197 Wheel Vs 182 content

[Tom@JMS]

Yes, £18.00 from the dealership, although every wheel bought separately comes with one. Its only held on with a screw and is very easy to remove if you did not want it.

 

[howie p]

JMS

when will you be offering this wheel fitment as a drive in drive out service?

 

[Plummer]

Maybe I have mis-read, but do you's have the airbag?

 

[Rocky_24]

JMS

when will you be offering this wheel fitment as a drive in drive out service?

if you do offer this, im interested.

 

[Jamie]

I fitted a 200 wheel to mine and it wouldn't work. When tightened up the wheel will not return to centre position after driving. What have you done to resolve this issue.

 

[Marv-C]

Yes, £18.00 from the dealership, although every wheel bought separately comes with one. Its only held on with a screw and is very easy to remove if you did not want it.

Thanks. Mine had a new steering wheel under warranty just before I bought it. I think the Renault Sport plastic bit (for want of a better name) looks smart and sets the wheel of nicely.

 

[jack_davey]

I fitted a 200 wheel to mine and it wouldn't work. When tightened up the wheel will not return to centre position after driving. What have you done to resolve this issue.

I'm assumng this is due to rubbing against the plastic cover that the stalks emerge from?
Surely you could get a spacer machined up to clear the plastic box between the stalks?

 

[Jamie]

It's nothing to do with the plastic it's the metal on the end of the wheel. The 182 wheel is quite flat where it goes over the metal splines but the 200 wheel juts out quite a bit. It also has some reinforcers on it which don't help the problem as it's quite wide. You'd have to get the 200 wheel machined or shortened, well that's what I think. If it was just the plastic it wouldn't be a problem as the plastic wouldn't stop the wheel returning to centre.

 

[Tom@JMS]

I fitted a 200 wheel to mine and it wouldn't work. When tightened up the wheel will not return to centre position after driving. What have you done to resolve this issue.

We haven't done anything, the 197 wheel is a straight fit spline & depth wise, the only rubbing is ever so slight between the steering column surround & the back of the wheel, buts its only just audible, you can't feel it.

We hope to be able to offer this as a service, but we need to ensure the airbags are compatible first.

 

[Jamie]

Have you road tested it though, tried it? The 200 one is the same as the 197. There's nothing different as far as I'm aware. The problem only came to light when I drove it away.

I just want you to realise here, it does turn and work.... But, if you're driving and turn the wheel say to the right it turns right but if you let go of the wheel it will not return to centre like it should - just to clear that up. So unless you've driven it you wouldn't know.

 

[Tom@JMS]

Hi Jamie, no need to realise anything as I can ensure it does work as I have just returned from Brighton in the car, it fits perfectly well and has non of the symptoms you are experiencing?

 

[Jamie]

I can only presume the 197 wheel and 200 wheels are different then, but that would be very odd. Unless the guy fitting mine was doing something wrong which is kind of hard to do.

 

[Tom@JMS]

I think its safe to assume then that the depth of the 200 wheel fittings may well be different in that case. You mention you don't believe this is the case, but unless you have examined the two then there is really no way to tell.

 

[Jamie]

I'll just put some pics up to see if anything is evidently different to you by looks.

 

[Jamie]

 

[jenic]

This would seem to suggest they are the same, even if it is ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-CLIO-...CarParts_SM?hash=item35a7041b12#ht_551wt_1167

 

[Jamie]

I just find it hard to believe they would change it really. (The wheels that is the 197 to 200.)

 

[Tom@JMS]

Sorry guys I really can't help either way. Its not about believing or realising anything as the 197 wheel on my car fits, turns resistance free and operates the cruise control etc, last step is the airbag and we're home. Obviously I can't comment on what you have done / haven't done without seeing it.

 

[howie p]

We haven't done anything, the 197 wheel is a straight fit spline & depth wise, the only rubbing is ever so slight between the steering column surround & the back of the wheel, buts its only just audible, you can't feel it.

We hope to be able to offer this as a service, but we need to ensure the airbags are compatible first.

Could it be fitted without the airbag? momo's etc dont have them..

 

[Jamie]

I said "realise" as I didn't think I was explaining it well enough not that you were incorrect or dopey in any shape or form as you seem less than pleased with what I've put.

 

[Tom@JMS]

Could it be fitted without the airbag? momo's etc dont have them..

Well yes, but it would look a bit strange, and I for one would never fit an airbag less steering wheel in a car without harnesses.

I can see you're getting a bit arsey in your reply here tbh, which I'm not to fond of. I said "realise" as I didn't think I was explaining it well enough not that you were incorrect or dopey in any shape or form.

Sorry for coming across that way, I wasn't aware that I was?

 

[ForceIndia]

Shame it won't fit a ph1, or I'd be 1st in line.

 

[Tom@JMS]

I wouldn't be able to comment mate, never examined a PH1 steering hub closely - its it different?

 

[ForceIndia]

Yeah, ph1 and ph2 require different hubs for fitting aftermarket wheel.

 

[Tom@JMS]

Every day is a school day

 

[ForceIndia]

It's the bits at 3 and 9 o'clock, from memory the ph1 doesn't have them. I fitted the wrong hub, it fitted but weighted up massively. And the airbag is different ( 1 connector instead of 2).

 

[Cal182]

We hope to be able to offer this as a service, but we need to ensure the airbags are compatible first.

Really hope you guys crack this! Want rid of my melted 182 wheel.

 

[Marv-C]

Yes, £18.00 from the dealership, although every wheel bought separately comes with one. Its only held on with a screw and is very easy to remove if you did not want it.

Just bought one on ebay for £20.50 delivered :star:

 

[Tom@JMS]

 

[DrR]

That looks spot on!

 

[pritchard182]

looks lush

 

[Cal182]

That looks the nuts!!! Finished project now?

 

[Tom@JMS]

Yup, all working

 

[Cal182]

How was it toying around with the airbag?

 

[Jamie]

They are the same plugs for the air bag and horn. Only ones which need cutting are cruise.

 

[Tom@JMS]

Fiddly, along with the CC functions etc took a few hours to get right. We have a solution that we are happy with; airbag charge/circuit is all functioning perfectly. Need to validate some more details before even considering making it marketable.

 

[Tom@JMS]

They are the same plugs for the air bag

Nope, different plugs on the secondary fitting.

 

[Jamie]

What do you mean? On the one I had it connected upto the car without any problems. The only additional item was a earth to the air bag. There was also a small piece of plastic on the clip a little different come to think of it but I just trimmed that off and it clipped in.

 

[Cal182]

Very well done to you though! Have you a rough idea on what you think prices would be? When did you get it finished anyhow?

 

[jenic]

What do you mean? On the one I had it connected upto the car without any problems. The only additional item was a earth to the air bag. There was also a small piece of plastic on the clip a little different come to think of it but I just trimmed that off and it clipped in.

Also interested in knowing this.