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Turbo project!!!



stevo172-RWD

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 172 rwd
You could take it off
Mybe block pipe that goes to manifold.
Remove the top of the canistor and leave the sensor plugged in?

What do you say danny?
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
You could take it off
Mybe block pipe that goes to manifold.
Remove the top of the canistor and leave the sensor plugged in?

What do you say danny?
when you block the pipe it just stalls. If i did that wouldnt it be the same as if i had no pipe at all
 

stevo172-RWD

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 172 rwd
You beat me to it!

It's fly by so it's been mapped with an air leak!
So when you stop the leak there's no air flowing past the motorized bodie?
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
You beat me to it!

It's fly by so it's been mapped with an air leak!
So when you stop the leak there's no air flowing past the motorized bodie?
Will have to get that checked then.
Its still dropping boost started doing it again i thought i had fixed it so going to test lines tomorrow
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
It was mapped with a different engine so does that mean the other engine might have had a air leak
 
  ITB'd MK1
Will have to get that checked then.
Its still dropping boost started doing it again i thought i had fixed it so going to test lines tomorrow

if it wont idle without the pipe, it's sucking air in thorugh the carbon canister, probably blown a 1-way valve inside that and that's your leak. Your map will be well out if it was like that when it was done
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
Will have to make sure everything is spot on and check it. What could cause a boost drop other than the pipes???
 

stevo172-RWD

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 172 rwd
if it wont idle without the pipe, it's sucking air in thorugh the carbon canister, probably blown a 1-way valve inside that and that's your leak. Your map will be well out if it was like that when it was done

Danny if you look at the pipe that came off mine you see Bbpt had a one way valve installed.
Mybe the carbon canistor does not have a very good/or no one way valve?
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
Danny if you look at the pipe that came off mine you see Bbpt had a one way valve installed.
Mybe the carbon canistor does not have a very good/or no one way valve?
Dont think it has a one way valve on that line or in canister at all.
 

stevo172-RWD

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 172 rwd
Will have to make sure everything is spot on and check it. What could cause a boost drop other than the pipes???

Lots of things.
Leaks.
Dump valve
Map -if it's overboosting what it been mapped at
Feels like all power goes for a moment then boost builds up again
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
Im thinking the controller is rubish and its set to 0.6 but it dont work proper at first
 

stevo172-RWD

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 172 rwd
So your using a boost controller then?
But what is the ecu map set to?
Mine was 0.6bar when I did some fiddling tho it went to 0.8bar then just shut off throttle for a moment
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
So your using a boost controller then?
But what is the ecu map set to?
Mine was 0.6bar when I did some fiddling tho it went to 0.8bar then just shut off throttle for a moment
ye its got a controller on it at the mine a manual one. It was mapped for 0.6 but was checked yesterday an was fine to be at 1 bar.
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
Anyone got any ideas why the engine stalls when i cover the vacuum hole up when on a standard 182 it dont. Everything on the engine is a 182 now so why does it still not work without the vacuum pipe off
 
  ITB'd MK1
maps been altered to take that leak into account. trouble is, if you fix the leak to regain the power at the top end, the map needs re-doing. shitty stock ECU
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
Yep... needs mapping from scratch really!

Unless you want to rig it up, and tape the open vacuum to something. lol
 
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ashy_gtt

Have you fitted a 1 way valve in the brake servo line too?

Remember the servo and cabon canister would never see pressure above atmospheric on a stock car, bobby basics mate. You need to sort all these things properly and get it re-mapped.

A proper pressure test will show you the problem spots, if you dont sort these you will keep getting the same probems over and over gain, the length of pipe used isn't going to make any difference if everythings as it should be.
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
Have you fitted a 1 way valve in the brake servo line too?

Remember the servo and cabon canister would never see pressure above atmospheric on a stock car, bobby basics mate. You need to sort all these things properly and get it re-mapped.

A proper pressure test will show you the problem spots, if you dont sort these you will keep getting the same probems over and over gain, the length of pipe used isn't going to make any difference if everythings as it should be.
The brake servo line is standard k-tec dont change them. Iv tested for boost leaks and come up with no leaks. If you unplug one injector the car runs fine lol just found that out :)
 
A

ashy_gtt

The brake servo line is standard k-tec dont change them. Iv tested for boost leaks and come up with no leaks. If you unplug one injector the car runs fine lol just found that out :)

eh?

so there is no one way valve on the servo line?

you unplug one injector and it runs fine at idle? or are you driving it? i'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by unplugging injectors?
 
  Racing blue 182 turbo :-)
eh?

so there is no one way valve on the servo line?

you unplug one injector and it runs fine at idle? or are you driving it? i'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by unplugging injectors?
ye there is on the standard one, not driving it no i was on drive. Not trying to achieve anything i was taking them off to see if they were running fine on idle.


Finaly sorted it changes some bits around at the min it runs perfect :)
 
A

ashy_gtt

ye there is on the standard one, not driving it no i was on drive. Not trying to achieve anything i was taking them off to see if they were running fine on idle.


Finaly sorted it changes some bits around at the min it runs perfect :)

I really don't think you've grasped the problem, I'm not having a go but this must be the 10th time you've said you've sorted somthing then you're back on the next day with another problem! You really need to sort the basic problems out first otherwise you will cause bigger problems in the long run.

I say again changing the length of a vac pipe wont suddenly fix something, the engine will pull a vac on a short pipe or a long pipe regardless (unless one has a hole / split in it).

Again you're saying you've fixed it again by swapping a few things around, but problems don't just go away unless you sort them properly!

Take the car to someone who knows what they are doing before you blow it up again!
 

stevo172-RWD

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 172 rwd
standard oe servo vaccum pipe has not got a one way valve.
It needs one otherwise it will lose boost(leak)
Pluss the servo line is there to be sucked no?
So positive pressure(boost)
Won't do the brakes any good will it?

You need to get this car checked over mate by a good garage.
I mean
Remap=
+one 1way valve£6?I think.
And also do away with carbon can and pipe.

Then it will be sorted
 

stevo172-RWD

ClioSport Club Member
  clio 172 rwd
And stop taking the damn injector plugs off while it's running !
You have faults all over the dash.
 


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