172cup vs 172 vs 182 vs 182cup

[daviebroon]

apologies if this has been posted before...... but.... standard cars here....

what wins

1. round a circuit

2. in a standing sprint

3. 30-100mph+ through the gears

4.100-0mph



It is in my understanding that the 172 cup is the fastest (therefore bestest lol) in all stated above?

Thought id best know before embarrasing myself inront of another RS owner lol

 

[Pete]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[jon_r]

Could be a long day today.

 

[Rich]

He forgot 182 trophy in the ist post too!

 

[ukaskew]

So negligable it doesnt matter.

Seems like a fair response!

 

[Turkish]

a gnats c**k in it mate dont start an argument, bottom line is the driver will more than likely be the deciding factor.

 

[Dan_mk1]

There wouldnt be enough in it to split them. End of, lol

 

[Bezza4]

I thought today was going to be very boring. This thread could soon change all of that!

Yeah the 172 cup is the quickest!

 

[daviebroon]

lol.........





sorry guys.





the answer "too close to call it".... is fine for me. lol

 

[covkid]

Black ones are fastest

 

[Nightfire]

Pearl black ones are even faster

 

[littleone]

clio 210 is the fastest

 

[Andyvalver]

mk1s are faster than all of the mk2s

 

[Turkish]

Yeah with that 1/4 mile time im sure they are, lol

 

[y0z2a]

its all down to the pilot.

/y0z

 

[Evandim*]

well said y0z

 

[Munson]

If youre after paper figures, then I think the quoted 0-62 times of the 172Cup, 182Cup and 182 trophy are all 6.9s. AFAIK the the 182 is 7.1, and the 172 is 7.4? Not counting MkI cars.

So in theory the 172Cup, 182Cup/Trophy are the same, but I think the 172Cup has the edge 0-100. Basically theyre all the same really.

The real question is does the Trophy out-gun the 172Cup? Oh yeah and the Trophy is 5kg lighter than the Cup (182) and has a better front end setup.

 

[blink172]

Doesnt it all depend on whether Tiff Needel is driving and which one 5th gear is giving away?

 

[Dansta]

they are all crap. get a real car.

 

[Lee]

I reckon Top Gear should take a look at this thread and address is on the Top Gear track with the Stig driving each car. lol

 

[Dash]

Will we assume all the drivers weigh the same?

 

[Ambo]

^^^ and how many tools etc r in the boot! Oh yeah, what bout weight of fuel!!

 

[rcp]

the amount of fuel in the car will probably make more of a difference!

 

[daviebroon]

............ AND WASHER BOTTLE

 

[TomS]

Its going to be marginal isnt it

Just enjoy your R/S, whatever model it is!

 

[eves]

lol....here we go.



all bout the same really!

 

[Clart]

makes me laugh that people argue about .2 of a second. If Jon can own GT3s in his cup, it just goes to show that what car ur driving has little to do with it. all about the driver.

 

[Rufstuf]

Ones with gordini stripes are fastest lol

 

[Jay]

Quote: Originally posted by TomS on 23 June 2005




Its going to be marginal isnt it

Just enjoy your R/S, whatever model it is!

2nd!

 

[Lloyd v]

Quote: Originally posted by Lee on 23 June 2005

I reckon Top Gear should take a look at this thread and address is on the Top Gear track with the Stig driving each car. lol


lol! Now that sounds like a plan.. we should write to them..

 

[bigmouk]

The only way you could ever answer this is to have all the cars on the same day + rrd so the power matches the reno specs + have the same milage + have the same petrol + have the same tyres (make and tread) + have the same driver. Do about 10 runs in each and take the best time from each.

 

[Dave H]

No....its quite simple to work out.

If the air-cons on it drains power.....the 172 Cup wins!

Fancy asking if a 172Cup can be beat......it won last weeks Le-mans!

 

[Munson]

I was talking paper specs, since thats the only real seperation in performance terms. I dont see anyone arguing over 0.2 of a second??? LOL when all you full fat 182 boys start larging it up with comments about driver weight and fuel. Nobody in this thread has seriously argued that any of the cars is faster than another?

 

[badinvincible]

Quote: Originally posted by blink172 on 23 June 2005


Doesnt it all depend on whether Tiff Needel is driving and which one 5th gear is giving away?

FPMSL

 

[chris79]

Quote: Originally posted by littleone on 23 June 2005
clio 210 is the fastest


clio 211s are faster.

 

[Alex_225]

One thing I have noticed is that different sources on paper actually say different things.

What is the quickest 0-60 actually timed in a standard Clio (172/182/Cup) doesnt matter which model coz as said its such a minimal difference.

 

[chris79]

I disagree, Ive been out in them all and the only one which provides true "back in seat" g-force is the 172 cup. The rest are slow and their owners are just bitter and twisted that the cheapest is the fastest.













































only joking

 

[msa197]

But you all forgot they all have one thing in common!!!





























































Tyres is what wins and what do they all use