Track day at cadwell park first timer tips please

[I Solly I]

Hey,

I have a 182, both cup packs with racaro, only mods are decat, Miltek and braided brake lines..

Doing my first track day at cadwell park, other than the obvious make sure it's serviced and brake fluid fresh is there anything major I'm over looking?

Also I think the brakes I'm on should be fine they're Delphi Oem pads and coated Delphi discs..

Also any opions on some decent tyres and preferred tyre pressures would be perfect info

 

[imprezaworks]

Pads won't last long imo

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

Wouldn't trust the pads tbh, but you may get a few laps out of them.

Watch out for lift off oversteer too, they like to do it on a few corners here. Hall Bends (the twisty section through the woods) and the Gooseneck.

 

[JB21]

Budget pads will struggle around Cadwell IMO, when are you doing the track day? I recommend these Mintex M1155, but they take around 3 weeks to deliver...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MDB1613-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

[Budgie]

Just take it easy to start, build up pace as you build with confidence.

Tyres - come in and check the pressures when they're hot.

 

[I Solly I]

Budget pads will struggle around Cadwell IMO, when are you doing the track day? I recommend these Mintex M1155, but they take around 3 weeks to deliver...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MDB1613-M1155-MINTEX-Brake-Pad-Set-disc-brake-front/302183925298?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Thanks for all the replies

From some research I probably should of chosen an easier first track but hey ho

It's on the 20th July so still got some time, is there anything else that I could use?

 

[I Solly I]

Just take it easy to start, build up pace as you build with confidence.

Tyres - come in and check the pressures when they're hot.

So if I start with the standard recommended tyre pressures, recheck when hot and let some air out?

 

[imprezaworks]

What size tyres have you got?

What make of tyre have you got?

 

[I Solly I]

My tyres are firestone 205/45/16

 

[I Solly I]

My tyres are firestone 205/45/16

Tbf there not much left on them arepund 3.5-4mm maybe

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

Firestone... You're going to die 🙈

 

[imprezaworks]

Guess it depends how far you want to go and how the day may pan out.

Decent tyres, maybe the ps3 as a compromise or go for the ad08r's or a spare set of 15's with more track based tyres on allready.

Being your first a decent set of road tyres would be best. See how you get on, enjoy it etc.

 

[I Solly I]

Firestone... You're going to die 🙈

Ahahaha Well hence why I'm asking for an alternative tyre, I've been recommended ad08's.. I was just going to change the fronts mind

 

[PAUL JA]

Ahahaha Well hence why I'm asking for an alternative tyre, I've been recommended ad08's.. I was just going to change the fronts mind

I would say that wasn't a good idea unless you really like oversteer i.e. plenty of front end grip and a lot less on the rear

4No AD08's would be a good choice

As for pressures a good starting point is to set the tyres to their cold pressures when hot and take it from there

 

[JB21]

Budget worn tyres & budget discs and pads, will equal no fun as they'll burn in the dry and be dangerous in the wet.

Get yourself a set of track orientated Road tyres, Nankang, Ferdral, Toyo etc... I get all mine from ebay part worn, just make sure they're not to old (7+ years), lol.

 

[Matt Cup]

Get Tuition if available.

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

Yeah, don't just change the front tyres.

 

[masekwm]

Firestone... You're going to die 🙈

Nah, the medical team is good at Cadwell

 

[New2RS]

Cadwell is awesome.
As above, put £20 aside for tuition.
Worth every penny.
Enjoy.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Just be careful!!

 

[Advikaz]

Don't be a hero

 

[eon172]

£20? ... bargain that!

 

[getikte]

if you have the time and the money invest in a set of pads, ds3000 or the rc5/6 will do! also would advise a set of 15s with some track rubber ad08/888s tend to be popular. not cheap but sometimes you cna find some second hand bargins which helps

 

[Goodj]

Cadwell to break your track cherry?
Wow, that's a baptism of fire 😅

Track it as it stands, you'll work out what needs changing in time for your next one.

 

[dann2707]

You'll be fine, just take it steady at first and warm to the track.

Check wheel bolts when there... Mine came loose due to my powder coated wheels and my wheel fell off.

 

[SWL16]

Have you bought it mainly for track, or just a road car your going to occasionally take to track? Michelin Ps3s are generally the road tyre of choice (and work perfectly fine on track). If it's more track orientated, potentially look at ad08rs, less likely to get cut up by kerbs and rolling onto sidewalls (unlikely to be an issue until you've done a few track days yet!)

My approach to Road tyre pressures, drop them to about 30/28 cold. Do a short first session, come in and immediately adjust to 33/30 before they go cold.

Try and get a spare wheel if you don't have one already. (and probably a breaker bar). Spare set of Brembos front pads never go a miss at 30 quid.

Bring plenty of water. (for you not the car).
Most importantly - Download racechrono pro. :smile:

 

[seanpeat309]

If it's anything I've learnt It's worth buying a decent set of pads. Ds2500 or similar. Other than that just get out there and enjoy yourself. Don't worry about the other guys on track they have paid as much as you to be there. Just be considerate where possible and enjoy yourself!


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[Niall]

Another big thing not mentioned, is keep some throttle on in the bends, even a little bit just so the car is balanced. The amount of people who lift off the throttle completely and then wonder why they end up facing the opposite way is unreal. Also, if the back and does go, give it throttle not brakes, another one noobs always get wrong.

If you manage to spin a Clio on track without a spillage or something you're doing something wrong.

 

[Christopher]

Cadwell to break your track cherry?
Wow, that's a baptism of fire 😅

Track it as it stands, you'll work out what needs changing in time for your next one.

I did the Ring. Bricks were shat. :|
Just take it easy, especially on budget brakes and worn sh*t tyres.
I'd look at replacing them both beforehand, personally.

 

[Goodj]

budget brakes and worn sh*t tyres.
I'd look at replacing them both beforehand, personally.

Valid.

 

[George@RTR_Parts]

I'd look at getting some better pads in the front, and picking some cheap 15" alloys with better tyres on , they come up often with Federals RSR , Nankang NS2R , R888 etc etc on second hand

Get some tuition booked for the morning, best money you'll spend

Take it steady and build up speed through the day. I did my first track day at Cadwell in my 172 and I'm still here , it's awesome. Be warned once you get the bug , it gets addictive :up:

 

[I Solly I]

Thanks all for your help!

Bit the bullet £400 later and shelled out for 4x AD08r's on the standard 16's , Also changed my pads to DS2500 and front strutbrace.

I was going to get the Track tuition or enquiry when I'm there

 

[MartinL1993]

Well that escalated quickly

 

[New2RS]

Thanks all for your help!

Bit the bullet £400 later and shelled out for 4x AD08r's on the standard 16's , Also changed my pads to DS2500 and front strutbrace.

I was going to get the Track tuition or enquiry when I'm there

Money well spent.

 

[Coops Mk1]

love a good man maths track car spend, you'll have a much more enjoyable time even as a beginner with tyres and brakes you can trust and lean on a bit imo, good work!

enjoy!

 

[imprezaworks]

Agreed ^

You must be confident enough in your driving to book a day, and better tyres and brakes will Make it more enjoyable.

Have fun

 

[Louis]

Get some cheap 15's for next time. They pay for themselves when you're buying tyres.

 

[Niall]

Also worth changing your fluid if you're running standard stuff, otherwise the standard stuff will boil really easily. The ATE Type 200 is cheap and really good.

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

Also worth changing your fluid if you're running standard stuff, otherwise the standard stuff will boil really easily. The ATE Type 200 is cheap and really good.

Yeah for what it costs new, you may as well stick TYP200 in.

 

[JB21]

Ran ECP's Pagid DOT 4 in mine last time out at Aintree and Oulton without issue, in fact the pedal felt firmer than with ATE200, and at £15 for 5 litres v £14 for 1 litre of ATE200...

Pagid DOT 4:

• Dry Equilibrium Reflux Boiling Point, 260 ?C minimum

• Wet Equilibrium Reflux Boiling Point, 160?C min

• Kinematic Viscosity at -40 deg C = 1500 cSt max

ATE TYPE200:

• Typical Dry Boiling Point : 280 Degrees C. (536 Degrees F.)

• Minimum Wet Boiling Point : 198 Degrees C. (388 Degrees F.)

• Viscosity at -40 degrees F: max cst 1,400