Track car rear pads: standard or DS2500?

[Alex__]

As Ive heard the rear brakes dont do much, am I best off going with standard pads to keep the heat in them, or is it with paying the extra for the DS2500s.

Not too bothered about cost, just want the best performance.

Track only car, sticky tyres.

Running DS1.11 fronts

 

[imprezaworks]

I’ve always been lead to believe rears don’t warrant anything but standard. But we had this discussion a few days ago and aparantly they do.

@JamesBryan @Niall

 

[M.C..]

I use £10 ones from ECP they seem fine to me for how much work they do.

 

[green]

Yep.. I’m in the band that say they do.
I’ve gone from CL5 rear pad to standard and noticed the Clio not scrubbing of speed as fast as when I had the CL5’s

 

[imprezaworks]

Be an interesting debate

 

[JB21]

I bet a refurb would make a difference as well, my rears at the minute do f**k all. They can't even remove surface rust even with 50/50 bias with the ABS fuse pulled.

Going to refurb them and see the difference and if the rear pulls stronger then it's worth getting uprated pads.

 

[JamesBryan]

Yeah they do pull about a third of the cars braking efficiency.

The mk2 cup racers ran ds1.11 with 2500 in the rear, so it must have worked for them.

 

[NorthloopCup]

I've also ran ds2500's in the rear and noticed an improvement in the braking effort on my old cup.

 

[car.crash]

Yeah they do pull about a third of the cars braking efficiency.

The mk2 cup racers ran ds1.11 with 2500 in the rear, so it must have worked for them.

I run this setup on a Clio 200.
Very happy with it, feels well balanced.

 

[Hyperhatch]

I run ds1.11 at the fronts (with brembo 4 pots) and ds2500 at the rear on my 182. Never had any issues in the two years I have run them. Predictable, no fade on the hotest of days, brilliant performance and last forever (the rears). I recommend them

 

[imprezaworks]

I feel violated.

 

[JamesBryan]

I feel violated.

Do you feel like you're in the Matrix and everything you've been told is a lie 😂

 

[Niall]

As per the other thread, with DS2500 fronts and standard Brembo rears my fronts pulled 320kg each and 160kg each on the rear at my last MOT. Quite significant if you ask me, plus those standard rears will start to fade and become less effective with heat on track.

I feel violated.

Telling you, forum chinese whispers. Happens all the time!

 

[imprezaworks]

To be fair it’s never a subject that pops up like what tyres are best. Hey ho.

 

[Niall]

To be fair it’s never a subject that pops up like what tyres are best. Hey ho.

It's like that old wives tale that AD08Rs are lethal in the wet, I've had people comment on how much grip there was in the wet with mine lol.

 

[imprezaworks]

Yeah ado8’s are fine.

 

[Sonic Boom]

I run 197 Brembos and RC8's up front and RC6's in the rear it pulls up bloody sharpish, I've still got the ABS just stand on the middle pedal like your life depends on it and everything is fine.
Don't get me started on people that say R888's/AD08's/V700's/VR2's etc etc are terrible in the rain, they're aren't they are brilliant long as the tread depth is deeper than the water on surface of the track but that's the same for any tyre.
Rich

 

[Greeny.]

Yeah they do pull about a third of the cars braking efficiency.

The mk2 cup racers ran ds1.11 with 2500 in the rear, so it must have worked for them.

Thought the Cup Racers ran RC6's or Pagids up front? Not sure DS1.11's were even around when they were racing?

 

[Pauleds]

Standard pads on the rear of the rally car. No issues whatsoever Including using the handbrake on stages and locking the rears with Michelin soft inters on the back (super sticky). Other pads just dont the give the bite and if the standard pads got too warm they wouldn't work (which never happened).
Only ever used standard rear pads on my fwd competition cars (Astras, 205s, MR maestro and Clios)

 

[JamesBryan]

Thought the Cup Racers ran RC6's or Pagids up front? Not sure DS1.11's were even around when they were racing?

1.11’s, 3000’s, Pagid Blue/Grey or Mintex 1177 in the front.

 

[Greeny.]

1.11’s, 3000’s, Pagid Blue/Grey or Mintex 1177 in the front.

Ah I meant Performance Friction pads, not CL's, they used these for sure. Great pads tbh, gutted when I went through mine and couldnt source replacements, can only find PF97's for the rear randomly.

 

[JamesBryan]

Ah I meant Performance Friction pads, not CL's, they used these for sure. Great pads tbh, gutted when I went through mine and couldnt source replacements, can only find PF97's for the rear randomly.

Yeah very good the PF97's.