See the williams tho!....Again it's rather like the Vee...It's down to the driver.
The 197 is piss easy to drive...the willy....Is bloody difficult! Ace fun when mine was going right, but s**t scary imo! Mid corner twitchiness rivaled the vee!
FF then.Won't be getting stripped i want a 4 seater comfy car! H&R's maybe and sticky tyres. Job done, No engine mods...
no such thing as a 172 ff, no options on them............
no such thing as a 172 ff, no options on them............
we should call the Cup "low fat" or possibly "semi skimmed"
Ph1 172- past its best
Ph1 172- past its best
Have to disagree with you. Seen many threads mention FF with cup packs.lol i prefer 'The best'......
172, 172 cup. Thats it. no FF.
History lesson.
FF was a term for a 182 WITH both Cup packs fitted, ie fully loaded, ie full fat. For some strange reason its now used on 172's, and non cupped 182's. :S
182 - semi skimmed
182 cup - low fat
182 FF - full cream
172 cup - low fat
172 Ph2 - "soya"
Trophy - Man milk lol
Cup + H&R's =
Do it Scotland.
Have to disagree with you. Seen many threads mention FF with cup packs.lol i prefer 'The best'......
172, 172 cup. Thats it. no FF.
History lesson.
FF was a term for a 182 WITH both Cup packs fitted, ie fully loaded, ie full fat. For some strange reason its now used on 172's, and non cupped 182's. :S
See the williams tho!....Again it's rather like the Vee...It's down to the driver.
The 197 is piss easy to drive...the willy....Is bloody difficult! Ace fun when mine was going right, but s**t scary imo! Mid corner twitchiness rivaled the vee!
hmm, see this makes me think even more that you bought a tired old example or something was seriously wrong. I replaced all the suspension on mine, I mean the entire lot and the difference was quite amazing. It's never been and never should be twitchy, the whole reason I loved the car so much was it was the opposite. Stable until a point where it starts to go and the chassis is so compliant that you can correct the skid/slide without that panic factor you get in other cars. In the bends mine was solid and almost infinitely adjustable. This was on totally standard suspension (with correct non Cup springs) all purchased from those c**ts at Reno.
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By all means ignore me, but no one has challenged my point yet... then again I'd have called it common sense, maybe there is hope for Clio Sport afterall :rasp:
Cup + H&R's =
Do it Scotland.
It's the only way forward!
172 cup everytime plus you will be in my cup sqaud:approve:
Being in Scotland, don't park the horse anywhere. Someone is bound to deep fry the poor b*****d.
DUnno...I replaced all the shocks and front springs on mine, was set up at IF..>Was good, but not as good as everyone chirped...Or mayb i'm not the driver i think i am
DUnno...I replaced all the shocks and front springs on mine, was set up at IF..>Was good, but not as good as everyone chirped...Or mayb i'm not the driver i think i am
I replaced literally everything, top mounts, bottom ball joints etc etc etc, dont know how much of a difference it would make, but I'd guess it's a fair bit. Also why would you need standard suspension setting up? Just throw it on and get the tracking done, sorted. TBH I think your example was probably a nail, mechanically most/a lot are, but they are old as f**k.
RSTuning remap apparently does a pretty good job of gettin some torque low down thoughWon't be getting stripped i want a 4 seater comfy car! H&R's maybe and sticky tyres. Job done, No engine mods...
When i drove the r27 at cadwell the boy was like "LIFT LIFT going up the hill, i just looked over and smiled!" Absolutely flat out! Unreal how much grip the car had!
I'm such a c**ky c**t! haha! loved it tho! Just no torque what so ever!
Pink Bus 2?Buy my 172 flamer!
Drag race will prove nothing, other than who's more willing to abuse their clutch/gearbox.Hiya mate, i got a Trophy and my best mate has just bought a 172 cup. Going to be interesting to see the outcome when we have a drag race.....I'd go for the Trophy but then that's me being biased. Both nice cars!