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'92 172, Lotus Elise
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
cliolord will be after you
F7R A 700
oh well, maybe its telling you it needs an F7R 700
cliolord will be after you
F7R A 700
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
From the other thread:
From the other thread:
Audi TT 225 Quattro
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
i think you best stick to F4R's son:rasp: its F7R 700 ( or so dialogys says lol) cliolord is wrong
cliolord will be after you
F7R A 700
i think you best stick to F4R's son:rasp: its F7R 700 ( or so dialogys says lol) cliolord is wrong
'92 172, Lotus Elise
TVR Cerbera
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
It got so hot the expansion tank was shaking and boiling like a kettle!
It got so hot the expansion tank was shaking and boiling like a kettle!
Sunflower & Golf Mk6 BMT
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
150 is very high for extended periods of time especially for an old valver engine or at least its not recommended. Oil can fail at high temps. Just out of interest what oil were you using? Valver engines are very sensitive when it comes to oil, interms of a pressure, oil level, brand of oil and its rating.
Most valver drivers swear by mobile 10/40w semi syn.
I dont let mine go over 110, which normally allows me to get 8 laps and I dont run an oil cooler.
150 is very high for extended periods of time especially for an old valver engine or at least its not recommended. Oil can fail at high temps. Just out of interest what oil were you using? Valver engines are very sensitive when it comes to oil, interms of a pressure, oil level, brand of oil and its rating.
Most valver drivers swear by mobile 10/40w semi syn.
I dont let mine go over 110, which normally allows me to get 8 laps and I dont run an oil cooler.
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Silkolene Pro-S 5w/40, what was recommended to me by Opie and 5/40 is what most seem to be running. http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1146-si...nthetic-oil-for-high-performance-engines.aspx
110 is very low, mine reached that just pootling about once it was warm. Oil cooler on the next one i think.
Silkolene Pro-S 5w/40, what was recommended to me by Opie and 5/40 is what most seem to be running. http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1146-si...nthetic-oil-for-high-performance-engines.aspx
110 is very low, mine reached that just pootling about once it was warm. Oil cooler on the next one i think.
Audi TT 225 Quattro
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
most mine has seen on track is 115 deg max, thats an f7r with std oil cooler running 10w/40 semi synt. have used 5/40 also but was like water so burnt of abit quicker and made tappets even louder. i would be very very worried f i ever saw 150+
most mine has seen on track is 115 deg max, thats an f7r with std oil cooler running 10w/40 semi synt. have used 5/40 also but was like water so burnt of abit quicker and made tappets even louder. i would be very very worried f i ever saw 150+
Sunflower & Golf Mk6 BMT
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
The dude who I bought my valver from (and hand build the turbo conversion) said dont run fully syn and use 10/40W.
At a guess your oil was too thin to begin with, then as it reached the high 140's 150's became to thin for the poor old valver engine :dapprove:
Just a guess anyway mate could have been multiple things, but engine failure is normally something to do with oil not getting to the right places or lubing enough.
The dude who I bought my valver from (and hand build the turbo conversion) said dont run fully syn and use 10/40W.
At a guess your oil was too thin to begin with, then as it reached the high 140's 150's became to thin for the poor old valver engine :dapprove:
Just a guess anyway mate could have been multiple things, but engine failure is normally something to do with oil not getting to the right places or lubing enough.
ValverInBits
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Remember the first thing is said to get for a track valver:rasp:
Used to run 5W50 on mine, but decided it wasn't necessary after a while.
But seriously mate, If the gauge is reading correctly, 150 is too warm. Unlucky mate, hope you get it sorted quick n cheap
Remember the first thing is said to get for a track valver:rasp:
Used to run 5W50 on mine, but decided it wasn't necessary after a while.
But seriously mate, If the gauge is reading correctly, 150 is too warm. Unlucky mate, hope you get it sorted quick n cheap
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Right, we're back from page 3 with a long overdue update.
The Valver had its first trackday at Marham last month, just an airfield jobby to give the car a good shakedown. Things didnt start particularly well with my alternator giving up on the way down, so jump starting was in order for the weekend and putting my battery on charge when I wasnt driving.
Ignoring that hiccup, I was very chuffed with how the car behaved. Handled superbly, ran rings around most stuff in the corners (1*2's included) and was pretty nippy too. All in all a very good laugh!
Some pictures:
Then things went downhill
It all got a bit warm, cut out as I came into the pits and then refused to turn over once it'd cooled down. Result = 1 seized F7p! :clown:
So, I called for recovery which was luckily included with my Flux insurance and got towed out to the gate, of course someone had to film my misfortune lol
[youtube]Yc9Dt0FXcLY[/youtube]
More later...
Right, we're back from page 3 with a long overdue update.
The Valver had its first trackday at Marham last month, just an airfield jobby to give the car a good shakedown. Things didnt start particularly well with my alternator giving up on the way down, so jump starting was in order for the weekend and putting my battery on charge when I wasnt driving.
Ignoring that hiccup, I was very chuffed with how the car behaved. Handled superbly, ran rings around most stuff in the corners (1*2's included
) and was pretty nippy too. All in all a very good laugh!Some pictures:
Then things went downhill
It all got a bit warm, cut out as I came into the pits and then refused to turn over once it'd cooled down. Result = 1 seized F7p! :clown:
So, I called for recovery which was luckily included with my Flux insurance and got towed out to the gate, of course someone had to film my misfortune lol
[youtube]Yc9Dt0FXcLY[/youtube]
More later...
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TVR Cerbera
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
F7pT is a much better idea for later on..............
F7pT is a much better idea for later on..............
'92 172, Lotus Elise
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Recently rebuilt with Valver head, 2.0 Meg Bottom end, kent cams, vernier pulleys.
Recently rebuilt with Valver head, 2.0 Meg Bottom end, kent cams, vernier pulleys.
RB 182 Cup
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Jeez, I hope that was a joke!
Shame about the engine. Hope you get it sorted quickly.
Best cash price??
Jeez, I hope that was a joke!
Shame about the engine. Hope you get it sorted quickly.
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
I set about taking the old engine out again. 3rd time now and it seems to be quicker each time.
Car up onto stands. Wrong way round in the garage really but thats how recovery man rolled me down, and I have no means of turning it round.
2.6 degrees of camber
Greedy, me? Nahhhh
A few panels off
A few nice metallic flakes in the engine oil, lovely
Yep, thats 25l of oil I've wasted on this damn car! I also failed at saving the gearbox oil, as only 1.5l went into my tub
Rad/fan etc out. Also removed alternator as it makes it easier and it's f*cked anyway
Out
Interior shot
Also cleaned a wheel up with some petrol which took the paint off nicely. Weird/wonderful colour suggestions? 4 different colours? :clown:
I set about taking the old engine out again. 3rd time now and it seems to be quicker each time.
Car up onto stands. Wrong way round in the garage really but thats how recovery man rolled me down, and I have no means of turning it round.
2.6 degrees of camber
Greedy, me? Nahhhh
A few panels off
A few nice metallic flakes in the engine oil, lovely
Yep, thats 25l of oil I've wasted on this damn car! I also failed at saving the gearbox oil, as only 1.5l went into my tub
Rad/fan etc out. Also removed alternator as it makes it easier and it's f*cked anyway
Out
Interior shot
Also cleaned a wheel up with some petrol which took the paint off nicely. Weird/wonderful colour suggestions? 4 different colours? :clown:
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Picked a riggy F7p up from Foxy earlier today in a load of bits, along with about 19 exhaust manifolds too!
Head is off, so I'm going to re-lap the valves and fit new stem seals (cheers Winston) etc.
Dan, still thinking about yours too!
Picked a riggy F7p up from Foxy earlier today in a load of bits, along with about 19 exhaust manifolds too!
Head is off, so I'm going to re-lap the valves and fit new stem seals (cheers Winston) etc.
Dan, still thinking about yours too!
Re: Valver Track Car Project Thread
Made a start on the new engine/bits this evening.
Stripped most bits off the bottom end so that I could make an effort to clean it up and maybe paint it. Removed all the power steering pump assembly as i'm not using that.
Then I started on the head. Took all the valves out and put them to one side, keeping them in order.
Springs/retainers lined up
Valves
Collets, fiddly little buggers
Old valve stem seals, these will be replaced
Had a quick effort at cleaning the head up with petrol and all sorts of degreasers, some pretty stubborn marks on it though
Bit better
And we have wheel colour #1
Made a start on the new engine/bits this evening.
Stripped most bits off the bottom end so that I could make an effort to clean it up and maybe paint it. Removed all the power steering pump assembly as i'm not using that.
Then I started on the head. Took all the valves out and put them to one side, keeping them in order.
Springs/retainers lined up
Valves
Collets, fiddly little buggers
Old valve stem seals, these will be replaced
Had a quick effort at cleaning the head up with petrol and all sorts of degreasers, some pretty stubborn marks on it though
Bit better
And we have wheel colour #1
