MarkCup
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Burpspeed Version 2: Race Car Build
- Thread starter Jay Payne
- Start date
182cup & 172 racecar
Hi John,Hi Tony,
Didn't realise you had a build blog. Car looks really good. You should have the longer extensions by now. Best of luck when you go to Tour-De-Force for mapping
John.
Yes extensions arrived and fitted thank you,also the airbox back plate arrived today and also fitted(tight fit indeed).Trying to measure (guess it) was not easy.Many thanks for all your help.Matt at TDF wants to try the shorter extensions if we have time on Sat just to see the difference,then I will send them back.
Tony.
shiftspark
ClioSport Club Member
R53 GR86
Damn! worth a try 
172 Race Car
The engine has done 108k and never been apart. We chose to use that one at first as it was well serviced with new belt and W/pump etc and went well in my old track car. Never had a problem before. We will be stripping it down at some stage to have a nose
Most Fords, Ka, Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo etc
Mk1 F4R
Good work guys might come see you when your down at oulton park day before fcs
172 Race Car
Sneeky peek of the car on the rollers. Proper updates to follow.
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ITB'd MK1
so.......sleepy.......zzzzzzzz
172 Race Car
182cup & 172 racecar
+2 and poor old Matt +++++3
182cup & 172 racecar
John,it's not finished yet we had some issues with it wanting to climb out the rollers,so put way behind schedule even though we were there all night.But good enough to test at Bedford Auto on Friday for a suspension set etc then back to TDF Friday afternoon for top end runs.Sounds pretty good I must say. All looks to fit in nicely too. I look forwad to seeing the graph and numbers. Good work.
John.
Will inform fig's etc after then,but looking good so far.
Tony.
172 Race Car
Small update:
Thursday, 11th February 2010 - Airbox
After some careful measurements (guess work) we ordered some longer extensions for the bodies. This is mainly for packaging reasons as the airbox was jut too tight a fit. They will bring the airbox into a better position on the engine.
The air horns that screw to the extensions are 60mm long. We got hold of a back plate for the airbox that was this deep.
Fitted to the trumpets and the air temp sensor fitted into the side of the box. A reducer fitted to the end of the airbox to a pipercross cone filter. The ali tube is a length of intercooler pipe from an old Subaru Time Attack car that Powerstation had lying around.
Thursday, 11th February 2010 - Airbox
After some careful measurements (guess work) we ordered some longer extensions for the bodies. This is mainly for packaging reasons as the airbox was jut too tight a fit. They will bring the airbox into a better position on the engine.
The air horns that screw to the extensions are 60mm long. We got hold of a back plate for the airbox that was this deep.
Fitted to the trumpets and the air temp sensor fitted into the side of the box. A reducer fitted to the end of the airbox to a pipercross cone filter. The ali tube is a length of intercooler pipe from an old Subaru Time Attack car that Powerstation had lying around.
R26
Burp, Tony, the car looks evil! love it!
lol, that's exactly the word I used to describe how it sounds!
221bhp/ton Mondial Terror
lol, that's exactly the word I used to describe how it sounds!
Like they say, great minds think alike! lol. When you getting your ast's fitted mate. Im at powerstation all day watchin my dads impreza getting maapped!
F4R'd ITB'd '92 cup racer
very impressed with the work that has gone into this
i will also be very interested to see the results of using this setup
i was toying with the idea of something similar (airbox over the trumpets, and then a air feed coming from the passenger headlight) but wasnt sure what effects it would have
mind you it cant be much worse that what i have at the min, my bonnet sits right over the front of the trumpets
i will also be very interested to see the results of using this setup
i was toying with the idea of something similar (airbox over the trumpets, and then a air feed coming from the passenger headlight) but wasnt sure what effects it would have
mind you it cant be much worse that what i have at the min, my bonnet sits right over the front of the trumpets
R26
Like they say, great minds think alike! lol. When you getting your ast's fitted mate. Im at powerstation all day watchin my dads impreza getting maapped!
lol, I dropped it off today so it should be there, I HOPE!
Not sure when Curtis is starting on it, im in no rush to get it back as Im away for two weeks from SUnday
221bhp/ton Mondial Terror
lol, I dropped it off today so it should be there, I HOPE!
Not sure when Curtis is starting on it, im in no rush to get it back as Im away for two weeks from SUnday
That sucks! not going to be able to enjoy it for abit then. Im up there on wednesday lol , so it might still be there when i go.
R26
I hope so. Let me know how far Curtis has got if he's started it
182cup & 172 racecar
172 Race Car
Sunday 14th Febuary 2010 - A Nightmare Weekend
Friday afternoon we loaded the car onto the trailer and set off for Tour-de-Force in Kimbolton.
We arrived and off loaded the very spluttery car. The car was having difficulty running and was misfiring. We quickly whipped out number 1 spark plug and it was very badly fouled up. Matt at Tour-de-Force quickly loaded another base map to stop it choking itself to death. It instantly ran better.
The car was then taken around to have a quick alignment done on it at a local specialist. After a long winded process of setting the throttle linkage up and ensuring everything was working ok, Matt drove it into his dyno cell to start the calibration.
It didn't like that! Something wasn't right. It just wouldn't drive straight on the rollers and kept trying to jump out. All thoughts of a curry that evening went out of the window. After several attempts to sort it by swapping tyres around and giving it a ton of toe in, it still wasn't happening. It was too dangerous to even try and do any work. We called it a night and returned the following morning, stuck it back on the trailer and went back to the workshop with our heads low.
After 4 hours spent in the workshop we were back on the trailer and heading on up to Tour-de-Force. We had checked and double checked everything. Nothing was majorly wrong but we made small adjustments to a lot of things, Subframe alignment, steering rack mountings etc. We took the car for a little test around the car park for 10 mins.
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Danny had come along to lend a hand and we used his camber gauge to realign it, the work we'd in the workshop had moved everything. Then the moment of truth. We tried it again on the rollers. It wasn't perfect but a 100 times better. Matt could now get on and cal it. A huge relief. Strapped down and off we go. After an hour or so the car was running well at low speed/light throttle. Running closed loop fuel correction the AFR was very accurate. With no cam shifter running, a basic spark map and rough fuel map we did some power runs. After checking the cam shifter was working and spending some time making some changes to the wiring loom, we called it a night. No where near finished but a nice safe setup so we can test at Bedford this Friday. After that we will go back to see Matt at Tour-De-Force to get the cal finished off and have some final figures. One problem after another but we are getting there.
Myself and Tony would like to thank Matt @ TDF for his hard work, well into the early hours. A true legend.
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Friday afternoon we loaded the car onto the trailer and set off for Tour-de-Force in Kimbolton.
We arrived and off loaded the very spluttery car. The car was having difficulty running and was misfiring. We quickly whipped out number 1 spark plug and it was very badly fouled up. Matt at Tour-de-Force quickly loaded another base map to stop it choking itself to death. It instantly ran better.
The car was then taken around to have a quick alignment done on it at a local specialist. After a long winded process of setting the throttle linkage up and ensuring everything was working ok, Matt drove it into his dyno cell to start the calibration.
It didn't like that! Something wasn't right. It just wouldn't drive straight on the rollers and kept trying to jump out. All thoughts of a curry that evening went out of the window. After several attempts to sort it by swapping tyres around and giving it a ton of toe in, it still wasn't happening. It was too dangerous to even try and do any work. We called it a night and returned the following morning, stuck it back on the trailer and went back to the workshop with our heads low.
After 4 hours spent in the workshop we were back on the trailer and heading on up to Tour-de-Force. We had checked and double checked everything. Nothing was majorly wrong but we made small adjustments to a lot of things, Subframe alignment, steering rack mountings etc. We took the car for a little test around the car park for 10 mins.
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Danny had come along to lend a hand and we used his camber gauge to realign it, the work we'd in the workshop had moved everything. Then the moment of truth. We tried it again on the rollers. It wasn't perfect but a 100 times better. Matt could now get on and cal it. A huge relief. Strapped down and off we go. After an hour or so the car was running well at low speed/light throttle. Running closed loop fuel correction the AFR was very accurate. With no cam shifter running, a basic spark map and rough fuel map we did some power runs. After checking the cam shifter was working and spending some time making some changes to the wiring loom, we called it a night. No where near finished but a nice safe setup so we can test at Bedford this Friday. After that we will go back to see Matt at Tour-De-Force to get the cal finished off and have some final figures. One problem after another but we are getting there.
Myself and Tony would like to thank Matt @ TDF for his hard work, well into the early hours. A true legend.
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ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Looking forward to seeing it on Friday, the work so far looks excellent.
TTRS & V50
I wish I was going to Bedford this Friday
+1 would be good to see it. Even though not finished your getting there.. keep it up.
172 Race Car
Wednesday 17th Febuary 2010 - Brakes and Stickers
With the first track test at Bedford a few days away, we are trying to get as much done as we can. We have been driving the car around on an old set of very rusty front discs, not a lot of good for circuit use. Using the standard calipers the choice of disc and pad was simple. High carbon brake discs from Brembo and Performance Friction (PF97) carbon metallic brake pads.
The dash top was fitted. We do need to finish tidying some wiring but this will do for now
We made a start on stickering up the car. Sponsors and supplier logo's as well as some safety and series required decals.
With the first track test at Bedford a few days away, we are trying to get as much done as we can. We have been driving the car around on an old set of very rusty front discs, not a lot of good for circuit use. Using the standard calipers the choice of disc and pad was simple. High carbon brake discs from Brembo and Performance Friction (PF97) carbon metallic brake pads.
The dash top was fitted. We do need to finish tidying some wiring but this will do for now
We made a start on stickering up the car. Sponsors and supplier logo's as well as some safety and series required decals.
R26
Starting to look like a proper racer! (from the outside that is!)
Keith185
ClioSport Club Member
Such a great and interesting read. Almost time to reap the rewards for all the hard work.
172 Race Car
I think it looks a little bit like 'Brum' We might be moving them stickers
(if I get my way)
Not a problem, we can just spray it again
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
I'm looking forward to tomorrow! Car looks cracking.
Mk1 F4R
Cars looking good i have to say
Does this mean im going to die when my car is back on the road lol as im running the same pads
How good are they and i think im going to have a big shock
Does this mean im going to die when my car is back on the road lol as im running the same pads
How good are they and i think im going to have a big shock
superbenji88
ClioSport Club Member
BMW M135i
Love it!
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
looks good jay / tony
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