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Clio 172 vs 106 gti
- Thread starter gregwilliams333
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Seat Leon Cupra 290
yeh i didnt really read the whole post, ah well,
a thirsty one
i was comparing pug models and range to renault model and range not gti v rallye or 172 v 182.
you own a s1 8v or s2 16v?
you own a s1 8v or s2 16v?
CX-7,westfield,ix20
Totally agree with the 'natural progression' comments.
I used to think straight line speed was fun until I got rod of my rover turbo and got my old 106 gti to save cash when I moved flats a while back.
Planned to run the 106 for a while then get somethin with BIG power again but it totally transformed the way I drive and think about driving if you know what I mean.
Did contemplate getting TB's for the 106 but need my car for work so wanted a relatively standard car (for reliability) - clio was the only car I found (and I tried a lot!) that could match the 106 for fun/handling etc.
Only other cars that were real contenders were elise and s2000 but couldn't get in the elise without the roof off and there wasn't enough room for my legs in the s2000 lol (I'm 6' 3" ish)
To some up the drivel I just wrote lol..
The clio is just a grown up 106 IMO
David
I used to think straight line speed was fun until I got rod of my rover turbo and got my old 106 gti to save cash when I moved flats a while back.
Planned to run the 106 for a while then get somethin with BIG power again but it totally transformed the way I drive and think about driving if you know what I mean.
Did contemplate getting TB's for the 106 but need my car for work so wanted a relatively standard car (for reliability) - clio was the only car I found (and I tried a lot!) that could match the 106 for fun/handling etc.
Only other cars that were real contenders were elise and s2000 but couldn't get in the elise without the roof off and there wasn't enough room for my legs in the s2000 lol (I'm 6' 3" ish)
To some up the drivel I just wrote lol..
The clio is just a grown up 106 IMO
David
They are both 8v mate lmfao !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A 106 Rallye is fu**loads better than any 1*2 cup or not
a thirsty one
yeah sorry blonde moment 1.3 in s1 and 1.6 in the s2 but both 8v always liked the look of the s2 in white with some white speedlines, when you say better in terms of cheap handling and thrills then yeah but as far as day to day performance and creature comforts (and safety) im glad i moved onto the 1*2 range.
Clio MK 4
i associate 106 gti owners as chavs :S
megane 285 sport
well ive raced two cups in my 172FF and smoked the both of them, i still think that 106 gtis am quick
Clio MK 4
I have to admit i love the looks of a nicely done up gti. Considered buying one before the 172
a thirsty one
ben p - crikey that must have been rapid, mine went bang as well after a garage fitted a new cambelt over tight and it sheared the woodruff key on the bottom crank/pulley and went bang. i was sat in traffic at the time it took about 4 inlet and a few exhaust valves out with it.
when it went boom i was considering cat cams and going the whole hog but couldnt get the money together so just repaired it instead.
when it went boom i was considering cat cams and going the whole hog but couldnt get the money together so just repaired it instead.
check this...
http://cars.yahoo.co.uk/resultsmaxi_100354123_15788224/Peugeot,Peugeot|106,Used_Cars
would say that it is pretty cut and dry really (assuming both are virtually standard)
http://cars.yahoo.co.uk/resultsmaxi_100354123_15788224/Peugeot,Peugeot|106,Used_Cars
would say that it is pretty cut and dry really (assuming both are virtually standard)
Mk4 .:R32
its not all about performance though. Fair enough the 106 gives a 172 a good run for it's money, std v std the 172 will win, looks better (imo) and less chav-esque. The 106's are only a similar speed as they weigh 200kgs less. So if you strip some weight and make a couple of engine mods to up the power:weight then 106's shouldn't be a problem
Astra van,Mk1 nova
Astra van,Mk1 nova
fill me in guys
, my mk1 16valver used to smoke them for fun, could not get beat for a while until the scooby boys came knocking lol, really cant see a 106 gti having the cup, not knocking the 106gti, very nice little cars when not chaved up
172 cup
I have a completely standard 53 plate 172 cup. My younger brother has a slightly modified 03 plate 106 GTi with lowered suspension, strut braces, induction kit and sports exhaust. We both do a lot of track days in our cars and our Dad's track prepared 350z so know how to drive fairly well.
This summer, just after buying my car, we did an evening session at Donington. I was expecting to have no problems beating my brother's GTi......didn't happen! I couldn't shake him off my tail all evening, they are amazing little cars considering they're a 1.6, group 12 insurance!!!
Still prefer my cup tho!
This summer, just after buying my car, we did an evening session at Donington. I was expecting to have no problems beating my brother's GTi......didn't happen! I couldn't shake him off my tail all evening, they are amazing little cars considering they're a 1.6, group 12 insurance!!!
Still prefer my cup tho!
CX-7,westfield,ix20
^^^Group 13 but agree with you...
Cracking cars for what they are!!
Had a race with a mate in his impreza when I had my old one...he pulled away but not by a lot!!!
Think he was as shocked as I was. I thought he was toying with me but he assured me he was trying lol.
Very easy car to drive fast aswell and even when you push it TOO far it's still very forgiving!!
Cracking cars for what they are!!
Had a race with a mate in his impreza when I had my old one...he pulled away but not by a lot!!!
Think he was as shocked as I was. I thought he was toying with me but he assured me he was trying lol.
Very easy car to drive fast aswell and even when you push it TOO far it's still very forgiving!!
I think it's all down to the driver.
I don't know if anyone remembers but, on 5th Gear many moons ago, when it was a decent programme, they pitted the 172 against a Saxo VTS around a track. Tiff Needell was driving the Saxo and that Butler-Henderson thing was drivng the 172. Needless to say, Tiff was pushing her round the track.... literally.
When it comes to the two cars, the power to weight ratio is quite similar so, with drivers of equal ability, it will be very close. I suspect the 172 might just edge away, ever so slightly, as the speeds rise to triple figures.
I don't know if anyone remembers but, on 5th Gear many moons ago, when it was a decent programme, they pitted the 172 against a Saxo VTS around a track. Tiff Needell was driving the Saxo and that Butler-Henderson thing was drivng the 172. Needless to say, Tiff was pushing her round the track.... literally.
When it comes to the two cars, the power to weight ratio is quite similar so, with drivers of equal ability, it will be very close. I suspect the 172 might just edge away, ever so slightly, as the speeds rise to triple figures.
Interesting discussions in here
Ive owned 4 106GTi's tuned to varying degree's and im not in ownership of my 1st ph2 172, and i can say there isn't alot really between them.
First of all the 172 is quicker hands down, yes up to 30, 100 or 130 whatever, however id say the GTi handles that little more so better, however I would like to point out ive seen many a VTS/106GTi run low 15's on pod days, and infact my first 106GTi pulled a 15.3 when it was 100% standard, since then ive rarely seen a 172 in standard form get much quicker than this really, certainly not enough to warrant the term 'tanked' anyway.
Mods on a GTi are leathal... my 2nd one remapped, decat, full system, manifold etc, seen a sub 15 standing quater, and could easily hold its own against 172's ph1 and ph2, id really wish it was still kicking around as id be interested to see if it's quicker than my clio
End of the day its horses and courses, personally theres very little in each, 172 quicker ever so slightly, but a couple of choice mods and the 106gti is more than a worth oponent
Ive owned 4 106GTi's tuned to varying degree's and im not in ownership of my 1st ph2 172, and i can say there isn't alot really between them.
First of all the 172 is quicker hands down, yes up to 30, 100 or 130 whatever, however id say the GTi handles that little more so better, however I would like to point out ive seen many a VTS/106GTi run low 15's on pod days, and infact my first 106GTi pulled a 15.3 when it was 100% standard, since then ive rarely seen a 172 in standard form get much quicker than this really, certainly not enough to warrant the term 'tanked' anyway.
Mods on a GTi are leathal... my 2nd one remapped, decat, full system, manifold etc, seen a sub 15 standing quater, and could easily hold its own against 172's ph1 and ph2, id really wish it was still kicking around as id be interested to see if it's quicker than my clio
End of the day its horses and courses, personally theres very little in each, 172 quicker ever so slightly, but a couple of choice mods and the 106gti is more than a worth oponent
