TRACK TROPHY 381 – PROGRESS TO DATE

[andyj007]

bit unlucky on the track day,, looks like the show was great tho... what are the symptons for your diagnosis of possible driveshaft wheel bearing... will add it to my list of possible preventative maintenance spares..
cheers

 

[cpaterson76]

bit unlucky on the track day,, looks like the show was great tho... what are the symptons for your diagnosis of possible driveshaft wheel bearing... will add it to my list of possible preventative maintenance spares..
cheers

loud grumble on right turn under load. Having never experienced French problems before a few guys at the track came out for a lap and came up with the tri bearing on the end of the shaft as seemingly they can get very noisy before they go..... there doesn't seem to be any play on the wheel bearings to be fair, but I may just change them out regardless as a bit of preventative maintenance.......

 

[cpaterson76]

One from CSOC Scotland

 

[cpaterson76]

loud grumble on right turn under load. Having never experienced French problems before a few guys at the track came out for a lap and came up with the tri bearing on the end of the shaft as seemingly they can get very noisy before they go..... there doesn't seem to be any play on the wheel bearings to be fair, but I may just change them out regardless as a bit of preventative maintenance.......

Well shaft changed! - no sign of any issue on the bearings to the box end, but the CV joint did feel a little loose compared to the new one (as you would expect).... Initial spin round the block and all seems silent, but it will need track to determine if it's fixed or not! Must get something planned as the next outing is the CSOC Performance French night, with a magazine photo shoot I'm told, but that's not until the 29th August 🙈!!

Forgot to take photos of the change over - but here's one of a shiny hub nut and spindle :laughing:

 

[cpaterson76]

Well another minor update today...... Lack of track time is really bothering me now!! Car has sat for another month and did nothing with the next outing not until the end of August oo:

So, not being a 100% happy with the DS 1.11s, I've switched back to RC8's. The main reason for the change was the lack of initial bite, even though they did seem to perform throughout the day and certainly last longer than the RC6s. I'm hoping the change back to the RC8's will give me the best of both...... Well I suppose we shall soon see 🙈

Biggest pain in the ass was the marks on the callipers from the grey 1.2s (balance weights)! you don't see anything when the wheels are on, but that was enough to sell them and order up some pro race 3s in silver as a change..... Although these are taking until the end of August to arrive, but no real issue as they will be wrapped in rain sport 3s for wet use and I'm hoping that we will see some dry track time!

Only other thought is about the Anglesey track day planned for September..... It's a long drive, especially when I'll be coming back from Cornwall the day before and to turn around and drive back down from north of Edinburgh the next morning, may mean a tired out effort on track 🙈 !!

Any comments on whether Anglesey is worth the travel??

 

[16v-clio]

Forgot about the track evening, I should be doing the full day open pit on the 29th so might see you there afterwards

 

[cpaterson76]

Forgot about the track evening, I should be doing the full day open pit on the 29th so might see you there afterwards

Spot on mate, i take it starting won't be an issue?

 

[16v-clio]

Probably find out the morning of 🙈 Cleaned the tdc sensor the day after KH and away it went, been ok since so struggling to see how it could be anything else!

 

[cpaterson76]

French mate - temperamental !!

 

[cpaterson76]

Well boredom has set in again! So that means eBay!!

This time a cheap modification which I'm hoping makes a big difference! After getting the HANS device it's very hard to turn your head and look down pit lane, so thought I'd try one of the wide angle mirrors......

I got the one that clips over the existing mirror, but I'm wishing I got the one that loops over the roll cage bar!

Let's hope it makes a difference but at a quick glance I can see out both side windows & the rear quarters so it should be a little easier

 

[Chambers_RS]

I got the one that goes over the roll cage for my Nurburgring trip and it help loads.

I can sit in the drivers seat and see behind me and see out passenger rear quarter and passenger door window, giving virtually no blind spot. :up:

 

[cpaterson76]

Well a different day at KNOCKHILL today!

We were meant to be on track this weekend but Renault booked the track for their driving experience day and we have been pushed to end of September! Typical as the weather today was perfect for once!!,

They brought an army of cars and had 7 or 8 Megane GT sports for a half hour on track slot, 2 slots booked and an hour of fun in someone else's car!! Can't wait for a shot of the Megane RS as the GT was actually great fun even with the the rear wheel steer..... Also it gave us a little practice for Monday nights Performance French Magazine night :smile:

Most exciting car of the day was this though!

If your name was pulled out the hat you got three or four passenger laps! Guess I'll just have to make do with Monday coming! Sounded great going round though :up:

 

[cpaterson76]

PERFORMANCE FRENCH NIGHT -

Pictures say it all really

These were taken at the end of the night..... A few battle scars on a few cars but all in all fun time had by all I think......

I still have the rumble from either the box or the hub, possibly slight play in the wheel bearing so I'll change them over the coming week, maybe should have done that before the drive shaft!! Never mind it never hindered performance and I must say I'm liking the the rc8 bite over the ds1.11s, massive confidence inspiring feeling now with the brakes, although lap times tonight didn't reflect it, it was busy as you could imagine with that many clios out for fun

Well next outing is the 25th September where the Honda owners club have invited us up for a challenge !

Hope to catch up with a few of you then

 

[cpaterson76]

LAST UPDATE OF THE YEAR (POSSIBLY)!........,,

Tonight's update! It has been a while!

Bit of a poor show this year as far as track days go, only done 6, most of those wet which whilst good fun never really hit the spot :down:

Anyway, cars all set up, washed, polished and ready to battle at the Honda track night tomorrow ! Hopefully we'll do ok but a supercharged Type R is always a challenge on the straights!

Anyway obligatory snap below pre battle

In between times I've had the near side wheel bearing changed, so let's see if that cures this noise, if not the only thing left Is to change the box ! Only blessing is if that's happening it will be a brand new box from Renault with the addition of a gripper so there is always a positive :smile:....... will keep you updated on that one, although I think the car is going away for the winter as I've cancelled this Sunday's sessions day so the update may be next year!


Only other bit of excitement today was the arrival of the new wet wheels, iv had the rain sport 3s for a month waiting on these arriving, but in true TD style these are 4 weeks late (my fault seemingly for wanting silver as they carry black n white in stock !!). To be fair it's meant to be dry tomorrow night, so no rush and I'll maybe wait until spring to get them fitted up! although it will need a trial fit to confirm they clear the Brembos, and I do want to see how the car sits on them

Opinions will vary but I have 2 sets of 1.2s (had 3 so sold the charcoal ones) so I needed a change !!

Anyway that's it for tonight and hope to catch a few of you tomorrow afternoon / night!

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

How are you getting on with the JMT battery on this? Still ok?

I've been looking on eBay and found these two:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281973413099?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JMT-SUZUK...042614?hash=item1eb8d5ddf6:g:4k4AAOSw8gVX54h4

Are they similar to what you have?

 

[andyj007]

wheels look great, got em on the car yet?

 

[cpaterson76]

How are you getting on with the JMT battery on this? Still ok?

I've been looking on eBay and found these two:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281973413099?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JMT-SUZUK...042614?hash=item1eb8d5ddf6:g:4k4AAOSw8gVX54h4

Are they similar to what you have?

Yeah that's similar mate.

Battery is perfect, never missed a beat all year, Fraser has no complaints either. I believe a few other guys have got them too now.

Only thing I do is isolate it between uses. as if left on the alarm will run it down within a fortnight, but two minutes running and it's full charged again.

No complaints at all :up:

 

[cpaterson76]

wheels look great, got em on the car yet?

Cheers Andy. No Not yet. Trial fitted and massive clearance so perfect. Was worried as they came in 38 off set and not 35mm as ordered, which was the reason for selling the grey 1.2s (every mm counts with the Brembo conversion) but really happy.

They won't be going on until next year, car is tucked away for winter now and won't be out until box is replaced, so currently saving the pennies and looking at diff options 🙈!

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Yeah that's similar mate.

Battery is perfect, never missed a beat all year, Fraser has no complaints either. I believe a few other guys have got them too now.

Only thing I do is isolate it between uses. as if left on the alarm will run it down within a fortnight, but two minutes running and it's full charged again.

No complaints at all :up:

Good to hear. Drain shouldn't be too much of an issue for me, as mine will be isolated by the cut-off switch when not in use.

How does the first one stack up to yours spec-wise, any idea? Listing for the second one doesn't look too helpful, even if the price is better!

 

[cpaterson76]

Sorry first one looked similar, if you go back a few pages in the thread I copied and pasted the spec I'm sure (working from my phone so not too easy to navigate), the item description on the second one was blank.....

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

I'll have a look back. It looks like my Escort needs something a bit more meaty than a Clio so will have to look into what other types they do.

 

[cpaterson76]

I'll have a look back. It looks like my Escort needs something a bit more meaty than a Clio so will have to look into what other types they do.

The high power Subaru's at KNOCKHILL use the same battery seemingly :up:

 

[iamjoel]

Saw your car in one of Chi/Gav's pics and it looks amazing, it's what I'm looking to get mine at! Was asking them what you ran front end wise because it looks so good, surprised you only run 10mm front spacers as well, I run 16mm and it doesn't look as wide. How much camber you running up front?

 

[cpaterson76]

Saw your car in one of Chi/Gav's pics and it looks amazing, it's what I'm looking to get mine at! Was asking them what you ran front end wise because it looks so good, surprised you only run 10mm front spacers as well, I run 16mm and it doesn't look as wide. How much camber you running up front?

Cheees mate

I run 2.5 degrees camber although I'm taking some off. I run 10mm spacers with the 35mm offset wheels, I also have 16mm and 25mm spacers to suit other off sets that I run.

Hopefully catch up with you next year at the track or some shows :up:

 

[NorthloopCup]

Saw your car in one of Chi/Gav's pics and it looks amazing, it's what I'm looking to get mine at! Was asking them what you ran front end wise because it looks so good, surprised you only run 10mm front spacers as well, I run 16mm and it doesn't look as wide. How much camber you running up front?

He's on roll centre hubs as well which add another 10mm track width overall.

 

[cpaterson76]

He's on roll centre hubs as well which add another 10mm track width overall.

This is true.... didn't think it added that much though:smile: :up:

 

[NorthloopCup]

This is true.... didn't think it added that much though:smile: :up:

Yeah 5mm per wheel mate. :up:

 

[iamjoel]

This is true.... didn't think it added that much though:smile: :up:

Makes a bit more sense now, I didn't know the roll centre hubs were wider, I really want a set but a bit out of price range atm and hard to get hold of!
See here's a pic of mine with the TD 1.2 (I'm not 100% sure on offset as they were second hand, previous owner didn't know and in behind the wheels where it normally says it is unreadable now) and 16mm spacers, I think the wheel is slightly turned but still sits nowhere near as nice, I run 3 degrees camber as well, looks like yours is so much more cambered too, racecar stance.

 

[cpaterson76]

Makes a bit more sense now, I didn't know the roll centre hubs were wider, I really want a set but a bit out of price range atm and hard to get hold of!
See here's a pic of mine with the TD 1.2 (I'm not 100% sure on offset as they were second hand, previous owner didn't know and in behind the wheels where it normally says it is unreadable now) and 16mm spacers, I think the wheel is slightly turned but still sits nowhere near as nice, I run 3 degrees camber as well, looks like yours is so much more cambered too, racecar stance.

In those photos it most possibly was running more. I was taking too much out of the tyres and didn't feel that much benefit, so I've started taking some off. AFTER box n diff next year it will be going in for geo and corner weight set up so I'll see what suits at that time :grin:

 

[cpaterson76]

It does look quite wide n squat on track.......well for a clio anyway!

 

[20vKarlos]

This is an awesome car

 

[NorthloopCup]

Makes a bit more sense now, I didn't know the roll centre hubs were wider, I really want a set but a bit out of price range atm and hard to get hold of!
See here's a pic of mine with the TD 1.2 (I'm not 100% sure on offset as they were second hand, previous owner didn't know and in behind the wheels where it normally says it is unreadable now) and 16mm spacers, I think the wheel is slightly turned but still sits nowhere near as nice, I run 3 degrees camber as well, looks like yours is so much more cambered too, racecar stance.

Roll centre hubs are currently being done again mate. I'm the one who designed and sells them, so let me know if you're wanting a set. :up:

 

[Jekyll]

I second that!

 

[iamjoel]

In those photos it most possibly was running more. I was taking too much out of the tyres and didn't feel that much benefit, so I've started taking some off. AFTER box n diff next year it will be going in for geo and corner weight set up so I'll see what suits at that time :grin:

My 3 degrees feels good, especially on a fast corner like corham at Snetterton where you get a fair bit of lean and its where it will make the most out of the camber however sometimes I do feel like I should be taking some off as well. Would be interesting to actually test tyre temperatures and see what kind of camber actually suits best.

Roll centre hubs are currently being done again mate. I'm the one who designed and sells them, so let me know if you're wanting a set. :up:

Sounds like good news that they aren't extinct then, are they the Laguna hubs that are used similarly to the cup racers or the Clio hubs? What price are they?

 

[cpaterson76]

This is an awesome car

Thanks mate

 

[cpaterson76]

Roll centre hubs are currently being done again mate. I'm the one who designed and sells them, so let me know if you're wanting a set. :up:

Can't say enough about these. Point and shoot after fitment and the car seems so much more planted and controllable :up:

 

[NorthloopCup]

My 3 degrees feels good, especially on a fast corner like corham at Snetterton where you get a fair bit of lean and its where it will make the most out of the camber however sometimes I do feel like I should be taking some off as well. Would be interesting to actually test tyre temperatures and see what kind of camber actually suits best.

Sounds like good news that they aren't extinct then, are they the Laguna hubs that are used similarly to the cup racers or the Clio hubs? What price are they?

No mate we modify the original hubs that are fitted to your car. No need to mess around modifying strut casings then. Price is £650 delivered mate.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Can't say enough about these. Point and shoot after fitment and the car seems so much more planted and controllable :up:

You want to try driving a mk3 mate! They're even better!!

 

[cpaterson76]

You want to try driving a mk3 mate! They're even better!!

I know I had a shot of Fraser's red 197..... out the box and unmodified amazing!! Hence the thought of selling #381 and starting over again......🙈

 

[NorthloopCup]

I know I had a shot of Fraser's red 197..... out the box and unmodified amazing!! Hence the thought of selling #381 and starting over again......🙈

Flol! Well I ain't starting over again I can assure you!!