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Clio 172 Cup - Track Project

The FRP's look to sit really high, a bit like tractors tbh.

Yeah they do sit pretty high, but they are setup that way, to start messing with the ride height is to completely undo all the setting up that was done when they where first designed, tbh in the flesh they don't appear to look as high as in the photo.
 
29/07/2015

Right then been a long time coming, but pay day arrived and i treated myself to you a few new bits and pieces

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Seat was £165 delivered and the harness £114 delivered sub frame I had already purchased for £40.

So on to the fitting, I cut holes in the rear floor mat for the eyelets

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Old seat removed by removing the rubber grommets and nuts from the underside, quick hoover, and the frame fitted to the seat runners.

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Seat put in place and bolted

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Seat in place

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I have still to fit the side harness's which I will be doing in the next few days

I have also been informed with regard to the locations of the shoulder harness straps is very dangerous as in an accident the straps can pull down and injury the spinal cord, they need to be fixed at no greater than a 45 degree angle, so I won’t be using them until I have the cage fitted so I can fix them safely. This image indicates the safety angles

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Since fitting the seat I soon noticed that it sits about the same height as the standard seat which is far to high, I friend of mine has just sold his Clio RB 182 and has a difference style frame which sits lower which I have bought of him and will hopefully fit tomorrow.

Fixing plates arrived today so that I can fit the left hand strap to the turret. I will also be utilising the standard OE seat belt position for the right hand side.

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Hacked the front grill for the tow strap

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I forgot to get a photo with the strap fitted but it worked out pretty well.
 
30/07/2015

Okay so promised photo of tow strap fitted

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So removed the frame from the seat, quick photo showing the difference between them

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Drilled holes for the side harness straps

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I still need to get to the underside and fit the plates but they need adapting slightly in order to reach the bolt thread.

After fitting the new frame and resetting the seat the position is gratefully improved and is much lower:

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After:

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Comparison:

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Finally it feels like the driving position is spot on made the world of difference, went for a quick drive and it turned in to a half hour beating :)

There is a bit of a trick to get the angle of the steering wheel more horizontal with the use of some washers which I will be looking at doing next week.

Starting to come together:

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Also this evening I have managed to source some Eibach pro line springs for just £68 delivered which are a lot cheaper than new at £130.

There are two ranges Pro line and sport line, sport line has a lower drop and is more for looks where as the pro line is for a better handling setup, I have also enquired about purchasing a new set of standard Cup shocks.
 
05/08/2015

Few more parts have arrived, large washer to stop the dreaded knocking from the top mounts, eibach pro line springs front and rear and some bushes

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Next up replacement front shocks £70 and replacement lower arms with new bushes £100.
 
15/08/2015

Replacement front shocks, genuine Renualt ones:

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I have also ordered a cage which is due next Tuesday Anybody have an idea of cost to have a half cage sprayed? And can anyone recommend anyone?

Also going to order a second set of front standard second hand calipers which I will strip down and also have powder coated.

Going to go for yellow finish on the cage and callipers as it should tie in nicely with the other small yellow Sabelt items I have.

Oh and I have also ordered a set of the following in yellow

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18/08/2015

As the cage has been ordered and will be powder coated yellow, I decided today to paint the callipers yellow to match, as I don't think I will buy a spare pair for a while to have powder coated.

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Gave the car a wash as it hadn't had one for a while:

Before:

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During:

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Pile of all the kit ready to put on the car, instead of lower arms, I am going to purchase solid top mounts as after inspection today they seem okay.

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Car as I left it, going to polish and wax it tomorrow as well as finish of painting the callipers on the other side.

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As I wont be using the rear seat belt locations for the harness's, I have used them for the spare wheel straps, which look much better and is securing the wheel a lot better.

I am going to have all 5 wheels shot blasted and powered coated as its only £20 per wheel at Birmingham City Powder Coaters, can't decide if to stick with Anchrite or go with standard Silver.

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20/08/2015

I purchased this wrap for a few quid off eBay, as I was thinking I might wrap a couple of sections of the yellow roll cage, will trial it anyway to see what it looks like:

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Might look a bit odd but we'll see as I said its only a few quid.

Received confirmation that my roll cage will be delivered tomorrow and I am hopeful that the brake ducts and a few other bits will arrive.

Few photos of both cars, both looking clean :)

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25/08/2015

Few bits and pieces arrived:

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Got a cost on the cage being painted for £48 and will be done in around a week or so :)

Ducts fitted

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Not overly keen on the fog lights colour think its a bit much so I asked a mate to photoshop them black so I could see if it looks better:

Yellow:

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Black:

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Yellow:

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Black:

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What we reckon stick with the yellow or paint black?


Painted the callipers on the other side as well:

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He also sent this one to me

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Shock rubbers

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I have also managed to purchase some PMS top mounts for £110 rather than £140 so really happy, as soon as the last set of bushes arrive I can then go and get everything fitted:

Shocks
Shocks rubbers
Eibach springs
PMS top mounts
Steering rack bushes x 2
Dog bone mount
Rear spacers

Should feel fantastic.
 
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27/08/2015

Right thats the last part of the puzzle, all the pieces have arrived, now just need to find time when a mate has his ramp free to go and fit it all.

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Helet harness has arrived, trailed a temporary fit.

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This location will be changed to the cage I would have thought once fitted:

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Next time I have an update hopefully I will be really happy at the handling :)
 
Are those genuine cup wishbones mate? Might get some for my cup instead of returning mine then pressing the bushes out and that.
 
Can you tell me what length harness eye bolts you got and whether they were long enough - I see you mentioned you have to adjust the spreader plates to reach the thread?
 
Are those genuine cup wishbones mate? Might get some for my cup instead of returning mine then pressing the bushes out and that.

Yes genuine set of cup ones from a lad on FB Clio page, delivered for £120 and can get you his details if you want mate. For the cost of them and not knowing the history of car I thought I would get a replacement set knowing they are true and fresh lower ball joints and bushes.
 
Its the standard bolts that came with the harness, standard length from what I know, I can measure one for you tomorrow to confirm if needed.

I haven't adapted the plates as yet but will upload images to indicate how they need amending.
 
That would be great if you could let me know the correct length, I've got seats and subframes arriving over next few days so need to order eye bolts and plates. Good luck with the build.
 
Hi mate have you fitted the ph1 wiper stalk yet? I fitted mine and it didnt self cancel so i swapped the 'little white bit' with my ph2 wiper and now it catches when the wheel is turned. Massively annoying.
Let me know how you get/got on with yours... ta
 
04/09/2015

So cage in, pretty straight forward to fit, had to remove both seats in order to get it in, initially I though that its wasn't a great fit however after some pushing and shoving I managed to get it in correctly.

I actually used the two ratchet straps to hold it in place whilst I drilled the holes and fitted the plates.

Really happy with the colour and tied everything together nicely.

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Now I need to find time to fit all the other replacement parts as well as my new shifter that also arrived today.

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08/09/2015

Right so struggling to use mates ramp so decided to take on the work fitting all the new parts on the drive way, some what of a night mare but the majority of stuff pretty straight forward.

Car positioned and jack'd up,

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Needs to be a bit higher to sort the new shifter but was fine for making a start on the lower arms and bushes.

Should mention before making a start I drove up to mates work shop just so he could use a gun on the top mounts just to loosen them off

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Brakes removed:

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I have found out the reason for my braking issue, the calliper is seized on the inside pad, I will give them a really good clean up an try and get them back up to scratch , I have got a spare pair, that I intend on stripping and rebuilding when I get chance.

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Started off by removing the lower roll bar bushes, tbh the existing ones weren't to bad

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It was then on to the inner bush, now it was mentioned to me how much of a bugger these are to do but good god what a ****ing nightmare, it was hard enough getting the old one off, and near impossible to fit the replacement and do the bracket back up. I had to bend the bracket slightly ,use a ridiculous amount of grease and use a longer bolt to get it back on, took me over an hour to do, I am questioning if to do the other side as the one I actually took off wasn't in that bad condition.

If I don't replace it, I will get it done when next on a ramp, word of advice don't bother.

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It was then on to the new shocks, springs and top mounts:

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All setup and ready to go on, neighbour popped over and helped me compress the spring so that I didn't need the tool.

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On to the top mounts, marked up the holes and ensured that the holes are level each side in case in the future I want a PMS strut bar.

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One side all fitted:

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Had to adjust drill hole slightly on the drivers side but only by a couple of mm.

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So thats it for today:

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I need to borrow some spanners of a mate in order to undo the lower arm bolts.

So left to do:

Remove exhaust in order to fit new shifter
Remove and replace dog bone mount
Replace the rear springs
Fit rear hub spacers
Fit replacement lower arms
Resolve sticking calliper

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Anyone advise on the use of spacers for the front? I have a set of 20mm spacers spare, would you recommend fitting, I know it will make the car tram line pretty badly as it did on my 182 but will I gain in handling? I will have the 10mm rear hub spacers fitted also.
 
09/09/2015

Right few more bits done today, jacked up the rear of the car and removed the rear wheels as a local owner near me is taking a few sets up to Birmingham City Powder coaters so I have decided to get them refurbished as its only £20 a wheel.

All 5 tyres stripped at a local garage:

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I dropped the wheels of this evening and they are being taken up tomorrow, I have decided to go for silver as factory standard.

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Need to paint strip the centres

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Managed to also change the shifter today, only just got the exhaust bolts of as they started to round off

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Had some repayment high strength bolts so swapped them over.

Gaining access to the underside of the shifter

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Old vs New:

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All fitted :)

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I was facing some issues with the underside catching on the heat shields but the advice of the other owners was to try to re-shape the shields or just remove them all together, I managed to bend them in such a manor as to keep them and so they didn't rub.

Looking forward to using the shifter such great reviews from others who have upgraded.

Tomorrow I am hoping to fit the dog bone mount, rear spacers, rear springs and air filter, at which point that should just leave the lower arms, and refit the wheels once back from the powder coaters. Looking forward to the first trip out.

Took the Clio 182 for a drive this evening and I do hope the Cup drives as tight as its a great drive with the standard setup just with the cook sports springs, hoping for good things with all this work I have carried out.

Future plans:

Finish brake ducting and spray brake ducts black
Stealth exhaust with decat
Second bucket seat with additional harness
Refurbish spare front callipers and powered coat
Upgrade discs and pads
Fit flocked dash and flocked fan inserts (collect this Saturday)
Purchase new open face helmet
Get it on track and have some bloody fun
 
10/09/2015

So another few hours on the car this evening, my god the dog bone mount, after almost loosing a finger / thumb I finally managed to get the old rubbers out and replace with the new ones:

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Actually had to trim the edge down slightly to get the new one in:

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Finally in place

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Back on the car

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I than removed the bolt on each of the rear shocks in order to lower the rear beam so that I could fit the Eibach springs

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New ones fitted:

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I then removed the rear calliper so that I could remove the discs in order to fit the spacers, however my maximum socket was a 27mm and the large locking nut is larger

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So I left the callipers off and tomorrow I will borrow the correct sized socket

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Shouldn't take to long to change.

It was then on to the spare callipers that I have, I have started to strip them down as I plan on having them shot blasted and then powder coated in yellow at the same place that did my cage. Meaning that they won't corrode and will be easy to clean and maintain.

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The pads that they came with are pretty much new, however unsure of the make, will clean them up and see if they have any markings on them.

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So then whats left to do, well tomorrow I will have the lower arms changed and all bolted back up, will have the rear spacers on.

Then its a case of finishing off the replacement callipers, waiting for wheels to come back from being powder coated to refit, fit air filter and possibly fit the other nightmare bush which I am dreading but I know I should change it.

Oh and I also bought today some second hand braided lines for all four corners for just £25 delivered.
 
car looks great mate!
what kinda quality are those brake ducts and how do they fit? looking at getting some are they any good?
 
eBay job mate bit expensive for what they are as 3D printed but still good quality and a great fit. Will get you the link when I'm sober. They do three different types and 5 different colours from memory.
 
13/09/2015
Brake lines have been delivered

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New fuel tank for track days, yellow of course.

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Think I will making a suitable place to have it located behind the seat.

Mate dropped the large socket over I needed to remove the rear discs:

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Four bolts that need removing and replacing in order to fit the 10mm rear spacers

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Spacer on and disc refitted:

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Started on the other side but yet to finish, one of the heads has rounded off so it might need drilling out.

Fitted new air filter

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Repair to the cold air feed as the fabric had split

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Want to improve the ECU location and have it lying down on top of the engine mount eventually, similar as to how its shown in the second photo, however the outer case needs to be removed as it won't fit when air box is back on.

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Managed to get one of the lower arms off and swapped over, the ball joint was in a pretty bad way so glad I decided to purchase new arms, so that I know the inner bushes won't be an issue.

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However on the passenger side I hit an issue, the bloody bolt just spins on the hub to lower arm, I am going to have to remove the hub and take to a friends garage and ask him to cut / drill it off. Really annoying.

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So almost there now, just the rear spacer, hub bolt to remove and fit braided lines, then all the parts I have purchased will be on the car so as mentioned before really hoping for it to drive like new. Hoping to carry out more work this week.

I also purchased some DOT 4 brake fluid to refresh the system.
 
22/09/2015

Hub removed off the car and need to take it somewhere to get the nut and bolt removed, open to suggestions at this point as the nut just spins as the thread has stripped off

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Removing the canister,

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Need to block off the recycle pipes:

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Need to take brakes to a mates garage in order to use the air line to push the piston out the calliper, then I take them for shot blasting.

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Few more bits an pieces have arrived, as I have added 10mm to the read of the car I am also seeing how I get on with 10mm spacers on the front as well:

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New high carbon Brembo discs for around £40 delivered.

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Spare rear carriers to have shot blasted and powered coated when I get the front set done as well as Brake line removal spanners

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Finally managed to collect my flocked dash, best purchase so far in terms of cost, £25.

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Slight damage which won't be visible once its fitted.

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New fluid

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Wheels should be ready by tomorrow and I am hoping to have the hub issue resolved and the dash fitted before the end of the week.
 
23/09/2015

Managed to get the dash fitted today and the phase 1 indicator stalk

Really happy how it looks especially for the price.

As it started:

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In process:

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Removing old stalk, very easy, just two small bolts and then re-connect the wire block

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All done

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The harness nut does not fit in the existing seat belt point but I have been advised that I need the following fitment:

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Then later on this evening I went to mates garage so that he could help me remove the pistons from the callipers and remove the pinch bolt on the hub / lower arm:

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I misplaced a couple of bolts so I went to Jay's Clio bolt box

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He recently purchased a Trophy that was damaged at Castle Combe, had an ARB fitted so I have bought it off him, saving myself over £60 from buying a new one:

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He also had a spare front bumper arch, the one I'm missing:

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The Trophy also has solid engine mounts and if they are in good condition, I will probably buy them as well.

Injury sustained

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So tomorrow hoping to have ARB fitted and hub re-fitted.

Its really coming together now, wheels have been collected from powered coaters and are suppose to be looking excellent. Not sure when I will be collecting but hopefully in the next couple of days.
 
Good read :up: seems like your getting loads of decent bargain bits.
Good luck with the project..hope ️you pinned that blood blister! feel your pain:weary:
 
24/09/2015

So at lunch time today I picked up the V6 Airbox, pipping and metal plate, needs some reshaping as it was damaged in the accident.



Picked up some replacement pinch bolts at local motor factors £2 odd each

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Metal plate needing work

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Straighten out

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New pinch bolts fitted

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All bolted back up, been informed that the shock and hub bolts are in the wrong way round so will swap tomorrow, exiting calliper refitted for now and new Brembo disc with 10mm spacers.

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Wheels dropped back off this afternoon really happy in the colour this time around as a lot brighter, led to believe that they are BMW shade - possibly Moonshine.

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Will be seeing if I can get the tyres fitted tomorrow.

ARB Fitted, well one side, still need to get the other spacer fitted on the other side but bolts have rounded off

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Removed the casing off the ECU

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Photos show how I wedged it in position in case anyone else wants to take this route

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Trial fitted the air box, needs some tweaking

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More bits and pieces removed.

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Right then on to some help, after fitting the rear spacer, the bolts no longer line up for the rear carriers? I have checked and the disc is going back on properly but can't seem to figure out what has changed, any advice please?

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Tomorrow:

Finish Air box and metal plate, fit tyres and attempt to drill out stuck bolts.
 
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