172/182 Torque Wrench Settings

[The Fatty]

Can we progressively populate this guide with torque wrench settings so we have a one stop place for all know torque settings:

Engine

Inlet Pulley (dephaser): 100nm (Fred does them to 125nm as he doesn't trust it)
Exhaust Pulley: 30nm + 86deg (that normally equates to 125nm)
Idlers: 55nm
Cambelt Tensioner: 28nm
Crank Pulley Bolt: 40nm + 110deg (there's 4 different values, but Fred uses that one, that equates to 130-140nm normally)


Gearbox



Suspension & Steering

Front Damper Top Mount: 20nm
Front Damper to Swivel Hub: 105nm
Front Carrier to Hub: ?
Front Guide Pin Bolts: ?
Front Hub Nut: 230nm (tbc)
Front Ball Joint Pinch Bolt: ?
Front Ball Joint to Wishbone: ?
Rear Damper (Upper): 20nm (tbc)
Rear Damper (Lower): 105nm (tbc)
Rear Hub Nut: 175nm
Rear Carrier to Hub: 100nm
Rear Calliper to carrier: 40nm
Road Wheels: 105nm

Engine/Gearbox Mounts

Upper engine mount:
- Drivers side top mount bolts (4 bolts): 62NM
- Driver side top mount bolts onto engine (3 bolts): 62NM
- Driver side central nut: 44NM

Upper Gearbox Mount
- Passenger side upper mount to gearbox (3 bolts): 62NM
- Passenger side upper mount/battery tray to body (4 bolts): 21NM
- Passenger side upper mount central nut: 62NM
- Passenger side upper mount to battery tray (2 bolts): 21NM

Lower Gearbox Mount
-Passenger side lower mount nut/bolt: 44NM

Dogbone Mount
- Dogbone mount bolts (2 bolts): 62NM


please post any you know so I can add them on. if your not sure, please put (tbc) in your post

 

[The Fatty]

Front Damper Top Mount: 20nm
Front Damper to Swivel Hub: 105nm

 

[Flat Eric]

Good thread! Thanks

 

[ScottL]

Really good thread you wouldnt mind if I stole your idea and done one for other engines mate?

 

[krappy]

Engine/Gearbox Mounts

Upper engine mount:
- Drivers side top mount bolts (4 bolts): 62NM
- Driver side top mount bolts onto engine (3 bolts): 62NM
- Driver side central nut: 44NM

Upper Gearbox Mount
- Passenger side upper mount to gearbox (3 bolts): 62NM
- Passenger side upper mount/battery tray to body (4 bolts): 21NM
- Passenger side upper mount central nut: 62NM
- Passenger side upper mount to battery tray (2 bolts): 21NM

Lower Gearbox Mount
-Passenger side lower mount nut/bolt: 44NM

Dogbone Mount
- Dogbone mount bolts (2 bolts): 62NM

 

[Alex H]

Really good thread you wouldnt mind if I stole your idea and done one for other engines mate?

The other engines are covered in Haynes manual.

 

[Tigger]

Front Damper Top Mount: 20nm
Front Damper to Swivel Hub: 105nm
Front Carrier to Hub: ?
Front Guide Pin Bolts: ?
Front Calliper to carrier: ?
Front Hub Nut: 230nm (tbc)
Front Ball Joint Pinch Bolt: 30nm
Front Ball Joint to Wishbone: 62nm
Track-rod end: 37nm
Rear Damper (Upper): 20nm (tbc)
Rear Damper (Lower): 105nm (tbc)
Rear Hub Nut: 175nm
Rear Carrier to Hub: 100nm
Rear Calliper to carrier: 40nm
Road Wheels: 105nm
Steering rack mount bushes: 50nm


Can someone kindly confirm the highlighted values?

Cheers

 

[Fred@BTM]

front hub nut is 280nm
shock to hub (2 bolts) is 140nm

 

[Tigger]

How about the others Fred, are they all good?

 

[Fred@BTM]

i just do them up QFT normally

 

[ben lee]

flywheel bolts 55nm
clutch cover to flywheel 20nm
inlet manifold to head 21nm
exhaust manifold to head 20nm
downpipe to manifold 17nm
water pump 17nm
spark plugs 27nm
oil filter 20nm
lambda sensor 45 nm
knock sensor 20nm
front hubs 280nm
rear hubs 175nm
track rod end 37nm
steering rack mounts 50nm
brake disc to hub 20nm
front caliper to carrier 40nm
front carrier to hub 100nm
rear caliper to carrier 40nm
rear carrier to hub 100nm
abs sensor 8nm
road wheels 105nm

 

[Tigger]

Cheers Ben!

i just do them up QFT normally

Haha I think that's what most of my problems are on my wagon lol

 

[The Fatty]

Rocker/CAM cover - 8NM in sequence, (Laine_16v advises: 'If you dont have a low range torque wrench, finger tight + 1/4 turn has never failed me')

 

[Dan519]

rocker cover is 12Nm

 

[The Fatty]

rocker cover is 12Nm

thanks for the correction

 

[guysy]

Is this correct for the aux kit?

Idler 3.2 daN.m (32Nm)

Tensioner mounting bolt (hex) - 6.2 daN.m (62Nm)

Torx bolts on tensioner (on the spring) - 2.1 daN.m (21Nm)

? Going by the conversion: 1 DaNm = 10Nm

Is that correct?

​And 17Nm for the water pump bolts yep?

 

[The Fatty]

Spark plugs: 28nm

 

[chaski]

Can we progressively populate this guide with torque wrench settings so we have a one stop place for all know torque settings:

I've just come to this thread looking for some info and found it really helpful as a quick reference list so have book marked it. Would be good if we could get some more torque settings as well as geting everything double checked/confirmed that needs it. I've added some of the info from subsequent posts that hasn't been edited into the OP yet and tried to clean the list up a bit. Sorry if anything's in the wrong section or whatever, feel free to change it...! There's also a link to workshop manuals here

Engine & Exhaust

Engine
- Inlet Pulley (Dephaser): 100NM (Fred does them to 125NM as he doesn't trust it)
- Idlers: 55NM
- Cambelt Tensioner: 28NM
- Crank Pulley Bolt: 40NM + 110deg (there's 4 different values, but Fred uses that one, that equates to 130-140NM normally)
- Flywheel Bolts: 55NM
- Clutch Cover to Flywheel: 20NM
- Inlet Manifold to Head: 21NM
- Water Pump: 17NM
- Spark Plugs: 27NM
- Oil Filter: 20NM
- Knock Sensor: 20NM

Exhaust
- Exhaust Pulley: 30NM + 86deg (that normally equates to 125NM )
- Exhaust Manifold to Head: 20NM
- Downpipe to Manifold: 17NM
- Lambda Sensor: 45 NM

Engine/Gearbox Mounts

Upper engine mount:
- Mount bolts (4 bolts): 62NM
- Mount bolts onto engine (3 bolts): 62NM
- Central nut: 44NM

Upper Gearbox Mount
- Mount to gearbox (3 bolts): 62NM
- Mount/Battery Tray to Body (4 bolts): 21NM
- Mount central nut: 62NM
- Mount to battery tray (2 bolts): 21NM

Lower Gearbox Mount
- Passenger side lower mount nut/bolt: 44NM

Dogbone Mount
- Dogbone mount bolts (2 bolts): 62NM

Suspension, Steering & Running Gear

Suspension
- Front Damper Top Mount: 20NM
- Front Damper to Swivel Hub: 105NM
- Rear Damper (Upper): 20NM (tbc)
- Rear Damper (Lower): 105NM (tbc)
- ARB to Arm: 15NM

Running Gear
- Front Hub Nut: 280NM
- Rear Hub Nut: 175NM
- Road Wheels: 105NM

Steering
- Steering Rack Mounts: 50NM
- Track Rod End: 37NM

Braking

- Front Calliper to Carrier: 40NM
- Front Carrier to Hub: 100NM
- Rear Carrier to Hub: 100NM
- Rear Calliper to Carrier: 40NM
- Brake Disc to Hub: 20NM
- ABS Sensor: 8NM


Need Answering/Confirming:

Rear Damper (Upper): 20NM (tbc)
Rear Damper (Lower): 105NM (tbc)
Front Ball Joint to Wishbone: ?
Front Guide Pin Bolts: ?
Pivot(bush) Bolts: 90NM
Balljoint Clamp: 55NM


Please post any you know so I can add them on. if your not sure, please put (tbc) in your post

 

[chaski]

So, as this is in a pretty far flung corner of the forum, it's not really getting any traction/response, though quite a few views on the thread (probably via Google searches).

With that in mind I've started collating settings from other sources as well and put them into a Google Doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bm4lA93rLHlnkMVbX0fg3Cs4bS7_uFbHOBoFHi5M_OQ/edit

 

[chaski]

So, as this is in a pretty far flung corner of the forum, it's not really getting any traction/response, though quite a few views on the thread (probably via Google searches).

With that in mind I've started collating settings from other sources as well and put them into a Google Doc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bm4lA93rLHlnkMVbX0fg3Cs4bS7_uFbHOBoFHi5M_OQ/edit

Current list.......

This list has been compiled with information from internet groups (CSOC), forums(ClioSport.net), real world specialists, workshop manuals and Autodata for a 2003 172.
It is intended as a quick reference list and not a definitive or in depth guide; if you are in any doubt, read the bloody manual!

All corrections, suggestions and additions VERY welcome!!

**Whilst every effort has been made to ensure the settings are correct, use them at your own discretion!**

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Info
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± means plus or minus. E.g. 165° ± 6° means 165° of rotation, plus or minus 6° of rotation.

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Engine & Exhaust
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Engine Mount
- Central Nut: 44N·m
- Mount Bolts: 62N·m
- Mount Bolts to Engine: 62N·m

Engine
- Big End Bearings: 20N·m then 40°
- Camshaft Cover: 12N·m
- Camshaft Carrier/Cap: 12N·m
- Clutch Cover to Flywheel: 20N·m
- Compressor Support Mounting Bolt: 62N·m ± 6N·m
- Compressor Mounting Bolt: 32N·m ± 3N·m
- Cylinder Head Bolts: 20N·m + (165° ± 6°)
- Cylinder Head Cover Bolts: 12N·m
- Engine Tie-Rod Bolt: 62N·m
- Flywheel Bolts: 55N·m
- Ignition Coil: 9N·m ± 1N·m
- Injector Support Bolts: 21N·m ± 2N·m
- Inlet Manifold Upper: 11N·m 2N·m
- Inlet Manifold Lower: 21N·m
- Knock Sensor: 20N·m
- Main Bearings: 20N·m then 62° ± 6°
- Oil Filter: 20N·m
- Oil Pump to Cylinder Block: 25N·m
- Oil Separator Bolts: 13N·m
- Spark Plugs: 25-30N·m
- Starter Mounting Bolt: 30N·m
- Subframe Mounting Bolts:
- Front: 62N·m
- Rear: 105N·m
- Sump Plug: 14N·m
- Sump Bolts: 8N·m then 12-15N·m
- Throttle Housing: 13N·m

Exhaust
- Downpipe to Manifold: 17N·m
- Exhaust Manifold to Head: 18N·m ± 2N·m
- Lambda Sensor: 45 N·m

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Belts & Pulleys
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Cambelt & Pulleys
- Cambelt Tensioner: 28N·m
- Camshaft Phase Shifter Bolt: 100N·m
- Crank Pulley Bolt: 40N·m + 110° (Fred@BTM uses this value - Normally = ~130-140N·m)
- Dephaser Blanking Piece: 25N·m
- Exhaust Camshaft Pulley: 30N·m + 86° (Normally = ~125N·m )
- Idlers: 55N·m
- Inlet Pulley (Dephaser): 100N·m (Fred@BTM does them to 125N·m)

Auxiliary/Accessory Belt & Pulley
- Tensioner Mounting Bolt: 62N·m ± 6N·m
- Tensioner Spring Mounting Bolt: 21N·m ± 2N·m
- Pulley Bolt: 32N·m ± 3N·m


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Auxiliary/Accessory
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Air Conditioning
- Pressure Relief Valve on Evaporator Bolt: 6N·m
- Connecting Pipes on Pressure Relief Valve Nut: 8N·m
- Pressure Relief Valve Connecting Pipe on Dehydration Canister Retaining Bolt: 8N·m
- Condenser Connecting Pipe on Dehydration Canister Retaining Bolt: 12N·m
- Compressor Connecting Pipe on Condenser Retaining Bolt: 8N·m
- Connecting Pipes on Compressor Retaining Bolt: 8N·m
- Compressor Retaining Bolt: 21N·m
- Circuit Pressure Sensor: 11N·m
- Compressor Mounting Bolt: 32N·m

Alternator
- Mounting Bolts:
- Upper: 32N·m ± 3N·m
- Lower: 38N·m ± 4N·m
- Support Mounting Bolts (if looking at Windscreen):
- Front: 38N·m ± 4N·m
- Back: 32N·m ± 3N·m

Coolant Pump
- Support Mounting Bolt: 62N·m ± 6N·m
- Water Pump: 17N·m

Power Steering
- Pump Mounting Bolt: 32N·m
- Pulley Bolt: 8N·m

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Gearbox
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- Drain Plug: 22N·m
- Driveshaft Gaiter Bolt: 25N·m
- Mounts:
-Upper Gearbox Mount:
- Central nut: 62N·m
- Mount to Gearbox: 62N·m
- Mount/Battery Tray to Body: 21N·m
- Rubber Lower Mount Nut/Bolt: 44N·m
-Lower (Dogbone) Mount:
- Dogbone Mount Bolts: 62N·m
- Surround and Starter Bolt: 30N·m

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Suspension, Steering & Running Gear
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Suspension
- Front Damper Top Mount: 20N·m (?)
- Front Damper to Swivel Hub: 105N·m (?)
- Front Damper Base Bolt: 180N·m
- Rear Damper (Upper): 20N·m (?)
- Rear Damper (Lower): 105N·m (?)
- ARB to Arm: 15N·m

Running Gear
- Front Hub Nut: 280N·m
- Rear Hub Nut: 175N·m
- Stub Axle Mounting Bolts:
- M10 x 150: 57N·m
- M8 x 125: 29N·m
- Road Wheels: 105N·m

Steering
- Lower Ball Joint Nut: 42N·m
- Steering Wheel: 44N·m
- Steering Ball Joint Nut: 37N·m
- Steering Shaft Yoke Mounting Bolt: 30N·m
- Steering Rack Mounts: 50N·m
- Track Rod End: 37N·m
- Universal Joint Bolt: 25N·m

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Braking & ABS
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ABS
- ABS Sensor: 8N·m
- ABS Pipe Unions:
- M10: 17N·m
- M12: 17N·m

Calipers
- Bleed Screws: 6N·m
- Disc to Hub: 20N·m
- Caliper to Hub/Yoke Bolt: 60N·m
- Front Calliper to Carrier: 40N·m
- Front Carrier to Hub: 100N·m
- Rear Calliper to Carrier: 40N·m
- Rear Carrier to Hub: 100N·m
- Rear Rigid Pipe Union: 20N·m

 

[The Fatty]

excellent work chaski

Brian, jon_r, Nik - any chance of making this thread a sticky so we don't have to search for it each time our fingers are all dirty? thanks.

 

[Nik]

Done
chaski did PM me about this too. I'll look to feature it more on the new forum along with some of the other most useful threads / guides.

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[The Fatty]

thanks Nik

 

[chaski]

Cheers guys

I won't lie, reading the manual got both a bit confusing with regards to succinct ways to explain which bolt was which and where it's situated, so there's probably better descriptions to be had for some of them! It also generally got a little tedious after a while! Haha.

The list was a great idea though @The Fatty. It's got me thinking it might be good to do a parts # list as well somewhere. I know there have been databases/lists before but they don't seem to be working/hosted any more and attempted to include current pricing. A list of just the part numbers and what they are though would require a lot less maintenance and could therefore be left as a relatively static forum thread.

 

[MrBlonde]

I see there is a setting for steering rack mounts?.but what about the actual steering rack bolts that hold it to the subframe or is that the same bolts?

 

[bloke]

the head bolt torque listed are wrong!!!!

spoken to two people in the last two weeks who've done a head gasket and suffered from it weeping along the front edge.

head bolts should be torqued to 30nm and then the gasket left to compress, i normally hook the exhaust manifold in place and spin the nuts on by hand and then they should be torqued to 30nm AGAIN. then finally 180 degrees.

so 30nm
30nm again
180degrees.

 

[bozothenutter]

the head bolt torque listed are wrong!!!!

spoken to two people in the last two weeks who've done a head gasket and suffered from it weeping along the front edge.

head bolts should be torqued to 30nm and then the gasket left to compress, i normally hook the exhaust manifold in place and spin the nuts on by hand and then they should be torqued to 30nm AGAIN. then finally 180 degrees.

so 30nm
30nm again
180degrees.

any waiting in between the 30Nm and the 180deg?

 

[bloke]

any waiting in between the 30Nm and the 180deg?

Not after the second 30nm.

 

[JamesBryan]

Have the values been updated since the manual then?

 

[bloke]

Pass, not looked at what Renault say, think the figures came from autodata possibly? But have always done similar with mls gaskets. Seen plenty of people just do the one and then 180 and have weeping along the edge of the head/block.

 

[JamesBryan]

Not that much difference between 170 and 180 degrees in the grand scheme really.

 

[Acethepower]

I've searched for ages and can't seem to find the setting.

Does anybody know the torque setting for the rear beam bushes and the 6 carriage bolts that go through the body to hold the shackles on?

 

[Djw John]

RFT

 

[Acethepower]

RFT

Lol, I thought as much. Cheers.

 

[JamesBryan]

I've searched for ages and can't seem to find the setting.

Does anybody know the torque setting for the rear beam bushes and the 6 carriage bolts that go through the body to hold the shackles on?

60Nm

 

[Acethepower]

60Nm

Thank you !!!

 

[JamesBryan]

Thank you !!!

They're only M10 bolts, so it won't likely be much more than that.

 

[Mr Underhill]

Took a while to find these.

 

[dentillozie]

Does anyone know the torque settings for the bolts holding the cup alternator brackets to the engine?
the 3 bolt for the upper bracket and the 5 for the lower bracket?
thanks!

 

[Mr Underhill]

Does anyone know the torque settings for the bolts holding the cup alternator brackets to the engine?
the 3 bolt for the upper bracket and the 5 for the lower bracket?
thanks!

1. Alternator upper support mounting bolt - 38Nm + 0.4
2. Alternator upper support mounting bolt - 32Nm + 0.3
3. Alternator/block tie-rod mounting bolt - 62Nm +0.6
4. Alternator upper mounting bolt - 32Nm +0.3
5. Alternator lower mounting bolt - 38Nm +0.4

A lot of the bolts in the illustration won't apply to you but bolt number 3 goes directly into the block so i'd say 62Nm is where you'd need to be on all the other bolts from bracket to engine block.

The rest are between 32 & 38 Nm but you'll have to use your judgement.