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It was someones on here, http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=13&TopicID=69492&PagePosition=1http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=13&TopicID=69492&PagePosition=1
They are more a luxury hot hatch tourer, quick on the straights and will cruise at 120 all day, however dont turn into bends too sharply ;)
172 = fun all day long, but harsh sounding engine (in comparison)
VR6 = Comfy crusier with ace sounding engine but no cornering ability.
VW build...