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182cup & 172 racecar
Pics, or it didn't happen. 
Its under the cambelt cover and top engine mount. Perfectly normal.
But often people take pics of it before they have the top mount on as it can be easier to line up if thats not all bolted in place straight away.
Ie:
Evo 5 RS
Ah I see. Never really paid much attention before. Isn't the aux belt change a cam belt off jobbie too though? From the pictures I struggle to see why this would be the case. Or was it the other way round lol - that would make more sense.
Both those engines look mint!
SharkyUK
ClioSport Club Member
Tango-tastic! Can I have it, please? Looking good mate.
Other way around mate, you cant change the cambelt unless you take the aux belt off.
get to f**k!!!
Haha no mate it's spot on and so is the tensioner unlike the last engine!
Haha I thought the sameFred posting at 8.13
Thanks Mike
Haha I think I need to brighten it up a little moreTango-tastic! Can I have it, please? Looking good mate.
I'll swap you this engine for all the parts you are buying for yours :rasp:
YeahOoooof...
! Don't worry no substandard stuff is going back in!Thanks Russ! Haha I will hopefully keep it looking this good all season
Hopefully will have some diff news in the next few days! I'm hoping all done and ready to collect before xmasYeah
Thanks Russ! Haha I will hopefully keep it looking this good all season
Shhhhhhhuuusshhh,
I'll send you a PM ok.Regards Russ......
Update:
So over the last few weeks I have been sorting out bits for the spare engine (will be used for next season) The plan was to buy something in fairly decent nick and transfer the 421 cams over along with the throttle bodies, tweak the cam timing from how it was originally (was miles off what cat cams recommended to me) and then get the map tweaked to suit.
Firstly I got the new engine off the pallet and loaded it onto the engine stand for inspection. Luckily learning from my mistake the last time I collected an engine and filled the back of the van with oil I checked this one before tipping it upside down and sure enough it was full of oil too! The oil was fairly black so I was a little concerned but once I had the sump off the bores look ok, no crank end float, and the bearings were in good condition.
I am going to be incorporating oil pressure and oil temperature sensors into the new loom so I got my local engineering man to make me up an aluminium boss to be welded into the sump.
The sump was corroded and very coke'd up on the inside so I degreased it as much as possible and my welding chap welded the boss in, I then blasted the sump on the outside and put it through the dishwasher to clean it up good as new
I then removed the rocker cover to paint, this was done by masking up all the bolt heads to stop the bolt seats from being painted. It got etch primered and then sprayed in FF-Racing orange The block was painted black with VHT and I gave the head a clean up too.
Next up was to assemble the bits together to make sure everything fit okay. The alternator brackets had come back from powder coating so they were fitted but the length of the aux belt meant that once tensioned the alternator touched the underside of the ITB's which it used to do from when it was originally built but as with everything else BTM fixed this by running a slightly shorter belt which dropped the alternator and gave clearance so I did the same with the new brackets.
I then fitted the oil cooler take off and oil pressure tee but unfortunately when the tee is tightened it leaves the sensor hole where the oil filter is so I need to work out a solution for this.
The following day when all the paint had dried it was time to fit the cams and build up the rest of the engine. One of my friends (NorthloopCup) was up near Leeds so very kindly he offered to come along with his Renault timing tools and help me out and also teach me how to fit the cam belt. This went smoothly and I think I would now be able to manage it all on my own in future so massive thanks to Mark for that and all the other help he gives me Thanks also to Chip and Fred who both offered to come up and do the timing on the engine for me very kind of you to offer!
After this I refit the covers and then fit a new set of spark plugs along with a set of ARP rod bolts. Luckily I realised the torque figures on the rodbolts are in Ib/ft rather than nm as I was going to put them in at 42nm but then read it again and realised!
Then that was it really just a new sump gasket, fit the ITB's and then tension the Aux belt ready to pop it into the the car.
I have now ordered the gripper diff and all being well I am hoping to collect the gearbox from Agency before the xmas break so I can get the box painted and then fitted to the engine ready to go in the car.
All the parts came back from powdercoating so I will start assembling everything together next weekend.
The only thing that I haven't managed to get done to the deadline I set was the shell for welding and painting. I am still working on the setup for the front turrets so this is holding me back as i'm trying to work out the best way forward so the shell won't be going for welding and painting until January which I'm gutted about as I wanted to start the rebuild over xmas but this will still work out okay Wiring will start in February and when that is done then the car will be ready for shakedown! I make it sound so easy
Thanks as always for reading
James
So over the last few weeks I have been sorting out bits for the spare engine (will be used for next season) The plan was to buy something in fairly decent nick and transfer the 421 cams over along with the throttle bodies, tweak the cam timing from how it was originally (was miles off what cat cams recommended to me) and then get the map tweaked to suit.
Firstly I got the new engine off the pallet and loaded it onto the engine stand for inspection. Luckily learning from my mistake the last time I collected an engine and filled the back of the van with oil I checked this one before tipping it upside down and sure enough it was full of oil too! The oil was fairly black so I was a little concerned but once I had the sump off the bores look ok, no crank end float, and the bearings were in good condition.
I am going to be incorporating oil pressure and oil temperature sensors into the new loom so I got my local engineering man to make me up an aluminium boss to be welded into the sump.
The sump was corroded and very coke'd up on the inside so I degreased it as much as possible and my welding chap welded the boss in, I then blasted the sump on the outside and put it through the dishwasher to clean it up good as new
I then removed the rocker cover to paint, this was done by masking up all the bolt heads to stop the bolt seats from being painted. It got etch primered and then sprayed in FF-Racing orange
The block was painted black with VHT and I gave the head a clean up too.Next up was to assemble the bits together to make sure everything fit okay. The alternator brackets had come back from powder coating so they were fitted but the length of the aux belt meant that once tensioned the alternator touched the underside of the ITB's which it used to do from when it was originally built but as with everything else BTM fixed this by running a slightly shorter belt which dropped the alternator and gave clearance so I did the same with the new brackets.
I then fitted the oil cooler take off and oil pressure tee but unfortunately when the tee is tightened it leaves the sensor hole where the oil filter is so I need to work out a solution for this.
The following day when all the paint had dried it was time to fit the cams and build up the rest of the engine. One of my friends (NorthloopCup) was up near Leeds so very kindly he offered to come along with his Renault timing tools and help me out and also teach me how to fit the cam belt. This went smoothly and I think I would now be able to manage it all on my own in future so massive thanks to Mark for that and all the other help he gives me
Thanks also to Chip and Fred who both offered to come up and do the timing on the engine for me very kind of you to offer!After this I refit the covers and then fit a new set of spark plugs along with a set of ARP rod bolts. Luckily I realised the torque figures on the rodbolts are in Ib/ft rather than nm as I was going to put them in at 42nm but then read it again and realised!
Then that was it really just a new sump gasket, fit the ITB's and then tension the Aux belt ready to pop it into the the car.
I have now ordered the gripper diff and all being well I am hoping to collect the gearbox from Agency before the xmas break so I can get the box painted and then fitted to the engine ready to go in the car.
All the parts came back from powdercoating so I will start assembling everything together next weekend.
The only thing that I haven't managed to get done to the deadline I set was the shell for welding and painting. I am still working on the setup for the front turrets so this is holding me back as i'm trying to work out the best way forward so the shell won't be going for welding and painting until January which I'm gutted about as I wanted to start the rebuild over xmas but this will still work out okay
Wiring will start in February and when that is done then the car will be ready for shakedown! I make it sound so easy Thanks as always for reading
James
Whoooops :quiet: lolShhhhhhhuuusshhh,
Regards Russ......
Thank you very much
Haha thanks Simon! We will see what happens mate got to look at the grid as a whole instead of just one competitorWell done on building the engine, it doesn't look half bad
shiftspark
ClioSport Club Member
R53 GR86
Like it James, especially using the dish washer , which tablets did you use lol
shiftspark
ClioSport Club Member
R53 GR86
Yeah
Thanks Russ! Haha I will hopefully keep it looking this good all season
Did you get him (Russ) the 1:1 final drive he asked for
Haha I laughed when my welding guy told me to do it but he's right it works so well
Finish quantum FTW!!No I ended up getting him 5 reverse gears and one forwardsDid you get him (Russ) the 1:1 final drive he asked for
shiftspark
ClioSport Club Member
R53 GR86
^ not you it wont :lolup:
I hope my payments in the post :rasp:Cheers James that will give us a chance of beating him next year,
I was waiting for that
shiftspark
ClioSport Club Member
R53 GR86
he he only joking John...
Looks like you are getting a dab hand at building James, great work.
Looks like you are getting a dab hand at building James, great work.
Tut Tut Colin :nono: lol!
Haha lets see if the car works first but yeah much more confident doing stuff on the car now than 12 months ago! Can't wait to drive it again really miss blasting it round a track
Haha lets see if the car works first but yeah much more confident doing stuff on the car now than 12 months ago! Can't wait to drive it again really miss blasting it round a track
Yeah
Looking back on that day at Anglesey when I came off thinking your car really should have been a lot quicker than mine makes me feel so depressed now
On the upside - next year will be awesome
Love the work you've done, I need to get my rocker covers painted up and bigger trumpets fitted and etc.. etc.. etc..
Trying to find the motivation to go out into the garage in the cold though is failing lol - fair play to you!!
With the oil pressure t-piece could you use a copper washer so that it nips tight a bit earlier - or some more ptfe tape?
TrackCar & F30 330d
Very snazzy!
With all this painting you'll end up with and orange car with silver bits!! Not a silver car with orange bits
I'm only kidding, the bits and bobs are a nice colour!
Satisfying doing the work your self?
With all this painting you'll end up with and orange car with silver bits!! Not a silver car with orange bits
I'm only kidding, the bits and bobs are a nice colour!
Satisfying doing the work your self?
Clio 172
I can see by your pictures that you've picked up the BTM technique of putting tools in back their right place after using them....:rasp:
I can see by your pictures that you've picked up the BTM technique of putting tools in back their right place after using them....:rasp:
none of this dealership bullshit, motorsport fella, functional!
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
great great work mate,
fair play to you.
fair play to you.
Clio 172
I'll remember that next time I am finding a socket for you lol. But I wouldn't have it any other way.
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That's going to be very close to the subframe I think.
I think you may be right, he posted a photo of a trial fit of the engine on facebook earlier saying he had done something a bit silly and now needs a new sump haha
