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Golf GTI PP Mk7
yeah but its got that huge fat front lip thing that looks like its been thumped in the gob.
The thing that you have to think about, is that weight kills any good car. Even if it does have another 15bhp over the current model, its a full 140kg heavier, which will mean it might be as fast, but it will never feel like it is.
The determining rule is that weight is the key factor to any car, and adding weight to an already great car can never do it any good.
I never thought I would be saying this but maybe I will go for the cup. But I doubt it will be what the 172 cup was to the 172, it will probably be more along the lines of the 182 cup to the 182. A lot of nice features removed, with no real gain in performance.
And £16k starting price? Thats what mine RRP'd at with over £1500 of options!
There is a bit of jealously in me that a newer model of my car is coming out, but depending on what it is like I don't think that I would own one.
Might move to something more powerful next time. I always fancied an Astra VXR. Or maybe I will sack the hot hatch and go for RWD
The determining rule is that weight is the key factor to any car, and adding weight to an already great car can never do it any good.
I never thought I would be saying this but maybe I will go for the cup. But I doubt it will be what the 172 cup was to the 172, it will probably be more along the lines of the 182 cup to the 182. A lot of nice features removed, with no real gain in performance.
And £16k starting price? Thats what mine RRP'd at with over £1500 of options!
There is a bit of jealously in me that a newer model of my car is coming out, but depending on what it is like I don't think that I would own one.
Might move to something more powerful next time. I always fancied an Astra VXR. Or maybe I will sack the hot hatch and go for RWD
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
polarbert said:The thing that you have to think about, is that weight kills any good car. Even if it does have another 15bhp over the current model, its a full 140kg heavier, which will mean it might be as fast, but it will never feel like it is.
The determining rule is that weight is the key factor to any car, and adding weight to an already great car can never do it any good.
I never thought I would be saying this but maybe I will go for the cup. But I doubt it will be what the 172 cup was to the 172, it will probably be more along the lines of the 182 cup to the 182. A lot of nice features removed, with no real gain in performance.
And £16k starting price? Thats what mine RRP'd at with over £1500 of options!
There is a bit of jealously in me that a newer model of my car is coming out, but depending on what it is like I don't think that I would own one.
Might move to something more powerful next time. I always fancied an Astra VXR. Or maybe I will sack the hot hatch and go for RWD
I'm also not to keen on the weight gain side of it, i think it will ruin it. At the moment the 182 is still my favorite.
r-jay said:
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/peugeot-207-geneva.htm
Peugeot claims that the new engine produces 202kW or 280bhp @ 8500rpm, which is almost unheard of in a road-going 2.0-litre vehicle without the use of turbochargers.
While the daring 207 RCup generates 202kW of power, Subaru's 2.5-litre Impreza WRX manages 169kW - and that's with the help of turbocharging.
Clio 172 Mk2
big hp said:
Yeah i was reading about the 207 R-Cup the other day, sounds very impressive but I cant see it being under 28k.
I cant see the point in a new renaultsport coming out if its not going to be faster with a higher price tag. Each revison of cars should be noticable quicker.
Next 3-4 years im probbley getting a Focus RS (or ST), Golf R32, depending how much money I have. Looks like Renault has fucked up with this.
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Got my copy of the mag through yesterday. The car looks ok IMO, nowhere near as nice/stunning as the Concept was. I'm liking the Brembo brakes...but not much else really does it for me.
Will be interesting to see how it compares to the current 172/182, performance and handling wise.
Will be interesting to see how it compares to the current 172/182, performance and handling wise.
FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
I hope they do a cup version of the 197 and hopefully they can work the magic again like the original 172 cup and shave maybe 100kg of the thing.Then you would have a proper car...
Also noticed that its 48mm wider at the front and 50mm wider at the rear so if they can make it lighter then you would have a real tight handling car with good power...
ian
Also noticed that its 48mm wider at the front and 50mm wider at the rear so if they can make it lighter then you would have a real tight handling car with good power...
ian
I'm still undecided - there's lots of little suspension changes that should work well so it may still be able to corner decently despite the increased weight. Guess we'll just have to wait and see!
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