using Harry's lap time. I like the look of the overlays. Suppose its got to be worth the money? Are most UK tracks featured?

I use Harry's laptimer as well and there is literally every track in the world on there!! It's the pro version I got. Definitely worth the money I'd say!!
 
  182 Cup/Mk5 Gti
Re: Namakubi Clio 172 Cup "track project"

Door cards look great! Was looking for that material to do mine. Does it weigh much? What colour you having the cage?
 


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