BJ the Sliver PH1 Renault Sport Clio 172

[Michael Woodford MST]

Was origanally called BJA but when you say BJA quickly it just sounds like BJ anyway so its now called BJ.

Picked the car up in October 11 with a snapped cambelt and a couple of other problems.

The Orignal plan was to do it up and flog it but that did happen.

Once I decided to keep it the aim with this car was to build a car that could do long disctances comftabley but was also above avaerge round a track- An Ideal Nurburgring car.

The first spec was:-

Fully Ployflex Bush kit
Every ball joint replaced
Genuine Renault Cup dampers
Eibech Sportline Lowering Springs
Eibech camber bolts
Yokohama Prada Spec 2 tyres
Full stainless exhasut with silenced de-cat (very quite system)
Clio 197 cams
MWM ported Inlets
MWM Map
Raised rev limmit to 7800rpm
ARP Rod bolts

Heres some pictures:-

Cams going in

At the ring

Castle Combe spring action day

Parked next to my mates meggy in staines

The state of my house a couple of months ago

I was really really happy at the compromise between comfot and handling. The cup dampers and Eibech Sportlines are a fantastic fast road set up.

Next batch of work was this:-

Started with a 2nd hand Whiteline rear anti roll bar.

Then I replaced the steering rack mounting bushes. These are starting to become a problem on many 172's. They don't affect the grip as such, just make the steering feel really vague.

I got my hands on an exhaust manifold from the Clio 182 which gives much better torque in the mid range.

They are a total nightmare to fit as the whole subframe has to come off to get them in.

I then had to make my own custom link pipe to link it up to a 172 exhaust system.

I've started stripping the car down to fit the RS2 as well.

I have removed all the air con junk and and just waiting for the delete kit to arrive to delete the pump.

Got my air con delete kit on

And install an RS2 Inlet to get some more power

And this is its new power graph.

I also decided to fit some Cup wishbones to give it some more castor.

 

[Poopensharten]

Fantastic!

Whats with all the Clio's on your drive though?

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

So the poor Ph1 has been neglected of late.

After a little bit of other entousisatic driving round a roundabout in Milton keynes, I crashed. Nothing major, Just a bit of bent suspention and set the side airbag off.

Anyway, that car developed some other annoying faults, Notting major, just a spilt Pas hose and the sump gasketed started leaking. so i decided to take the car off the road and sort the little problems out to bring its car back up to top condition.

I managed to find myself a Clio DCI (Project thread coming soon) to use as a daily which meant I could up the spec on BJ as it was no longer needed for use everyday.

I sold the RS2 and the 197 cams and have brought some AT power throttle bodies, Some Catcam 438's and an Omex ECU.

I composed a list of everything i wanted to get done which looks something like this-

Replace rear beam
Get geo done
Shim rear beam
Get geo done
Remove engine
Fix sump gasket
Run new power steering pipes
Replace power steering pump
Fit 438 cams and new belt kit
Fit ITB's
Fit new gearbox
Wire in Omex
Fit Meggy injectors
Book dyno and map
Get wheels painted
Replace passenger seat
Cut wire to airbag light
Fit new steering wheel and boss
Fit spacers to drop column
Fit aero catches
Fit 2 new drive shafts
Take for MOT

Today the work started

Updates to follow shortly

 

[subarufreak]

lovely work!

 

[Dan@SJM]

I like the fact we've out chips engine in and yours has come out lol

 

[yeecup]

Nice. Is that the pms air con delete kit? The cheaper one? I'm thinking of getting one too

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Nice. Is that the pms air con delete kit? The cheaper one? I'm thinking of getting one too

yes mate, nice bit of kit!

 

[Nyall]

Awesome car, awesome stuff planned!

Keeping my beady eye on this, looks like it's gunna be an great build!

 

[Cw Tuning.]

Like where this is going!

 

[Mar172]

Hi mike

just looking into your thread and noticed you are doing to fit meggy injectors what are the gains over the std oitbs thanksitbs thanks

 

[Mar172]

iPad playing up wanted to know the gains from the meggy injectors from std with the throttle body's

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

The megane injectors can flow more fuel.

 

[Mar172]

Mike , why I have asked this is after the a/c delete and rod bolts have been done , my next stage is to go for throttle body's and a gen90 with my 438s with the Megane injectors would it run better than the std injectors apart from drinking more fuel . ?

 

[Christopher.]

Plans sound great, will be one seriously sorted Ph1 when finished !

Do you think its possible to fit the PM A/C delete without taking the radiator off ? My A/C rad has already been removed from the car.

 

[Bobby.]

Brilliant progress look forward to seeing how this turns out!

 

[Tez.]

Those ph1s need parking in order black one the blue then the 4 silver.

Why does that bug me. 2 Clios is the most I've had but if I had spare time and money I'd have a drive like that

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Mike , why I have asked this is after the a/c delete and rod bolts have been done , my next stage is to go for throttle body's and a gen90 with my 438s with the Megane injectors would it run better than the std injectors apart from drinking more fuel . ?

It won't run any different at low engine loads but once you start to load the engine the standard injectors would not be able to flow enough fuel which would damage the engine.

 

[Mar172]

Thanks mike that's good to know are we talking 225 magnate injectors, and how's bj going at the mow ?

 

[Jakey92]

That graph is awesome! If only I had the money

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

That graph is awesome! If only I had the money

Thanks mate. It was Sooooo nice to drive like that. I really hope the ITB's and 438's don't disappoint.

 

[Paul172sport]

Looks another good mw build coming up.

Im looking at getting that air con delete.

How much grief are the steering rack bushes? Thinking of save little more for poly ones?refreshing all mine this spring time iis there any benefit to replacing with oem or should I just save a little more for poly ones?

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Looks another good mw build coming up.

Im looking at getting that air con delete.

How much grief are the steering rack bushes? Thinking of save little more for poly ones?refreshing all mine this spring time iis there any benefit to replacing with oem or should I just save a little more for poly ones?

The rack bushes are quite easy to do once you've done a set. I went for OEM because there weren't any Polyflex bushes for the rack when I looked.

It's quite a strange feeling when they are worn, because the car still has loads of grip, it just feels really really vague. Almost like its floating along the road.

Best thing I ever did to that car was to renew the rack bushes.

 

[Djw John]

Now I know you're much more knowledgeable than me but from what I recall Meg 225 injectors massively overfuel (especially at low revs, to the point the engine will flood) With the standard ones being good for 240ish I'm interested into why you've gone for them.

Cheers

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Now I know you're much more knowledgeable than me but from what I recall Meg 225 injectors massively overfuel (especially at low revs, to the point the engine will flood) With the standard ones being good for 240ish I'm interested into why you've gone for them.

Cheers

I'm on Omex management. So I can map the fueling to get it exactly right everywhere.

I doubt the standard injectors are good for much over 205bhp. As at 200bhp my injectors were at 96% duty cycle at 13.5:1afr on the rev limiter where it made peak power.

 

[BIGASH]

Great project Mike Look forward to seeing how it goes with the ITB's!

Yes Paul @ Rstuning said the same to me about mine 200-205 is the most from the injectors. More money to spend

 

[Djw John]

Ah grand, cheers for clearing that up.

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Great project Mike Look forward to seeing how it goes with the ITB's!

Yes Paul @ Rstuning said the same to me about mine 200-205 is the most from the injectors. More money to spend

Cheers man. No where near as intense as your project.

Hopefully it will look standard a go like hell!

 

[BIGASH]

Sounds like a good plan Always better than looking quick and being slow!

You putting the 438's on standard timing or going to play around to try and make more power/torque?

Look forward to seeing it at Bedford

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Sounds like a good plan Always better than looking quick and being slow!

You putting the 438's on standard timing or going to play around to try and make more power/torque?

Look forward to seeing it at Bedford

See how it goes on standard marks first. If I'm not happy with the graph, ill have a twiddle of the timing.

 

[BIGASH]

Sounds like a plan Mike

 

[Stu.]

Nice thread, Will keep a watch on it! Ph1 heavan on the drive! haha.

The rack bushes are quite easy to do once you've done a set. I went for OEM because there weren't any Polyflex bushes for the rack when I looked.

It's quite a strange feeling when they are worn, because the car still has loads of grip, it just feels really really vague. Almost like its floating along the road.

Best thing I ever did to that car was to renew the rack bushes.

Did you buy these from renault? How much they set you back? Wish I'd done these with my engine out!

 

[Adamm.]

Very nice and lol at all those ph1's that pic was posted on the forum a while back.

 

[Michael Woodford MST]

Nice thread, Will keep a watch on it! Ph1 heavan on the drive! haha.



Did you buy these from renault? How much they set you back? Wish I'd done these with my engine out!

Yes. They are Genuine Renault. If memory serves me correct they were around £35inc vat each.

 

[Chip-mk1]

No going back now. Just found James stone cutting holes in the bonnet. Lol

 

[Christopher.]

Sooooo easy to do on a ally bonnet !

10 mins is my record

 

[Chip-mk1]

Sooooo easy to do on a ally bonnet !

10 mins is my record

James is more the sort to do it slow and fussy than try and set a speed record. He's still going.

 

[Christopher.]

LOL

Is that the first side ? Took me the best part of an hour to do the first one !

 

[Chip-mk1]

He's done both tops and one bottom now.

Being a ford man I'm surprised you didn't spot the backdrop though

 

[Christopher.]

Lol whats happening to the Ka, RST lump ?

I was looking though a couple of old fast ford mags yesterday and saw your yellow sierra

 

[Chip-mk1]

Rst lump?
look again