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Steves Black 197 soon to be boosted!!



  Clio 197
Hello guys and gals.

New to this forum, as im mainly on 197.net mostly but thought it was about time to sign up and start and project thread here.

Picked the car up over a year ago and loved it from the offset, made a few changes like interior LED's and dash strips skinned in carbon nothing major. I did however have a hankering for boost which was the thing i missed from my old evo 8. Therefore it was time to do the megane conversion.

Collected the engine 3 months back for a cheap price of £600 with everything I needed turbo, loom etc. However of course it wasn't staying standard ;) out came the spanners and it was stripped within a week. Everything looked in remarkable condition.

Ive been recently doing some head work, like combustion chamber polishing to prevent the likely hood of knock and smoothing and blending the intake and exhausts and bowls. This has taken over 18 hours work and im still not finished. (Thats serious commitment :lol:)

So thats where im at too at the moment.

Plans for the car:

Lowering springs or coilovers
25mm spacers
Big brake kit
RS skirts and splitter
Carbon badges

Plans for the engine:

Catcam valve springs
Inconel exhaust valves
Finish head work
Manley I beam rods
Cosworth pistons (Keeping standerd compressions ratios)
Helix clutch
ARP head and rod bolts
Hybrid turbo
630cc injectors
Uprated fuel pump and swirl pot
Head re skim

Im sure this list will grow.

Now some pictures:




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  Clio 197
UPDATE: Picked myself up some polishing pads and flapper wheels for my air dremel. I set about polishing the combustion chambers to prevent carbon build up and "knock". If first used 100 grit wet and dry to flatten out all the casting marks from sand casting. This took around an hour for just one combustion chamber. I then moved to a 180 grit flapper wheel and smoothed out all the scratch marks from the previous stage. next was a 240 grit and 300 grit scotch bright wheel. Then finally used a cotton polishing pad with in combination with black then white rouge polish. This gave it a mirror like appearance which should really prevent carbon build up.

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  Clio 197
UPDATE:

Out came the dremel again and it was time to tackle the exhaust ports. They were terrible to start with, pitted, flash marks down the sides, big ridges where the valve seats met the casting. I intended to smooth all of this and blend the bowels. I didn't make the ports bigger as this would have reduced the exiting gas velocity which in theory will give more turbo lag.

To prevent me hitting the valve seats with the dremel I covered them in blue tac, this worked incredibly well and the seats came out unscaved.

Many people grind the valve guides flush with the bowel, however I didn't do this in this case due to the exhaust gas temps which could potentially melt the valve stems. I will grind them flush on the inlet ports due to the low temps.

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Done quite a few things over the last week or so.

First off was a 36K service of the car, this included new plugs, oil, cabin filter, oil filter and brake fluid. Wow what a difference the plugs make, the car feels alive again and pulls so much harder.

While the car was up on the jacks i thought it was about time to replace my rear brake callipers, I had some refurbed ones spare and so now i finally have red calipers front and rear. Next month Ill replace the rear and front discs and fit braided lines.

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They look much better, just never got time to doing my own as Im always busy refurbing everyone elses callipers
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With the car done it was now time to carry on with its new engine
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This time it was time to port the inlet ports. These were far easier the work with than the exhaust ports at the were a lot wider and shallower. I will also get most gains from re shaping and smoothing the inlet ports.


Below is an image of the ports before porting. As you can the see the partition it fairly large and will cause quite a bit of drag on the flowing air. Like the exhaust ports the walls of the port are really rough with cast marks running down the edges. The valve guides are protruding out which is also an area which will cause excess drag on the air flowing round them. My porting attempts will resolve these issues with the stock ports.


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After the first pass with the 60 grit wheel the majority of the shaping is done, the partition has been knife edged to reduce the coefficient of drag on the incoming air. The ridge or hump at the start of the port has also been flattened and blended into the surroundings. The machined channels have also been blended into a smooth curve to aid air flow. The 60 grit wheel has also done a good job at removing all cast marks.

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The next stages was a pass with a 120 grit wheel to further refine the contours and smooth the surface. I then used a scotch bright wheel of 180 grit and then 280 grit to smooth the surface to exceptional finish.

I have left the short radius rough (Cant see this in this view) to cause a tumbling effect on the air to increase velocity around the bend into the valve opening. This turbulence should also help with fuel atomization creating a more efficient burn.

The valve guides have been ground flush with the bowls to also aid air flow. This can be done on the inlet due to the reduced temperatures compared with the exhaust ports where the guides are left untouched to protect the valve stem from the intense heat.

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I hope you guys are enjoying this build thread!!

Next time Ill blend the valve bowls and get the head skimmed then its time to install the new shiny valves
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Another week and some more work done to the engine.

First off was tackling the inlet bowls. I had to get these all exactly the same to keep airflow through all the ports uniformed. I therefore like before put blue tac around each valve seat to protect them should i slip. I then went in again with the 60 grit wheel then 120. I tried to time myself on each port to prevent me over grinding one of the bowls. After this stage I used a 240 grit flapper wheel to further smooth the contours of the bowl.

Before finsishing with the buffing wheels I inspected the bowls with a vernier calliper, they were all within 0.25mm of each other which I don't think is to bad for just a dremel.

Finally using the finishing buffs I finished the bowls in 400 grit as I want low air resistance just before entering the chamber.

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Now with the porting and polishing complete (THANK GOD!!!) its time to get the head cleaned up and skimmed ready for painting. To achieve this i will sand blast the exterior of the head. This means I have to mask off all the machined surfaces and bolts holes. For the combustion chambers I made a aluminum plate to block off this area. Using the head gasket as a template I marked out the bolts holes and drilled them out. Then using 120mm long M10 bolts and nuts I bolted the plate on to the head using the existing head bolt holes (I hope this makes sense
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Over the weekend Ill mask off the other areas using a mix of electrical tape and duct tape. Then I can get it blasted on monday.


I now have to decide the colour scheme of the engine. I was thinking of a gun metal grey for the head and rocker cover with a black intake port and block.

Any ideas will be greatly welcome.

Cheers



Not a huge amount done this weekend.

Saturday I picked up some forged rods from @shakey_hand_man, had the pleasure of looking over his clio and my god its a sight to behold. If mines half as good as that ill be happy.

Right back onto the engine re-build I reassembled the top end of the engine and masked all the machined surfaces off with special tape. This will allow me to blast the exterior giving me a good surface ready for paint. Ill do this tomorrow at work then I should be able to remove the tape and wash the head in hot soapy water to remove any foreign particles. Then ready for paint and reassembly.

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Yet another update!

After masking up all the head shown in the previous post I sand blasted it to remove any dirt or contaminants. Wow what a difference this made, looks half decent for once. The sand blasted surface is also a very good surface for paint to stick to.

There is a drawback to blasting however, it leaves tiny particles of sand inside the head and in some of the galleries. If this was left in the engine it would almost certainly cause engine failure. This is why I thoroughly cleaned out the head and covers in hot soapy water followed by a jet washing, focusing on all the crevices and water/oil galleries. I repeated this process a further 3 times to make sure.

Once all clean it was time for masking and painting. I used frog tape for this. I then used e tech alloy paint (High temp isnt needed as the rocker cover only reaches around 120C) First primed with self etch primer, left this for 24 hours, followed by top coat and another 24 hours and then 4 coats of lacquer. Did the breather cover in gloss black and the rocker cover in anthracite. Good combo i reckon
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  Clio 197
Another weekend and another quick update on the progress. The good news is the head is almost complete and ready for installation of the valves. I took the head to work to skim it on monday. First off I set the block onto a surface plate and used a DTI gauge to check for warping and it was fine, only 0.003mm variation. Now was to get the mill set up and perfectly leveled to the mills tool head. I used a DTI gauge for this process as well. Now for the clamping down of the head to the bed, I used T bolts and bridge clamps to secure it.

Now with the DTI gauge fitted to the mill tool stock, I checked the cylinder head was flat to within 0.001mm. Using a tungsten carbide fly cutter I made a three passes along the head and took off 0.3mm finished to a mirror finish, ready for an MLS gasket.

(I hope you understood the process, plenty of youtube videos if you didn't)

The only other thing I did this week was spray the oil cap satin black to help with the stealth look
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looks ace IMO

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A quick pic of the oil cap

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UPDATE:

A lot has happened this week on the engine. First off was removing the piston squirters so the bores can be honed. These proved to be a right pain in the arse, mole grips just didnt grip enough to remove them. After some advice on here I started by drilling a 6.8mm dia hole into the top of the squirter, I followed this by tapping them with an m8 x 1.2mm tap, and using a 1/4 inch extension on top of the tap, this gave me enough room to rotate it to cut the thread. Once the holes had been threaded I screwed a slide hammer into the squirter and with a few knocks, hey presto they came out
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Now with this taken care of the block is ready for hot bathing, honing and pressure testing next week.

I also made up a crank puller tool to finally get the crank pulley off and gave the lifters a good clean to get there "springness" back, then left the in clean oil ready for re-assembly.

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With all the block work done it was back on to the cylinder head and valve lapping. I managed to get all the inlet valves lapped in. Im using the oem inlet valves as I dont think the forged ones are worth it due reduced rev limit on the megane engine. I am however waiting on some supertech inconel exhaust valves, the reason for this is I think the increased heat from the increased power could have an effect on oem exhaust valves.

With the lapping I used a course compound for most the work, then used a fine compound for refining the edge of the valve.


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And now some engine p**n
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Haven't updated this in a while so here goes.

Ive got all the loom checked for continuity and wrapped back up. There were a few frayed wires that needed repairing.

I ordered some cat cam valve springs and new gasket set. Installed these with little problems, making sure I kept the keepers and retainers in the same places as they were before. Once these were in, I poured some petrol into the inlets and outlet ports and checked for leaks. In two of the exhaust ports there was a slight weep at around 30 mins in. I subsequently took them out cleaned them up and lightly lapped again. This has seemed to solve this. The valves will seal further after initial start up anyway.


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A few weeks back I also purchased a little treat for the car
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ever since owning the car Ive wanted recaros, this opportunity arose when mr @smoggy mark had some for sale. So it was a long drive (8 hour round trip) to pick them up.

They took a bit of getting used to due to them sitting slightly higher than standard seats but now I absolutely love them! Really make the inside a nicer place to be with the leather retrim :)

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Cheers guys!



Haven't been on here in a while with Xmas and such.

First thing is I decided to take the plunge and install nitrided inlet valves as it was just playing on my mind, last thing i want is a valve breaking and destroying the engine and over a grand's worth of con rod, piston and crankshaft and the whole point of this build is "Reliable Power".

When they arrived they only sent 7 for some reason
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hopefully the 8th one will arrive this week. They were installed and inspected easily, all within spec and leak free which is fine. The head will now be put in storage once the last valve arrives until the block is finished.

While I was waiting for the valves I had a tinker with the tiny Td04l 14t turbo, while I was going to just strip it for something to do and then sell it on with new bearings etc, and then just buy a hybrid from rs tuning. I have decided to just build my own improved version, since the ones ktec and that sell are ludicrous price for the man hours in them.

I am going to make a td04hl 19t with help from "Turbo dynamics" in Christchurch as they'll be building the CHRA and do all the balancing. Ill machine all the compressor and turbine housing myself as I am a machinist by trade, it should be easy. The only thing Ive had to do it saw the inlet pipe off the compressor housing in order to fit in my lathe, Ill then weld it on after (This is what ktec do I believe). I hope this upgrade should produce 320hp without overboosting. Im sure ill knock up a tubular manifold and get a garret in the future but this will do for now.

Today however I tried solve the knocking noise in the rack, checked all swivel joints and replaced all inner and outer track rods as they had play in them anyway on the MOT last year. But the knocking still happens, looks like a new rack when i change out the engine, ill try and get a 200 one for the quicker turning.

Also sorted out the airbag light from fitting the recaros, soldered some pins onto a 3.3 ohm resistor and simply inserted it into the plug and this did the trick.

Did a quick enhancement detail on the steed and the mothers s2000 (Damn I love these cars) last weekend, honda paint is so soft compared to renault diamond hard bloody paint!

One last thing, toying with idea of getting my recaro backs done in gloss black, whats your opinions?

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Quick update:

The missing inlet valve showed up eventually, so that's been installed and the heads been put into storage. At work this week I've started to make up a jig in order for me to hold the compressor housing in a lathe. This week I'll weld flanges onto the jig that bolt into the actuator holes. Here it is at the moment.

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Evening all

Ive put the turbo on the side at the moment due to saving up for parts and a mountain of college work i have to complete for my HND. Started work on inlet manifold of the megane 225 engine. I used engineers blue to marked where the inlet lines up with the head ports, and wow! what a difference in sizes. About 5mm smaller in the width and 3mm in the height. This is shown in the photos. I grabbed my dremel again and went back to the process of grinding, sanding and buffing (oh joy :eek: ) Ive finished two of the ports so far which took around 5 hours. Ill finish the other two when i find time, hopefully next week end fingers crossed. Ill also open out the throttle body and plenum of the intake. This should hopefully result in some decent gains.

With the engine build on the side line I decided to give the interior a spruce up from that god awful silver. I went to halfords and picked up some black metallic paint the same as my cars colour. Gave 4 coats of primer, 4 colour and 5 lacquer. Then wet sanded with 2000 grit wet and dry and buffed out to get that mirror finish. I put a black renault sport sticker on the long dash trim for a subtle but stealth looking addition.

Next time ill hopefully get the inlet done and maybe make up a custom fuel rail done for the after market fuel pump ill put in the car.

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First off I managed to finish all the porting on the inlet manifold which took an absolute age, but I always knew it would with 5mm to take off over the width of the port. Im really happy with it and the continuity between ports is all with 0.25mm which aint bad for a dremel I dont think
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Ill get it painted some time using the same colour I sprayed the rocker cover in.

With that done I turned my attention to the fuel rail. This is because with a uprated inline fuel pump Ill need to run a regulator and return line, but with the oem rail being plastic I am unable to get another secure line into it. To make one I first got hold of some 18mm dia solid stainless round bar and turned up some injector fittings. I cut these at 25mm long and with a 13.5mm reamed hole through the centre. Then I used a dividing head on a milling machine with an 18mm end mill cutter to dish out the bottom of the to fit the 18mm stainless tube Im using for the rail. The holes were then drilled in the tube at 89mm centres. Using the silver solder I brazed these fittings onto the tube along with an AN6 fitting for the return line. I still need to figure out the position of the feed line which will be soldered on along with some support brackets. But here is how it looks so far.

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Difference between the stock manifold and my ported one.


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As I had today off I decided to test fit my fuel rail with the manifold, head, block and throttle, then I could see where I am going to drill the hole for the feed line. Had a few issues, mainly being I forgot about the dipstick bracket being located right at the end of the fuel rail where I had my return line. To remedy this I ground off the welds on the bracket, I then ground part of the inlet manifold off so I could swivel the bracket round 60 degrees, the new position was marked with a pen and the bracket was cut to suit. Ill weld it all together when im back at work on tuesday. Feed line should be fine where it is in the picture, I would like it to run perfectly parrallel with the rail but unfortunately this isn't possible due to the throttle body being in the way, hey ho just my perfectionist side coming out there lol. I still need to paint the manifold and some of the brackets.

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You can see in this photo just how tight it is by the throttle body, you can also see where I have ground off the bracket and repositioned it so it doesn't foul on the fuel rail return.

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I do love a bit of braided fuel hose ;D will looks loads better when manifold is painted though


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Had a little time over the weekend to finally finish my fuel rail. I soldered a plug into the end along with the feed an6 fitting into the same end opposite injector number 1. The support brackets made out of 5mm stainless were also soldered in position The rail was then buffed with a scotch bright pad. I also at the same time soldered the repositioned bracket onto the dipstick.

Now the rail was complete it was time to give the inlet manifold and dip stick a lick of paint, i decided to paint it the same colour as my rocker cover which was a athracite colour. This was then lacquered to create a nice shine.

The fuel line around the manifold could then be finalised. I mentioned before that I didnt like how the braided line didnt go parralell with the rail, i solved this problem by using 2 x 45 degree fittings along with a an6 union, the made it far neater and satisfied my OCD. The pics will show this in more detail.

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Cheers


Right havent kept this updated so it needs to be done, so here goes.

First thing on the list was some car maintanence. My alloys were in a bad way, and after a recent kerbing it was time to tackle them over a weekend. Gave them a thorough wash and then sanded with 400 grit paper to key the surface. They were then primed and the base coat (Black) was laid on. Left this for 24 hours and then gave 3 coats of 2k lacquer. I will wet sand them and buff out but Ill leave them a month first for the paint to fully gas off.

While the car was on stands I gave the car a good surface, Oil, brake fluid and coolant was changed followed by a good brake calliper clean. I can say coolant was the biggest pain, as there is no drain plug. I got round this by pulling off the engine block return hose to drain the radiator. The rad was then flushed through with water. The hose was then connected and the radiator filled back up with just water. I turned on the engine and waited for it to heat up so the thermostat would open, this gave the block a good flush out. The coolant was then drained again and refilled using 50/50 water to anti freeze.

Right now the engine/conversion. Havent done much but I did manage to clean up the cam pulleys and give them a lick of paint to prevent oxidisation. I also picked up a milltek non res exhaust from a fellow member on here. It did need rewelding on one joint but this isnt a problem. This weekend however I set my attention on getting the tailpipes to a chrome like shine. They cam up really well using autosol and my DA with an old pad.

The final thing was to test the fuel rail, I did this by assembling the fuel rail with the injectors and then bolting it to the inlet manifold. The fuel lines were then mocked up and an 8mm piece of tube inserted into the fuel hose with a hose clip to secure it. This was then set up on a test rig at my work and tested to 150 psi, and hey presto no leaks luckily.

Also got a new reg, which kind of spells my surname
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Another update.

Unfortunatly my company has been put on short time hours so not much spare cash to plough into this engine build. Therefore I have decided to concentrate on the cheaper and more finicky jobs of the build to make it look pretty.

First I managed to pick up a second hand non res milltek which I fitted in a few hours, sounds epic and should go well when I put the meg engine in, as Ill be using milltek down pipe and sports cat so it should make fabricating the exhaust connection a bit easier.

Managed also to give a quick detail of the car before PFC, great turnout this year and the weather was hot and sunny which was a bonus too. All in all a fun day with plenty of tasty motors. I hope mine will be a bit more of a headd turner next year when its boosted.

Speaking of cheap things to do on the engine I decided to strip the alternator and check for functionality. Ill also paint this the same gun metal grey colour the rocker cover is sprayed in. This will look great, as the alternator is normally left bear aluminium due to how much of a pain in the arse it is to paint safely without damaging it.

Plans for next update is finish alternator and machine out the turbo housing for the 20T wheel that is due to arrive this week. Also picked up some brand new 630cc injectors for £90 today which is a bit of a bonus.

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Some little updates:

First and the most exciting thing is the 20T compressor wheel has arrived and it was certainly worth the wait. Beautiful piece of engineering. The 20T wheel is around 10mm larger on the inducer and exducer over the standard 14T wheel in a meganes turbo. should make for good gains and perform better than any hrbid turbos currently on the market, a true bolt on option. In the next few weeks ill hopefully machine the compressor housing to suit, making the custom tooling will be the tricky part tbh.

My injectors also arrived, tried to mock them up to my fuel rail and there was some slight fitment issues. These injectors don't go as far inside the fuel rail as the standard ones did, so the rail mounts had to be spaced out backwards and the holes opened up. Not perfect but I really cant be bothered to make up new rail brackets.

To keep me occupied in the week I carried on with the alternator. First checked the bridge rectifier was working. This is done by checking that the diodes operate at the correct threshold voltage att 0.5V. Luckily they had survived this alternators hard life so dont need to be replaced. I took the casings to work and sand blasted them followed by a lick of paint, they look brand new now and match my engine now. The coil windings were cleaned up and installed back in the casings. Next week Ill concentrate on the iron core of the alternator and give the spindle a clean up on the lathe with some emery cloth.

Some pictures as usual.

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PDATE:

With the alternator stripped I cleaned up the copper bushings on the lathe by taking a slight with a facing off tool, this got the bushings square, as they had got very concave from the contact with the brushes. With the surface flat the brushes will make a far better contact. Bearings should arrive this week so I can change them and also give the iron core a coat of hammer blow paint to protect it from corrosion.

Now onto the turbo, this week I managed to get the turbo CHRA machined to the new 20T wheel. I first set it in a four jaw chuck (This lets you accurately centre the component as the jaws are adjusted independently, this is needed as a turbo is fairly high tolerance), then using a DTI gauge to check it was centered within 0.01mm in the x and y axis. I measured the CHRA original size and then measuring the old compressor wheel, the size of the wheel was 52mm inducer and 53mm on the CHRA, giving me 1mm clearance. Therefore when modifying the CHRA Ill give a 1mm clearance too, so with the 58mm diameter on the new wheel, this gives me a diameter to machine the CHRA to 59mm. Using a boring bar I machined out the CHRA to the worked out diameter, didn't need to use coolant as cast iron is self lubricating due to its high graphite content. Now finally using a 45 degree chamfer tool I cut a 1 x 45 degree chamfer, to match the new 20T wheel.

The new wheel fits nicely now as you can see from the photos.


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UPDATE:

A fair bit has happened since my last post, Ill start with the bit most people wont be interested in, the alternator. I first gave the iron core a coat of anti corrosion paint to tidy it up really as i cant be dealing with rusty parts on my build. I then took the rectifier module and pulley wheel and gave them a blast with the sand blaster to remove all the crud and corrosion, I followed this by painting them the same metallic blue that the cam pulleys were painted in, to make the alternator look a little less boring
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turned out rather well i think.just needs re assembling now and the bearings to be replaced.

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To make the rocker cover look that little bit better, i had all the bolts zinc plated which makes them almost chrome looking. This should also protect the bolts from rust, which would look rubbish, especially with all the work that's gone into this project.

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Over the last few weeks one of my side lights had blown and it was time to replace, a job that I had been putting off as I dont have the smallest of hands
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I therefore made the decision to change them to bright white LED bulbs and at the same time change all the indicators to Osram Diadem. I must say this has really modernized the front end. These LED's are so bright! makes my projector headlights kind of pointless now
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Right onto the most anticipated bit and how my turbo is going. This week I received the 9 blade HL turbine wheel from ARD tuning again, lovely bit of kit and really well made, cant recommend this company enough for td04 parts. This turbine is slightly larger than the L wheel and should make for better spooling.

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In order to accurately measure the rotating contour on the compressor and turbine wheel I used a method known as shadow graphing. This is done by projecting the objects profile onto a piece of paper and then tracing the outline. I setup a basic jig with my phone light, compressor wheel mounted in a drill and the a piece of card as the back drop. two points were marked on the piece on the card at 94mm apart (2 x the diameter of the inducer) this gave me a reference point to line the shadow up with to give me a shadow double the size of the actual compressor wheel. The lights were turned off and the drill was turned on, the outline was then traced.

Using a radius gauge to curve was determined to be a 20mm radius, but remember this is a 1:2 scale, so the actual radius I have to make a tool to is 10mm. Proper engineering that
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I managed tonight to machine a practice turbo housing. I secured a 80mm dia alumium bar in the four jaw chuck and then bored out a hole to 47.7mm, this allowed me 0.7mm clearance. I also grinded up a 10mm radius tool and cut the contour into the edge of the hole. With a bit of light sanding and polishing its pretty much perfect, this gives me much more confidence in machining the actual turbo compressor housing. some changes have to be made to radius tool to get it cutting more efficiently. But anyway pretty successful evening!

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Thanks!


UPDATE:

Havent had much time to update this thread so here goes. First of as MOT time approaches my rear discs desperately needed replacing, did this over the weekend, gave the callipers a good clean as well. slight problem with the handbrake now though, Im sure it just needs adjusting, no problem to do. the brand new discs make the rear end look so much better, old ones were beyond rusty.

Now onto the engine build, the turbo has again taken a back seat at the moment while the CHRA is out for balancing. I did in the meanwhile purchase another throttle body as the old one was damaged. This was cleaned thoroughly with degreaser and then shot blasted, using the same paint as the rest of the engine is painted, I gave a few coats with 3 coats of lacquer. The pivot points of the throttle body was then oiled with ZX1. The top cap of the throttle body was painted metallic blue, this matches in with the AN fittings nicely.

I was looking at the oil filler cap and thought it needed brightening up a bit and to make it more individual to the car. On the oil cap there is three grooves, I therefore created a french flag with this. Using an airbrush and thin masking tape I filled in this slots with the colours of the french flag. The oil cap was then given 3 coats of lacquer. Im really pleased with this and itb was pretty much free, a win win then
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Next time Ill hopefully should have the CHRA back from balancing and have the compressor housing machined at last
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Pics as usual:

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UPDATE:

Not any photos this time Im afraid but thought Id keep this updated none the less.

The engine build has taken a back foot in the past month. Im still mastering getting the turbo housing machined, small tweaks to the tool were made.

In the mean while Ive been sorting out my nans garage which has a lot of wood working machines in and odds and ends, once it is sorted however it will be the ideal place to transplant the engine into my clio, there is a pit and everything. Im nearly there and should be sorted soon. Next month Ill order all the bits for to finish my engine, pistons, clutch etc.

Differing from many peoples Meg'd clios, I will be using my clio box simply because I love how short it is and it will improve acceleration. The problem is however, many of us know that the box is made of cheese and has problems even at a clio's low torque levels, when you add 200 ft ib it could cause problems. Ive got a donour box in the meanwhile and will be stripping it down to the bear running gear, this will then be sent out for cryogenic freezing and shot peening to improve strength and reduce fatique stress by up to 40%. The box will then be sent out to be rebuilt with the newer style synchros and to fit a quaife atb diff. Running this box will also mean I can use the CAE short shifter, looks a great bit of kit!



UPDATE:

Bit of a more interesting update this time with pictures
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On thursday I made a 4 hour trip to pick up a gearbox that needed a rebuild because of crunching in 3rd gear. The plan is to strip and rebuild this box with all new synchros, bearings and seals along with cryogenically freezing followed by shot peening all the shafts and gears. The synchros in 3rd and 4th will be replaced with updated iron ones (I think they are iron or steel) these will also be just cryogenically frozen to improve strength.

On friday I began about setting out to strip the box down to base compoenents and shafts etc, was relatively simple, had one hiccup that the shafts became stuck in the wrong half of the box, with a chat with Mr @foxspeed it turned out they just needed a little tap to free them. Over the weekend I have removed various bearings and discovered a huge input shaft bearing failure, which could also be another week spot in these engines? Anyway I'm off to Greece for a week so wont be abe to make any progress (I wish the engine would fit in mt suitcase
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) anyway some more pictures and I hope to have this box completely stripped and ready for treatment and re assembly by beginning of next month. There will also be more progress on the engine due to a massive parts order happening when i get back off holiday, then the car will come off the road in november ready for its transformation, cant wait!

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Thanks guys.




UPDATE:

Not to much progress as Ive been on holiday and had callipers to do. I have managed to completely strip the output shaft of the gearbox, this was done by using a bearing puller/splitter to remove the end tapered roller bearings, with these off I took the shaft to work and used the 20 ton press to press the gears off of the shaft, it was then disassembled and laid out in order and then thoroughly cleaned with solvent degreasers. The input shaft is proving a bit more of an arse to disassemble, there is a nut on one end that is screwed onto the shaft to hold the bearings on, problem is that its bloody tight and holding it securely is proving a pain. i did try it in a lathe 4 jaw chuck but it still would turn. I plan on getting an old 197 clutch and using the spline to hold the shaft securely while I undo the nut. Also I have started cleaning the cases and will shot blast the outside this week and then remove all the bearing races and seals and then give it a lick of paint. Anyway im sure ill have more to show you next time :)

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Thanks guys



Hello again guys

Not to much to update on again. But first things first Ive just been enjoying the clio this week, finally cleaned it in over a month and went for a meet up at Eurospec for a dyno day. It was really a great day and really glad how much my clio made, 193.2HP and a reasonably straight curve, these rollers are also known as the "heart break" rollers and normally read lower than others, so there is a possibility that its making a wee bit more. It will be hopefully a good 150HP more than this by next time its on the dyno
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Anyway back to the build, and to my relief I have finally undone the nut on the end of the input shaft. I couldnt find a clutch plate for love nor money to help me hold shaft so I could undo the nut. Therefore I had to make an aluminum collet in order to hold on the spline so I could get a breaker bar and get it undone, man it was tight! Also managed to remove all the bearing races and seals from the bell housing side of the casing, I then shot blasted the outside ready for paint. The casing was then cleaned 3 times in hot soapy water to remove all dirt and sand.

All the seals, synchros and bearings are being delivered this week so I can then get the bearing races installed and also paint the casings.

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UPDATE:

Quite of bit of progress this week. First I managed to disassemble the input shaft, was quite simple once the nut was removed. The bearing was pressed off and then the components were laid out in order meticulously like i did on the input shaft. I then cleaned the gears with engine degreaser and then packed them away ready to be sent out for treatment.

I also cleaned up the other half of the casing by first shot blasting the outside and then thoroughly cleaning the inside with hot soapy water and degreaser. Removed the bearing race where the diff sits, the other bearing race will need a bead of weld running on the inside of it, once this is done, the weld pulls the bearing race inwards and it should just fall out :)

I had the Friday off so took the opportunity to take the turbo CHRa down the turbo dynamics for rebuilding and balancing, when i get it back Ill be ready to machine the housings to suit.

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TURBO TIME!

Right got some exciting news hopefully on the turbo side of my build. sent my CHRA off to Turbo Dynamics to get it balanced. It came back today and looks great, they have vapour blasted the core and rebuilt with new bearings and balanced. This therefore enables me to finally start machine the housings to suit. Should get the compressor cover done this weekend. I also made up a fixture to be able to mount the hot side of the turbo in the lathe, it needs some counterweighting to reduce vibration as it is off centre turning.

Gearbox parts are being sent off next weekend for shot peening and superfinishing. Also getting a quiafe atb diff ordered this weekend which should be here by next week.

There was one bearing race that wouldnt budge inside the casing and there was no way of pulling it out. To get it out I welded a bead of weld on the inside of the race. Once it cools the weld pulls in out the bearing race, effectively shrinking it. It just fell out after. I gave both casings a good wash again and dried them with an airline. They will be painted once Ive installed new bearing races.

Finnally Ive sent off all the bolts for the engine and gearbox for zinc plating, they will be nice and shiny when they come back
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Anyway thanks for reading as always, will update on the turbo on Sunday.

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As promised there are updates with the turbo. Managed to set it and clock the turbo housing in the lathe to within 0.01mm. Ive bored it out to size of 47.3mm diameter (Leaving me 0.3mm for sanding and blending) Surface finish was very good and I took a 0.2mm final cut to achieve this. Ill contour to radius tomorrow and then blend with emery cloth.

Also managed to paint the gearbox housings the same gunmetal colour the rocker cover is painted in.

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A short video link:

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Right finally managed to radius the compressor cover to match the billet 20t wheel. First cut the radius and then contoured and blended it with sand paper. I used engineers fluid to check whether the wheel was contacting anywhere. All in all a success so far.
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Did some final contouring today and then polished the surface.


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UPDATE:

I havent updated this in a while due to being very busy with the engine and getting ready for the conversion.

First on my list was to get the turbo finished and get the hot side machined for the larger HL turbine wheel. The was done the same as the compressor was machined. The radius was measured and was 7mm, a tool was then made up. The housing was fixed into a 4 jaw lathe chuck with the fixture Ive made. It was then "clocked" to ensure the centre of the hole was lined up with the centre of rotation of the lathe within 0.01mm. The hole was then opened up to 46.9mm allowing 1.2mm total clearance. The inducer hole was then machined to 52.4mm. Now using the radius tool I slowly cut the contour, much harder this time than on the compressor housing due to the turbine housing being made out of much harder cast iron. Once the desired contour was achieved it was blended with sand paper like before.

The turbo is now pretty much done, just need to weld the inlet pipe on, spray it black and assemble it.

I had a big parts order also this week, Ive ordered an 60mm core intercooler, quaife ATB LSD, forge boost pipes, scorpion 3 inch downpipe, milltek centre section, engine service parts, ARP head stud kit, helix stage 3 clutch and cover and a billet lightened flywheel. Ill also be ordering all the fuel system next week.

One thing that has been playing on my mind is the hassle of sending my block out for machining and getting all the clearances right then assebling it to correct spec. I could do it but I dont really have the time considering the car is coming off the road at the end of the month. Therefore Ive sent the block off for assembly at engine dynamics. The specs will be as following:

Kings racing bearings
ZRP h beam rods
wossner pistons
ARP cap bolts
New oil pump
New oil squirters
Blueprinted and balanced crank.

Should hopefully get it back in 2-3 weeks. Then I can assemble the whole engine
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Finally Ive now installed all the bearings and seals into the gearbox casings, just need to gearbox internals to arrive back from shot peening and I can finish the gearbox.

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UPDATE:

Right Turbo is now finished! On Monday I welded the outlet pipe back on the compressor housing and painted it in high temperature black paint. The turbo was then assembled, the Actuator was painted in the same gun metal colour the rocker cover is in. Really pleased with how it looks, it spins freely and should produce around 2 BAR boost t around 380hp with supporting mods.

Also Ive oredered the fuel system, Ive gone with a fuel labs swirl pot, bosch 044 pump and sytec regulator, with all teflon braided lines and torques compression fittings. They should have been here wednesday but Demon Tweeks are being a pain :/ Also had some DEI titanium heat wrap coming so I can wrap the downpipe to keep temps down a little.

Gearbox parts will be here next week, cant wait to get the box assembled!

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Thanks as always
 

LiamR172

Scotland - NW
ClioSport Area Rep
Seen a lot of this on Facebook... Some amount of work and great attention to detail.
Be good to see it finished :)
 
  182
wow! Love your attention to detail. This is an impressive build and your car will be awesome once complete.

Welcome to the forum!
 

Gus

ClioSport Moderator
  182Turbo,DCi90
Absolutely fantastic work :up:
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Absolutely love the machine work on this
 

-Simon

ClioSport Club Member
  172-E92 M3-ZT V8
What a write up!! Fascinating read so far, can't wait to see it all finished. Love what you've done with the Meg engine and the attention to detail is stunning. Would love to have the skill you do mate.
 
  Clio 197
What a write up!! Fascinating read so far, can't wait to see it all finished. Love what you've done with the Meg engine and the attention to detail is stunning. Would love to have the skill you do mate.

Thanks mate :) there is always a chance to learn. I hadn't even modified a car before this one as I had a micra for a first car so wasn't much point lol
 
  Clio 197
What kind of power will you be aiming for with the clio?

Any other plans for it exterior wise?

Around the 350 mark I reckon. Then I'll be putting cams in next year and then should be 380/390 maybe.

Exterior will come after engine is done, probs get bilstein coilovers, porsche 6 pot brembos and some aero work ie carbon splitter, canards. Not sure yet though. Debating a cage as well
 
  Clio 197
UPDATE:

Right the car is off the road! Insurance ran out on Saturday, had a great blast out for my last NA drive in the clio, it was then parked up and is looking very sorry for itself. Today I began stripping out the interior so I can access the fuel pump sender easily and do a nice fuel system boot install. Next problem is how I go about getting the sender out so I can plumb a return line in, do I cut the hole bigger but this is pretty dodgy as sparks and fuel don't normally mix
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this then leaves me with the option of having to bite the bullet and drop the tank out, a ball ache of a job without a ramp. Decisions, decisions....

Anyway this is all stuff that can be sorted later.

With all the exhaust system bought i.e downpipe and megane centre section I began wrapping the downpipe in DEI titanium heat wrap. If i do say so myself it didnt turn out too bad for a first go, the missus was on hand to do the zip ties up while I held the wrap tight
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hopefully this will keep temps down. Also shot blasted the exhaust manifold and sprayed in very high temp DEI paint.

I pick the engine block up Tuesday from Engine Dynamics, then Ill get the engine built and then Ill take the engine out of the clio and while thats out Ill polybush the front and sort out suspension and fix the knocking steering rack. Lots to do..

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Thanks as always.
 

MarcB

ClioSport Club Member
  Too Many
@StephenVenning

Your work is outstanding buddy, Shocked you have enough time to do this with the caliper refurbishments.

Can i also ask what the paint / Colour was that you used on the rocker cover ?
 
  Clio 197
@StephenVenning

Your work is outstanding buddy, Shocked you have enough time to do this with the caliper refurbishments.

Can i also ask what the paint / Colour was that you used on the rocker cover ?

Haha :lol: Ive stopped them at the moment to concentrate on the build. I just used E-tech gun metal alloy paint for the rocker cover. It seems pretty tough when lacquered and should hold up to the heat.
 
  HBT 172 Cup
Now this is my kind of project! Amazing attention to detail you are obviously a true engineer with a passion!
Would you make up fuel rail / other bits of custom fabrication on the side for people like myself?
 
  Clio 197
Now this is my kind of project! Amazing attention to detail you are obviously a true engineer with a passion!
Would you make up fuel rail / other bits of custom fabrication on the side for people like myself?

Cheers mate,
I would maybe after this project, most of my spare time is ever spent doing the car or studying for exams. Id have to perfect the design as well. I had to modify the dipstick and other bits to get the fuel lines to fit.
 
  Clio 197
Little update today.

Picked my block up from Engine Dynamics today, looks great and could hardly recognize it
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Its been machined to 83mm bore to suit wossner forged pistons coupled with ZRP rods. ARP stud kits used throughout with Kings racing bearings and new oil squirters. This week Ill start finishing the engine by bolting on the head and then finish all the auxiliaries.

Gearbox parts will finally be back from shot peening after a short delay next week, along with my Helix Paddle Clutch kit, At this rate the conversion should commence close to the Xmas period.

I'm pretty excited now
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Thanks again.
 
  225 powered mk2
Awesome build thread, great attention to detail, and that fuel rail is a master piece! I could never find a decent fuel rail so I had to stick with the standard one! will be watching this thread :)
 
  Clio 197
UPDATE:

This week I have spent time getting the engine pretty much assembled. I installed a 1.6mm MLS head gasket to compensate for the 0.3mm taken off the cylinder head. The ARP head studs were wound in hand tight into the block. The cylinder head was then given another clean and placed onto the engine block. ARP moly lube was then applied to the studs, washers and nuts, these were then torqued down to 105 ft ib in three equal steps of 35 ib ft. It was then left 30 mins before final torquing to 105 ft ib.

The water pump was installed and bolts tightened to 17Nm, then tip-ex applied to the bolt to show it has been torqued up. The thermostat housing was installed in the same manner but torqued to 12Nm according with the workshop manual. The uprated timing belt tensioners were installed and the fixed tensioner pulley was torqued to 50Nm.

This week I should finish the engine bar getting it timed up. The only thing holding the build back is the fact I'm still waiting on some Max tuff assembly lube, once this arrives I can install the camshafts and rocker cover.

The engine is looking rather tasty now
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Thanks
 
  Clio 197
UPDATE:

Hello guys

Been a busy week on the engine build. Ive first managed to install the cams and bolt down the rocker cover, I used Tuff Purple assembly lube on all the rockers, cam lobes and journals. A layer of rhodorseal was applied to the rocker cover mating surfaces and was bolted down to a torque of 12Nm in accordance with the user manual.

The cam seals were now installed. The surfaces were cleaned thouroughly and assembly lube applied to the inside of the seal. They were then pressed into the cylinder head recesses until they stopped. Both cams turn over easily and all the valves open.

Next up was to bolt on the breather cover but when tightening down the bolts they chipped the paint really badly so Ill have to repaint them with stronger paint I thank, strange as the rocker cover was fine.

The turbo and associated oil and coolant lines were now bolted on along with the down pipe just to check alignment of everything. With it at this stage I couldn't resist bolting on the inlet manifold and boost pipes just to see how it will look in the car, looks so good, definite improvement over the current engine bay.

Also turned my attention to the fuel sender access hole today, a few weeks back I bought a air nibbler but just never got the chance to cut the hole bigger. I put down a wet rag over the sender and had a fire extinguisher on stand by
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I cut the rough hole out with the nibbler, then followed up with a half round file to neaten up the edges. Tomorrow Ill neaten the edges with rubber edging trim. Then in the week Ill make up a new panel to cover the larger hole.

Also next week Ill hopefully finish the engine and start rebuilding the gearbox. Then its conversion time
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Thanks as always :)
 

NorthloopCup

ClioSport Moderator
When I painted my rocker cover I put some m6 bolts with washers in the rocker cover where the bolts pass through. That way when it was painted and lacquered where the original flanged bolts sit, there was no paint. That way there's no chipping the paint either. :up:
 

dann2707

ClioSport Club Member
This is incredible!

Question though as I'm confused, on the before and after of the head. Why do the bores look a lot larger on the dirty before pic compared to the afters? That's not even possible if it's having machine work right
 
  Clio 197
This is incredible!

Question though as I'm confused, on the before and after of the head. Why do the bores look a lot larger on the dirty before pic compared to the afters? That's not even possible if it's having machine work right

It isn't bigger, it's just where the soot/dirt has gathered in the shape of the head gasket.

Thanks for the kind words mate.
 


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