Morning all, i really fancy a set of itb`s and as i live near norwich im wondering who people recommend for throttle bodies and which ones ie jenvey or atpower ones etc, ive searched before anyone comments on that but i want to know over time who`s been happy with which company as feeling towards certain companies do change, looks like i have dan at 519 or tour de force near me, any help please.
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Fletcher
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I would go Dan at 519 automotive.
shiftspark
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R53 GR86
Dan 519.
Fletcher
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After what TDF did to Bigash I wouldn't/ don't trust TDF anymore TBH.
Megane r26
Bit off topic but who constructs the Ktec kit?
Jenvey.
TrackCar & F30 330d
Only person i trust to touch my car is Dan at 519Automotive!
Give him a call Telephone - 07561193814
Give him a call Telephone - 07561193814
Maccy, its in his 180 odd page build thread, but basically they lied to him and told him they did work they didnt, and they lied to him and told him parts were one thing when they were something else.
I'd pick Jenveys over AT Power personally, and as its so simple to do, I would just recommend providing people know what a spanner does they crack on and DIY it instead of paying a company to do something so simple on their car.
I'd pick Jenveys over AT Power personally, and as its so simple to do, I would just recommend providing people know what a spanner does they crack on and DIY it instead of paying a company to do something so simple on their car.
What chip said
Jenvey's over AT Power every time
I bought my Jenvey kit 2nd hand it took less than 4 hours to strip all the old inlet stuff off, fit the jenveys, wire the omex in and start the car lol
I'd have a crack yourself it's fairly easy to fit, if you order a proper loom from omex for a clio they apparently plug straight in. There's plenty of people on here will give you a base map (I can if you need one - that's if you go omex 600 - there's other ecu's you could use) - just bundle up the old loom out the way to get you running
EDIT: Actually if you get one of the K-Tec ecu's they just plug in and you keep your standard loom, then all you'd need is a base map to get started (K-Tec would send you one) and drive it to get mapped
Jenvey kit + K-Tec ecu and a days work would have you on the road running easy enough
Jenvey's over AT Power every time
I bought my Jenvey kit 2nd hand it took less than 4 hours to strip all the old inlet stuff off, fit the jenveys, wire the omex in and start the car lol
I'd have a crack yourself it's fairly easy to fit, if you order a proper loom from omex for a clio they apparently plug straight in. There's plenty of people on here will give you a base map (I can if you need one - that's if you go omex 600 - there's other ecu's you could use) - just bundle up the old loom out the way to get you running
EDIT: Actually if you get one of the K-Tec ecu's they just plug in and you keep your standard loom, then all you'd need is a base map to get started (K-Tec would send you one) and drive it to get mapped
Jenvey kit + K-Tec ecu and a days work would have you on the road running easy enough
Would people recommend the Jenvey/Ktec DTH solution over the older Jenvey manifold + generic bodies?
Its marginally easier to fit, but doesnt have any other specific advantages really.
Only speaking from my personal experience TDF have done two of my clios ( 182 and 197 ) with AT throttle bodies and the conversion was perfect. Only ever get commented on the tidy installation and the performance of the kits is more than satisfying. From my opinion I wouldnt trust anyone by TDF and I'm very picky with my motors, they done all my work from tracking to a custom engine rebuild and been spot on everytime, always go the extra mile too.
Having said that I think they're moving on from road based stuff into full on motorsport so it's another thing whether they'll even take the work on, but can't speak on their behalf. It's also difficult to ignore the simplicity of jenveys and a Gen90 from a DIY point of view.
Having said that I think they're moving on from road based stuff into full on motorsport so it's another thing whether they'll even take the work on, but can't speak on their behalf. It's also difficult to ignore the simplicity of jenveys and a Gen90 from a DIY point of view.
Evo 5 RS
Given where you are stick to 519. Dan is a seller of the Jenvey/KTR kit. I've personally had a decent experience with TDF in the past too. However firstly they only supply the AT kit which I don't recommend personally and also given recent events I'd have a hard time recommending them unfortunately.
Do you know roughly what page the problem starts on? I'd love to have a read as I missed it
.No idea, was a couple months ago now I guess, but there isnt much detail in there as James said he didnt want the thread to be a slanging match, so if you want really detailed accounts you wont find it.
Having spoken to him in person though, I'm gobsmacked at how badly he was treated
Having spoken to him in person though, I'm gobsmacked at how badly he was treated
If you fit them yourself, you could always go to somewhere more local to you like APT for mapping, you're quite lucky to have such a good tuner on your doorstep
http://www.ap-tuning.co.uk/
http://www.ap-tuning.co.uk/
106GTI / NovaC20LET
Have a look on ktec site they have a fitting guide on the diy body kit. its incredibly easy to fit. Save yourself a few hundred on fitting and get more mapping time
You'd have to ask him, but personally I would just go omex or similar anyway.
172
yes but that does not run the dash like the Gen 90 will it?? and also don't you have to splice into your standard loom
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Have a look on ktec site they have a fitting guide on the diy body kit. its incredibly easy to fit. Save yourself a few hundred on fitting and get more mapping time
They have a full set of videos - even shows you how to balance them.
I watched the videos on a Friday night - and fitted the whole setup in 4hours on the Saturday lol
The standard ECU will still run your dash.
Yes you need to splice a few wires, its pretty trivial though.
172
personally couldn't be arsed with that so id just get a GEN90
That's half true - it's just the 2 TDC sensor wires that splice into the standard loom BUT you are left with all your old loom laying around the engine bay and the dashboard lit up like a christmas tree and an MOT failure
If I was buying from new I'd get a GEN90 - plug and play into the standard loom, the only connector you wouldn't use is the FBW connector - and the dash works as it should with no warning lights
If I was buying from new I'd get a GEN90 - plug and play into the standard loom, the only connector you wouldn't use is the FBW connector - and the dash works as it should with no warning lights
We normally just splice into the standard loom for the injectors as well and for the VVT and coilpack and also for the other sensors, all neat and tidy then.
On a phase 2 172 or 182 though it will put the dash light on cause of the ETB, on a phase 1 like my turbo it doesnt do so though.
It's a bit destructive that though - no way of going back to standard without putting a new engine loom in
Not really, takes about 20 minutes to resolder the wirtes that have been cut.
Secondhand loom in good order is 100 quid or so tops IME, and like Dan says, its perfectly possible to just reconnect the wires you have cut anyway.
Generally though, I dont put cars back to standard once I have modified them, I tend to carry on modifying further if anything, and for that I would sooner have a good solid aftermarket ECU than one tied to the clio loom and sensors etc, like for example my mk1 I am intending to go honda engine later on, and when I do so I will just adapt the existing loom that I have built for the Autronic SM4 ecu it runs, and it will then run the Honda engine instead.
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and you do use the FBW connector, it's the MAP sensor plug you need to tuck out of the way
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yeecup
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mk8Fiesta ST,172 cup
so lets say u bolt on some jenveys with omex or gen90 and have it mapped, no other real mods other than exhaust, will you see a genuine 30bhp gain? i think if i was going down this route id get some 421 cams fitted as well for larger gains. or am i talking nonsense.
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