The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy

[SharkyUK]

I really hope you get the enjoyment you truly deserve out of this car once its complete .

I went through a similar story on a smaller scale years ago with a escort cosworth , it was away for over a year getting work done including some new developments. I had the car back and a few small niggly faults were enough to push me over the edge and I broke the car a few months later. Next time around with my second escos I went for a tried and tested method , car was off the road for under a month and had hassle free fun out of it.

Me too mate! Sorry to hear of your woes but glad you were able to sort it. I'm not clued up enough to tackle it myself hence relying on others. Mind you, I could have taught myself by now...

???

So... what's the new car? [emoji16]

 

[Chris_Beer]

In summary and in less than 50 words...

What spec is the car going to be and when

Please also write it in size 72 or above font so it is clear what the hell is going on lol. Maybe one photo too

 

[SharkyUK]

In summary and in less than 50 words...

What spec is the car going to be and when

Please also write it in size 72 or above font so it is clear what the hell is going on lol. Maybe one photo too

? Less than 50 words could be difficult... as could the photo! One sec...

What is it?
Renaultsport Clio 182 Trophy - Turbocharged (high boost)

What is the spec?
As follows:

Block and Bottom End

• Standard Renault F4R cylinder block (bored)
• Block machined for turbo oil drain
• Cylinder block skimmed (minimum removed)
• Block machined for tagged bearings
• Block line honed
• Block chemically dipped
• Block oil galleries cleaned
• Block painted
• Sump and front cover blasted to clean outer surface
• M12 x 1.5mm boss welded to sump for temperature sensor
• Arrow H-section con rods with ARP 2000 rods bolts
• CP pistons giving a compression ratio of 8.2:1
• King "Race Series" main bearings (two sets used to give full grooved main bearings, standard is half grooved)
• King "Race Series" big end tagged bearings
• ARP flywheel bolts
• ARP main cap studs
• Oil galleries cleaned
• Oil jets replaced
• Oil gallery to head restrictor fitted
• Dephaser bolt central oil gallery blanked (welded)
• Crank balanced

Head and Inlet Manifold

• Fully rebuilt with valve seats cut, valves lapped and new stem seals
• Standard Renault Megane cylinder head casting with no dephaser
• Head casting drilled and tapped for timing belt idler pulley mount
• Head skimmed (minimum removed)
• ARP head studs
• Clio 197 inlet manifold lower section welded, machined to obtain a better port match (not perfect but a vast improvement. - Welded as casting was not thick enough in area which needed machining)
• Head fitted using Renault head gasket

Valvetrain

• Clio 172/182 exhaust cam and modified inlet cam (shortened and oil gallery blanked)
• Standard Megane cam shaft pulleys (inlet pulley drilled for larger dephaser bolt)
• Supertec inlet and exhaust valves
• Supertec uprated valve springs

Other

• Genuine water pump fitted
• TTV alloy auxiliary crank pulley and water pump pulley fitted
• Genuine timing belt kit fitted
• Engine timed to original timing figures/marks
• Short motor assembled with genuine Renault gaskets and seals
• AN-8 steel union dowty washer and locking ring fitted
• Custom TTV billet flywheel (as this is for turbo application it's a heavier than normal Clio 172/182 billet flywheel)
• New genuine oil pump oil strainer pick de-shrouded, pressure relief valve shimmed, oil pump lid to pump rotors clearance reduced
• MaxxECU
• AIM MXL Strada digital dash
• Custom loom, sensor array, etc. including 4x individual EGT sensors
• Garrett GT2860R
• Boost by gear, launch control, flat foot shifting
• Brembo 4-pot big brake kit
• Rebuilt Sachs dampers with a few tweaks courtesy of a very good friend

...and a load of other bits I've forgotten.

When will it be done?
Er... yes. Mid-September with a bit of luck but we'll see.

Photo?
Struggling here as I don't really have much to show yet...

 

[Chris_Beer]

Lol

Wow good post you've got my interest on board now..For some reason I was thinking you had given up on it all and reverting back to a standard engine!

Bits to add to that list:

LSD
New Headlights
New Number plates

 

[SharkyUK]

Lol

Wow good post you've got my interest on board now..For some reason I was thinking you had given up on it all and reverting back to a standard engine!

Bits to add to that list:

LSD
New Headlights
New Number plates

Nah - I'm seeing it through to the end mate

As for the extra bits... I've already got 'em! Freshly built gearbox with LSD, new headlights sat in a box waiting and the missus is buying me new replacement plates when it finally comes home!

Cheers fella!

 

[Clio_fool]

That's an epic list of ingredients, what about the interior? Full factory finish, clubsport or fully stripped and inhospitable?

 

[SharkyUK]

That's an epic list of ingredients, what about the interior? Full factory finish, clubsport or fully stripped and inhospitable?

Yeah mate, there's one or two minor upgrades in that list.

The interior is largely going to remain standard other than the changes needed to mount the digital dash (and an optional Android tablet mount; the MaxxECU provides live / direct data feeds via Bluetooth that can be read by an app on the tablet to provide additional alarms, outputs, displays, graphs, etc.)

A bit boring but you get the idea...

 

[davo172]

Hope this going the right way at last now mate

 

[SharkyUK]

Hope this going the right way at last now mate

Me too mate! I believe Mick is back off holiday today so I'll be catching up with him in the next day or so.

 

[davo172]

Me too mate! I believe Mick is back off holiday today so I'll be catching up with him in the next day or so.

Keep on his case mate need it done before winter!

 

[davo172]

Keep on his case mate need it done before winter!

Not 2020 winter! ??

 

[SharkyUK]

August 2018 - Update #1

A quick (and boring) update just to keep the thread current... just paid for another year of insurance cover and Trophy #165 has just ticked over 11 years in my ownership. Yay.

 

[davo172]

August 2018 - Update #1

A quick (and boring) update just to keep the thread current... just paid for another year of insurance cover and Trophy #165 has just ticked over 11 years in my ownership. Yay.

Any updates from mick?
Mid Sept soon !!
Would say you it's been in garage for more than half the 11 years !
Fred had it over 2 years he should of paid your insurance ??

 

[SharkyUK]

Yes mate, it's coming together.

I (both of us in fact) should have more idea next week as he has a bit more time to spend on it. It's annoying just how unfinished and incomplete SJM left it Basically bought (roughly) the bits that were needed and then did f**k all for 3-4 years. Hence why it's taking Mick so long. He doesn't know what the plan was, Dan won't talk about it (funny that...) and every time Mick sets time aside to work on it there are bits missing [that need ordering] or custom work to do. He can't risk taking a month 'off' (which would be paid of course) to work wholly on my car only to hit the next problem and him sitting waiting on parts, etc. whilst still billing me for doing nothing. Hence, my work has to fit around his bread and butter work. I'm not trying to make excuses for him and he does want it out of his workshop; but it's hard impressing on people just how much needs doing. Especially to do it properly, without cutting corners and without compromising on parts and workmanship.

Hopefully more of an update next weekend...

 

[Jamess182]

Yes mate, it's coming together.

I (both of us in fact) should have more idea next week as he has a bit more time to spend on it. It's annoying just how unfinished and incomplete SJM left it Basically bought (roughly) the bits that were needed and then did f**k all for 3-4 years. Hence why it's taking Mick so long. He doesn't know what the plan was, Dan won't talk about it (funny that...) and every time Mick sets time aside to work on it there are bits missing [that need ordering] or custom work to do. He can't risk taking a month 'off' (which would be paid of course) to work wholly on my car only to hit the next problem and him sitting waiting on parts, etc. whilst still billing me for doing nothing. Hence, my work has to fit around his bread and butter work. I'm not trying to make excuses for him and he does want it out of his workshop; but it's hard impressing on people just how much needs doing. Especially to do it properly, without cutting corners and without compromising on parts and workmanship.

Hopefully more of an update next weekend...

Don't come on this forum much anymore bit I like keeping an eye on this thread.
Anyway, It seems like Mick is kinda taking the piss to be honest, there's just no way it should be taking this long. Not when the guy supposedly knows Clio's like the back of his hands and has got surely got connections with every performance part dealer in the country.

I had a similar issue with another garage who I'd left my 106 GTi with for a lot of work a couple of years back. I started off telling them there's no rush, you can work on it when you've got free time etc... well 2 or 3 months later, after constantly questioning why nothing had happened I finally took the car back off them with barely anything done, it regrettably got a little unfriendly.

The guy takes on well too much work as it is, earlier this year I tried a couple of times to book my Clio in for fault-finding (like literally a 20-minute job for an experienced mechanic) and he genuinely told me to come back in like 3 weeks if that helps... honestly what a joker. Never known any car garage (particularly specialists) to operate that way, it's just not how you should do business imo.

I think you need to start putting the pressure on a little, otherwise the excuses will just keep coming and you'll be waiting until next year. I'm just speaking from experience here, as I'm genuinely rooting for you as I know how much you want this finished chap!

 

[Jamess182]

Don't come on this forum much anymore bit I like keeping an eye on this thread.
Anyway, It seems like Mick is kinda taking the piss to be honest, there's just no way it should be taking this long. Not when the guy supposedly knows Clio's like the back of his hands and has got surely got connections with every performance part dealer in the country.

I had a similar issue with another garage who I'd left my 106 GTi with for a lot of work a couple of years back. I started off telling them there's no rush, you can work on it when you've got free time etc... well 2 or 3 months later, after constantly questioning why nothing had happened I finally took the car back off them with barely anything done, it regrettably got a little unfriendly.

The guy takes on well too much work as it is, earlier this year I tried a couple of times to book my Clio in for fault-finding (like literally a 20-minute job for an experienced mechanic) and he genuinely told me to come back in like 3 weeks if that helps... honestly what a joker. Never known any car garage (particularly specialists) to operate that way, it's just not how you should do business imo.

I think you need to start putting the pressure on a little, otherwise the excuses will just keep coming and you'll be waiting until next year. I'm just speaking from experience here, as I'm genuinely rooting for you as I know how much you want this finished chap!

Just scrolled back through this thread, it's been almost exactly a whole year since it got to Diamond Motors now? Something's just not right.

 

[SharkyUK]

@James172C - f**k me, you might be right mate. I've been so busy of late I didn't actually realise it was near on a year gone since it was taken over to Mick! In light of that I think you are absolutely right; this is starting to get ridiculous now. I won't lie, I feel a bit between a rock and a hard place. I've run out of people to turn to. If Mick can't / won't do it then it's going to be crushed because I'm sick of it.

 

[Starlet_gt]

@James172C - f**k me, you might be right mate. I've been so busy of late I didn't actually realise it was near on a year gone since it was taken over to Mick! In light of that I think you are absolutely right; this is starting to get ridiculous now. I won't lie, I feel a bit between a rock and a hard place. I've run out of people to turn to. If Mick can't / won't do it then it's going to be crushed because I'm sick of it.

I think it's probably the time where you need to sit down with him and go through time scales. I assume he's not doing the work for free and it shouldn't be your concern how much other work he's got on. A terrible position to be in.

 

[Mr R.]

Wow, time fly's.
I thought you was expecting to be using it by now mate, that Clio meet is this weekend. ☹️

 

[gez 172]

He’s had it a year already!? ? it sounds like nothings progressed either?

How do you keep track of how many days labour are being charged etc?

I think it’s time to sit down with him, as what’s been said above.

 

[davo172]

Don't come on this forum much anymore bit I like keeping an eye on this thread.
Anyway, It seems like Mick is kinda taking the piss to be honest, there's just no way it should be taking this long. Not when the guy supposedly knows Clio's like the back of his hands and has got surely got connections with every performance part dealer in the country.

I had a similar issue with another garage who I'd left my 106 GTi with for a lot of work a couple of years back. I started off telling them there's no rush, you can work on it when you've got free time etc... well 2 or 3 months later, after constantly questioning why nothing had happened I finally took the car back off them with barely anything done, it regrettably got a little unfriendly.

The guy takes on well too much work as it is, earlier this year I tried a couple of times to book my Clio in for fault-finding (like literally a 20-minute job for an experienced mechanic) and he genuinely told me to come back in like 3 weeks if that helps... honestly what a joker. Never known any car garage (particularly specialists) to operate that way, it's just not how you should do business imo.

I think you need to start putting the pressure on a little, otherwise the excuses will just keep coming and you'll be waiting until next year. I'm just speaking from experience here, as I'm genuinely rooting for you as I know how much you want this finished chap!

This is VERY true tbh Andy people on here like you a lot but at 12 months in again (I never realised it was that long !)
It certainly does sound like you are being taken for bit of a cash cow again.

As said there really is NO excuse for it taking this long and as much as I don't like saying it I knew this was exactly how it would go yet again.
Do you pay him here and there or monthly or are you paying when jobs done?
Tell me to mind my own if ya like ?
Think it needs a definite deadline bieng given without anymore payment till it's finished or just get it put back to std and sell and sell all the parts before you into it for 50k!
Sorry to sound harsh mate as you are a great bloke and deserve it doing after what you have been thru but think you are being taken for a mug again by another current flavour of the month specialist.

Notice Mick doesn't post on this thread or much in general on here any more !

 

[NorthloopCup]

@SharkyUK i don’t comment much in here, but I do follow the thread so I always check in when there’s an update.

I feel like I’m one of only a few that could comment on actually building a modified car - and I don’t just mean lowering springs, air filter and exhaust modifications! I’m talking the level of mods that you’ve gone ahead with and ultimately what I’ve done on every car I’ve built.

It takes a great deal of foresight to see what parts you’re going to need to keep the build progressing and it’s nigh on impossible to get all the parts in before the build commences, as there’s always going to be something you’ve forgotten. They also need a lot of time spent working out a plan to move forward, a huge amount of time fitting things, checking clearance, removing and then adjusting before things reach the final fitment stage. You need the ability to problem solve, so thinking on your feet mid build on how to adapt and overcome the problems (that will) arise. Those are the ones that can take time to figure a workaround, and for Mick, he’s in an unenviable position as he will have other jobs in that will require his concentration. Leaving project cars, then coming back to them even after a day can take a while to get your head out of one job and back on to the job in hand.

You need to have an honest discussion with Mick in regards to how much longer before you start to see progress and an estimated timescale for completion. You also need to discuss what the way forward is when he runs into snags - does he consult you first? Or does he just go ahead and make the decision? Obviously if there’s a financial implication you’d need to be informed.

I must say though, I’m amazed that he took this project on as he’s said himself there’s no money in building modified cars from a business perspective.

The time has come to forget the whole sjm debacle imo as it’s not going to give you a healthy mindset going forward with the project. The reality is, if Mick doesn’t complete the T, does that mean he will be held in the same regard as sjm? Because he promised and didn’t deliver? Or will it be because of the mess it was all in when he received it? Essentially it just becomes a merry go round.

IF you get let down by Mick the times come for you to get your hands dirty and move it forward yourself. YOU CAN DO IT, no such word as CAN’T. You’ll get a feeling of satisfaction too mate, and in reality, if you’ve got an iPhone or WhatsApp I’ll send you my number and we can FaceTime/video call if you reach a point you’re not sure of.

 

[scotiamr2t]

What a change of tune this has taken! Not looked in a while an regrettably it has gone the direction I always assume it would.

As many above have said a serious discussion needs taking place and a proper plan of action needs to be formed and adhered too.

You are paying Mick to do the work (I assume) so it shouldn’t matter what other work he has in. Also I would have assumed when he took the project on you and him would have taken some time to sit down an go through what was needed to try an elimanate the majority of the delays on parts etc.

Anyway hopefully you have a chat with Mick (SOON) and come up with a viable solution to get the trophy back on the road. Good luck!!

 

[masekwm]

I'm sure Kev at Armstrong offered his assistance to you when it went over to Mick? He built his own high boost van https://www.facebook.com/kev1988uk I'm sure none of this is rocket science for a competent specialist.

 

[davo172]

I'm sure Kev at Armstrong offered his assistance to you when it went over to Mick? He built his own high boost van https://www.facebook.com/kev1988uk I'm sure none of this is rocket science for a competent specialist.

I agree.
Seen lots of people transplant engines into other cars they were never designed to be in in the first place its not like he has to fab up all different engine mounts looms chasisis changes transmission tunnels etc.
I'm not saying it's an easy task but 12 months for a specialist!!

Not like your doing a 20v or type R conversion.

Then again he may just wish he had never taken it on with all the other work and doesn't alwant to say so ,
so keeps stringing it along till you get fed up and decide to do whatever with it.
I think as said you need to have a serious honest chat with him and decide a deadline or call it quits you can't keep throwing money at it and getting empty promises in return it's just not fair on you mate!

 

[SharkyUK]

Thanks folks for taking the time to reply and for the advice, suggestions and general food for thought - all welcomed and appreciated as always. It's a bit of an awkward position to be in.

The time has come to forget the whole sjm debacle imo as it’s not going to give you a healthy mindset going forward with the project. The reality is, if Mick doesn’t complete the T, does that mean he will be held in the same regard as sjm? Because he promised and didn’t deliver? Or will it be because of the mess it was all in when he received it? Essentially it just becomes a merry go round.

IF you get let down by Mick the times come for you to get your hands dirty and move it forward yourself. YOU CAN DO IT, no such word as CAN’T. You’ll get a feeling of satisfaction too mate, and in reality, if you’ve got an iPhone or WhatsApp I’ll send you my number and we can FaceTime/video call if you reach a point you’re not sure of.

Cheers for the reply mate - I value your input given your experience / knowledge in this sort of thing and with you knowing the engine build better than anyone (except Steve?)! I agree, it's water under the bridge but it's still hard not to be bitter. I've had the car 11 years now and it's been off the road for 6+ of them.

I would like to take the car and build it myself; I'm sure I could learn through hands-on experience, practice and help from the likes of yourself. The problem is that I don't have the tools (which I can obviously buy) but, more significantly, I don't have the time. Since I started my own business the working days are long and my primary contract is complex in nature. I really don't have the time and I'm not sure I have the mental capacity to take it on right now either. Hence why I am reliant on specialists whom I am hoping can help me get out of this hole I find myself in. Weekends aren't an option as it's the only time I get to spend with my better half and I am not prepared to give that up.

I'm sure Kev at Armstrong offered his assistance to you when it went over to Mick? He built his own high boost van https://www.facebook.com/kev1988uk I'm sure none of this is rocket science for a competent specialist.

I honestly can't remember mate. I am struggling to keep track myself. I would just like to see some real progress on it and for it to be finished soon, rather than another week, month and then year passing by.

To answer the question / assumption that keeps cropping up... yes, it's a paid job. But a single penny has not been spent yet. I have offered to pay but Mick won't take the money until he's done the work as he prefers to work that way. I have explained I'm happy for him to go ahead and buy whatever he needs for it (if he requires bits or finds something is missing) and to send me the bill. It's not so much a question of money, it's more of time and actually getting time spent on it. As already mentioned, he has planned time for the coming week so we'll see where it's at and whether or not he really wants to continue or not. Maybe he does feel that he would rather leave it and get rid. I just need to know so I can take the next steps. Let's see what happens over the next week.

 

[leeds_182]

Problem is that mick will make his money from cambelts, oil changes, diagnostic work etc - his bread and butter so to speak. He knows how long these jobs will take and how much money he will make. Your car is a totally different kettle of fish - it might sound exciting for the likes of me but for someone who’s balls deep in renaults all week it will just be a pain in the arse.

If I was mick I’d be setting aside two Sundays a month to work on the car to get this done or be giving it back to you.

Unfortunately, if it goes wrong with mick I can’t see another specialist taking this on as it’s just been bad press for every specialist that has taken it on!

 

[Oggy997]

If you do get stuck, I changed the discs, pads & drop links on my boxster. Happy to finish the Trophy off for you.

 

[masekwm]

With the way the rest of the build has been left, is it worth getting Mark to inspect that rebuilt box?

 

[SharkyUK]

Look, reading back over the last page or two I'm concerned this is turning into a bit of a witch hunt and, quite honestly, I'm a bit uncomfortable about it. I don't want to dwell on the past suffice to say that this is a very different situation to SJM and that's all I'm going to say on that. But... I am concerned because it is wholly unfair that Mick be made out to be the bad guy here. He *is* a reputable specialist and held in high regard, and for good reason. He's also a perfectionist and, despite knowing these cars very well, it's the first time (as far as I'm aware) he's worked on a high boost setup of this spec having just been handed a large box or two of parts. My frustration at the lack of progress should not in the slightest reflect on Mick and his business. As most know, he goes out of his way to look after his customers and - again - as many know, working a garage / workshop can often be a painful and thankless task. You have to put a lot in and then you have those minority customers who just love to cause trouble (or seemingly go out of their way to make life awkward). Please don't turn this into an excuse to bad-mouth someone who not only is trying to help me out of a hole but, more importantly, someone who I regard as a good friend.

Problem is that mick will make his money from cambelts, oil changes, diagnostic work etc - his bread and butter so to speak. He knows how long these jobs will take and how much money he will make. Your car is a totally different kettle of fish - it might sound exciting for the likes of me but for someone who’s balls deep in renaults all week it will just be a pain in the arse.

If I was mick I’d be setting aside two Sundays a month to work on the car to get this done or be giving it back to you.

Unfortunately, if it goes wrong with mick I can’t see another specialist taking this on as it’s just been bad press for every specialist that has taken it on!

I don't think the bad press is warranted in this case. I can't expect him to work Sundays as he has a family to spend time with, plus he works a lot of Saturdays too. We'll sort something out.

If you do get stuck, I changed the discs, pads & drop links on my boxster. Happy to finish the Trophy off for you.

Check you out Mr Porsche owner! Thanks mate, kind offer noted!

With the way the rest of the build has been left, is it worth getting Mark to inspect that rebuilt box?

I *think* the box is alright mate (but can always get another opinion on it). If needs be then I'd be more than happy for Mark to take a look / rebuild, etc. but only if he was happy to do so. I wouldn't be the slightest bit offended if he (or anyone) didn't want anything to do with it!

 

[mossyv6]

Mick will sort it for you mate @SharkyUK - the man is a legend and I couldn't think of a better person to solve/sort it. This is why he is so busy

 

[Jamess182]

I'm massively relieved to hear you haven't been charged much as of yet, as I was going to make the same point as @Starlet_gt in my first comment but it was already dragging on a little.

As you've tried to stress over this thread, there's a huge amount of work required, I do understand that. @NorthloopCup everything you say is true, apart from when you remember it's been a whole YEAR since the car was dropped off. 12 whole months. 365 whole days.

It would stress me the hell out making customers wait this long

 

[mitch1503]

Its easy enough for people to sit and say this and that should be done by now but when you have stupid things such as problems of mounting the turbo to DP due to the s**t space etc and needing to come up with things it does take time.

I remember seeing the car last year when i first ever visited Mick and it was literally just a pile of parts with a rolling shell pretty much.also not quite as straight forward when you've just been left with a half arsed job that somebody started and then just stopped without knowing the intended route of the project.

Mick is in High demand, i can honestly say he's a genuine bloke and iv only been using ho
him the last 12months since getting the Mrs a 250CUP, had the car in the other week for clutch,flywheel etc and Renault hadnt delivered parts as they were supposed to.
Mick stayed late and got the job done for me as i actually travel from County Durham to use him, set off home and all of sudden ABS warnings came up so quickly went back and altho he was pretty much locked up he got the laptop and read/cleared codes for me (faulty abs sensor as had fault come up a few days prior) when he could of easily said sorry im closed now.

Im certain if EVERY part needed was there and it was just a simple case of bolting it together he would set a few days aside for it to be done

Im back down again at the end of next month so hopefully see some changes onit as im interested to see it done and hopefully you get to really enjoy the car next summer as the weathers starting to get abit crap again now

 

[scotiamr2t]

I don’t think it’s a witch hunt at all. It’s a simple matter of facts, a year down the line and as far as i can tell from this project thread, not much has changed

 

[iimushroomzii]

I'm sure Mick wants to get this out of the way and done as much as we all want to see it finished. Would it be worth getting a couple of mechanically minded friends together and heading over to micks for a couple of days just to get some of the simpler stuff out the way? That way you're only paying him to do the specialist bits that he needs to? And if you can Mick to work on it at the same time you might actually make some progress.

 

[M.C..]

I would have given up with this a long time ago.
I think the problem here is Mick works alone so can not dedicate a full day to it without affecting other “normal” work.
I have used Mick a few times and he is one of the best garages I have used and will use him again.
I would have a chat with Mick and just ask him if it is too much work with everything else, just be honest that you want it done.
If it is the case try and find somewhere with a few people working there like BeanieSport it will probably more expensive but at least it will be finished.

 

[Clio_fool]

I don't think we should be tarnishing a clio specialists reputation on speculation. Just because this thread isn't updated every week doesn't mean hundreds of little essential parts haven't been ordered or that no assembly has been done at all. Yes it's been there a WHOLE year but it could be closer to being finished than ever before. One man who also has a crust to earn remember!

 

[NorthloopCup]

One man who also has a crust to earn remember!

100% agree with you there mate.

 

[npt]

I'm sure he'll sort it, might get it done when the winter months come in and he's not so busy , he will want it done correctly so it's reliable, here's hoping it all comes good soon

 

[scotiamr2t]

To some of the comments above. I know he "has a crust to earn". That being said, he is charging for the work on the trophy.........therefore if he spends a day on it he charges his rate for the day. Its not complicated. Also understand this thread is a mere scratch on the surface of what needs doing and also what has possibly already been done.

Never used mick before but he seems a top bloke from what people say on here, so i'm sure some solution will be figured out.