Can i remove 182 oil filter without droppng oil

[matthewsimone]

Morning guys as title really
Will I be faced with a big mess if I don't drain the oil when removing filter?
Changed oil couple days ago but couldn't get filter off

Now have a decent wrench so ideally just want to swap the filter over and leave the fresh oil in there!

Thanks

 

[DannyR]

Well that was a silly thing to do wasn't it, should of just waited.

If car has been sat for a few days or so you "shouldn't" loose much.

 

[matthewsimone]

Yes ideally would have waited but needed the car and never saw the filter removal as being an issue 😂

Will jack front of car up again too which should help
Just cant be bothered with dropping oil again and needing another sump washer!

 

[DannyR]

You don't need to replace the sump washer

 

[R3k1355]

You'll dribble a little bit of oil out the filter, but nothing much - should clean up fine.
You'll need to double check the engine oil level after swapping the filter.

 

[RS Charlie]

As above.

However, what wrench do you have? A number will not fit without wrecking the sensors in the process. A fluted tool which sits on top of the filter of a stap tool (not chain ; it's too thick) seem to be the best ways to go about it.

 

[matthewsimone]

Thanks chaps ive tried a couple of different strap wrenches but no joy

Im going to hopefully get it off with one of the 3 leg universal ones that you use with a ratchet (link below)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/380991414420

 

[Crybert]

I find it crazy that you just completed the job without getting the filter off. Just hammer a thin crew driver through the thing and lever it off. Dead easy.

Anyway as said you won't loose too much, will maybe need a small top up after its done

 

[JamesBryan]

Don't hammer a screwdriver through it. If it shears off you'll be left with a piece you can hardly get hold of.

 

[Crybert]

Don't hammer a screwdriver through it. If it shears off you'll be left with a piece you can hardly get hold of.

It won't shear. Hammer a lon screwdriver through it so it comes out the other side then use that as a lever. I've done it a good few times and never had any issue. I'd be concerned if the filter was to shear..

 

[Turbo steve]

Old leather belt if you have nothing else, always have one in my tool box

 

[JamesBryan]

It won't shear. Hammer a lon screwdriver through it so it comes out the other side then use that as a lever. I've done it a good few times and never had any issue. I'd be concerned if the filter was to shear..

It's a pretty much last resort thing.

I've never had trouble with a decent filter wrench.

 

[Crybert]

Yes I always start with a filter rench but had to do the screwdriver trick on a Clio trophy and r26. Think the filters had been on for a good while

 

[matthewsimone]

I find it crazy that you just completed the job without getting the filter off. Just hammer a thin crew driver through the thing and lever it off. Dead easy.

Anyway as said you won't loose too much, will maybe need a small top up after its done

What's so crazy about it!
I drained the oil from Sump them came to remove filter but it wouldn't budge
That's generally the order you do an oil change on a car

Have put the fresh oil in and now hoping to swap filter out when I get suitable tool for the job etc

 

[matthewsimone]

Thanks for all replies chaps
Hopefully get it off tomorrow!

Anyone ever used one of the 3 leg type filter tools on the 172/182?

 

[R3k1355]

Anyone ever used one of the 3 leg type filter tools on the 172/182?

Yea it was a total c**t, good luck with that.

 

[R3k1355]

Go find one of these, it's supposedly the tits for removing the oil filter

Cup Oil Filter Wrench 76mm / 12 Flutes -single
SKU: 000980581£5.83

 

[Rubicon_]

I used a screwdriver yesterday getting one off, worked a treat.

 

[dangerous dave]

Screw driver it...

I've got a few filter wrenches and sometimes have to bust out Philip and the Thor. I'm sure some people use the wrench to fit the filters because they're tighter than a nuns bifter.

 

[ilovewilly]

It won't shear. Hammer a lon screwdriver through it so it comes out the other side then use that as a lever. I've done it a good few times and never had any issue. I'd be concerned if the filter was to shear..

I can appreciate where James is coming from. I once tackled a very very stubborn filter and the screwdriver eventually tore around the filter and left the base and a mangled mess of metal. Luckily it was just on an old block and I managed to chisel it off.

 

[matthewsimone]

All done chaps
Bought a 3 leg type this morning and off it cam
Was very very tight though

No oil lost either which is a bonus

Full Service complete
Rear brakes changed
All caliper sliders checked and re-greased
Car washed, polished and waxed

Thanks again
:up:

 

[R3k1355]

Screw driver it...

I've got a few filter wrenches and sometimes have to bust out Philip and the Thor. I'm sure some people use the wrench to fit the filters because they're tighter than a nuns bifter.

No I think it's something to do with the heat or something??
Happened all the time on my last car, it got serviced 2 times a year so the filter hadn't been on for very long, always primed the seal with a little old engine oil, always installed the filter by hand, never over-tightened it.

Every f**king time the filter needed a removal tool to get it off as it was on so tight.

I can appreciate where James is coming from. I once tackled a very very stubborn filter and the screwdriver eventually tore around the filter and left the base and a mangled mess of metal. Luckily it was just on an old block and I managed to chisel it off.

Done that before myself on a 306, was absolutely fuming as I needed the car to get to work the next morning.
Managed to get a chain-whip style one on the remnants and shift it off, was so relieved!!!