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your talking about on a track. He's not doing track days he's already said that !

Grand worth of mods wont pull on a standard car ? Now who's talking rubbish .. Agree that uprated brakes arnt to be sniffed at but when do you have the oppotunitly to actually be in a position to outbrake anyone ??

Whats the point in having driving tuition? Yes it might make him more driver aware but in the real world with other cars about, busy roads etc its not going to be of any great benafit vs a dose of extra bhp !

Bloody hell thats a good price. Im one year older than you paying just a tad under 500 in rural Scotland with 5 years NCB fully comp protected Who are you with and is that fully comp ?

Its your starter matey Mines doing exactly the same and has been for the past few months. Quick tap with a iron bar usually free's the sticking bushes all be it tempory ;)

Yeah, if he's planning on spanking it to death on the UK road network but in the real world thats just not possible. He wants more power but the next big step up is into cams which will top his grand by another half Id go decat, maxogen, inlet and remap

Best thing is to do a search as most of the info has already been covered but for a taster, buy a second hand manifold and you just need a link pipe to join up. Bugger to fit and dont expect 10 bhp. Like any mod you need a remap to get the best out of it. Not sure about that better top end...

Mines well slack too. Tightend the cable up but after a few months its gone slack again. Not sure if its a new cable i need or handbrake shoes

Had mine done and cant say it reved any easier. Had other mods done at the same time however. I agree too. Scientific, 'book talk' on mechanics does my load in

Ph1 172 (owned it from new) 100700

Yes but Cup vs 172 FF is a saving of 89 kg !! 197 Cup is only saving 20 - 30 kg which wont make any real world difference

Yeah its just going to be a matter of time before you have to folk out another 30 notes. Not my cup of tea either but at least here you can tell your first name from it :) , better than the boring initial ones which mean jack s**t to anyone

If its on the rim protector you could get away with it - i did last year

You wont get the answer your looking for. Two many mixed views and different experiences on the subject ;)

Where did you get it trimmed up and is it the same colour as original? :)

Think the problem is the gearbox, rarity of getting hold of a donor engine and cost vs other methods. Sure i read someone on here tried but gave up due to various problems Better cost per turbo option would be a VAG 20v Turbo conversion

Isnt 172 / 182 / 230 bhp very powerful like ?? :clown:

Aye, buy a plug in CCTV camera. Mega cheap and just plug in the back of your telly.

I wouldnt bother replacing things unless their needed. Iv done over 100k and it feels as good as what it did when it had 20k on the clock!

You were lucky Spoke to a salesman at a Subaru dealer a few years back and they wouldnt touch a imported Scooby again after the two imports they sold went pop all down to the differences between the UK and Japan octane levels apparently (98 vs 100 ron)

Wrong way round matey. Needs to run rich not lean ? :)

If octane level's make no difference according to some then why do folk involved in motorsport activities use octane boosters?, use high octance racing fuel, aircraft fuel etc etc ?

Yeah mines just a 172 John. Had a lot of work done on it and i thought 167 (which is what? 190 odd bhp @ Fly) was pretty good going vs standard figure of 134bhp (Clio 172). You certainly have a good one their if the figures are about right :)

Damn right! Ive got twice as many mods as that inc cams, inlets, head etc etc etc and my best is 167 @ Wheels! :eek:

Check the serial number on it matey. No two starter motors were the same on the Sports

If you want a faster than the norm 172 and gonna be keeping it for a fair few years then yeah go for it But.. Be aware, for 2 to 4k's worth of mods on 172, you could have a very nice second car sat on your driveway with bags more potential.

Complete load of rubbish Makes a hell of a difference over the stock especially at the top end of the rev range (when set up).

750 quid :eek: My steelers are not even half that. Got mine done at the same time as a pulley and it came to under 300! (before anyone asks, im not getting mixed up with the auxillary belt either)

Its still worth getting a Clio Haynes as a lot of stuff does still apply to the 172's. The above poster he has his own website with fitting guides too which are very helpfull :cool: *free plug ;) lol

All it is is a standard round ITG IK inside a carbon box