Daniels Blue 182.

dann2707 · May 2, 2017

Literally just got home lads. Had a nightmare of a day!!! But I'm taking the positives from it. Had a duff injector giving us issues! Is definitely that as swapped it to 3 of 4 cylinders and each one didn't change note when disconnecting it. Stuck in standard injectors... Voila absolutely c**k on. So instead of paying full price for mapping on standard injectors Chris just mapped me quickly as a get me home map then I'll be going back when I have fully working 630cc injectors. I've also got a horrible vibration, not just from stiff mounts but it's like driveshaft related or something as it's dreadful. Had to drive home at 50 mph all the way hence me getting home so late. Car will be back and will be mapped fully. Shame about the injectors though as they were bought new..

Flat Eric · May 2, 2017

Just came on to read any updates
Shame it's not gone to plan
Take the positives from the day like said
Could have been a lot worse
Hope you sort the vibrate issue out

Mr Plums · May 2, 2017

dann2707 said:
Literally just got home lads. Had a nightmare of a day!!! But I'm taking the positives from it. Had a duff injector giving us issues! Is definitely that as swapped it to 3 of 4 cylinders and each one didn't change note when disconnecting it. Stuck in standard injectors... Voila absolutely c**k on. So instead of paying full price for mapping on standard injectors Chris just mapped me quickly as a get me home map then I'll be going back when I have fully working 630cc injectors. I've also got a horrible vibration, not just from stiff mounts but it's like driveshaft related or something as it's dreadful. Had to drive home at 50 mph all the way hence me getting home so late. Car will be back and will be mapped fully. Shame about the injectors though as they were bought new..

Sorry to hear that mate, cant you get a refund on the injectors?

Louis · May 2, 2017

dann2707 said:
Literally just got home lads. Had a nightmare of a day!!! But I'm taking the positives from it. Had a duff injector giving us issues! Is definitely that as swapped it to 3 of 4 cylinders and each one didn't change note when disconnecting it. Stuck in standard injectors... Voila absolutely c**k on. So instead of paying full price for mapping on standard injectors Chris just mapped me quickly as a get me home map then I'll be going back when I have fully working 630cc injectors. I've also got a horrible vibration, not just from stiff mounts but it's like driveshaft related or something as it's dreadful. Had to drive home at 50 mph all the way hence me getting home so late. Car will be back and will be mapped fully. Shame about the injectors though as they were bought new..

That's a shame mate, but atleast these problems have reared their heads now, rather than later down the line so you can sort it out properly.
Is the injector knackered electrical wise? As I know you have that cleaning rig, but if brand new you can surely get them replaced?
Think you'll trailer it there again?

imprezaworks · May 2, 2017

Clio_fool · May 2, 2017

At least it didn't go pop. Good luck sorting the vibration, I hope you fix it before mapping again so you can enjoy the drive home.

rainbird · May 2, 2017

Fix the injector but leave the vibration. Abi will thank you for it.

Chris_Beer · May 2, 2017

@dann2707 back on track - This is what these sort of projects are about, the good news is, when it's fixed, you will appreciate it far more. It's all about the work gone into it etc :smile:

I'd say an injector is hugely minor in the scheme of all the work completed mate, so well done :up: Get yourself another set or maybe two lots to be safe, and get it back up there once you've tracked the vibration. Did you ever change the solid dogbone (potential cause?)

Matt555 · May 2, 2017

Chris_Beer said:
Did you ever change the solid dogbone (potential cause?)

I'm still running my solid mount and it vibrates on idle, no issues on the move. Dan says the issue is when driving, potentially driveshaft related talking to him

bashracing · May 3, 2017

did the vibration not show itself on the dyno ?

rctempire · May 3, 2017

Glad it's running and all working, bar the injector it seems like a positive day.
Well done on your project Dan.

dann2707 · May 3, 2017

Louis' said:
That's a shame mate, but atleast these problems have reared their heads now, rather than later down the line so you can sort it out properly.
Is the injector knackered electrical wise? As I know you have that cleaning rig, but if brand new you can surely get them replaced?
Think you'll trailer it there again?

I'll drive it there next time I think but have to get the vibration sorted. Yes I think it is electrical wise as on the flow rig at efi it was showing to be okay. The company who I bought it off are asking me to send back so they can flow it to see if it's faulty... But I've already had it flowed and it flows well just not electrically stable so I'm going to be in uproar if it comes back as "ok" when it's not.

Chris_Beer said:
@dann2707 back on track - This is what these sort of projects are about, the good news is, when it's fixed, you will appreciate it far more. It's all about the work gone into it etc :smile:

I'd say an injector is hugely minor in the scheme of all the work completed mate, so well done :up: Get yourself another set or maybe two lots to be safe, and get it back up there once you've tracked the vibration. Did you ever change the solid dogbone (potential cause?)

Thanks, they're £200 a set so not cheap to get really. Dogbone is still solid but it's a rotational vibration, it's fine up to 30mph then the whole car feels horrendous.

bashracing said:
did the vibration not show itself on the dyno ?

Yes it did, Chris said it was actually hurting his feet on the accelerator pedal it was that bad. He was scared it was affecting the plates in the Dyno.

I'm a bit stuck now for a few months as I can't afford mapping again and Chris is fully booked up until end of June so it looks like I'll be sorting these issues for a bit first.

No cooling issues though which is nice.

NorthloopCup · May 3, 2017

dann2707 said:
I'll drive it there next time I think but have to get the vibration sorted. Yes I think it is electrical wise as on the flow rig at efi it was showing to be okay. The company who I bought it off are asking me to send back so they can flow it to see if it's faulty... But I've already had it flowed and it flows well just not electrically stable so I'm going to be in uproar if it comes back as "ok" when it's not.

Thanks, they're £200 a set so not cheap to get really. Dogbone is still solid but it's a rotational vibration, it's fine up to 30mph then the whole car feels horrendous.

Yes it did, Chris said it was actually hurting his feet on the accelerator pedal it was that bad. He was scared it was affecting the plates in the Dyno.

I'm a bit stuck now for a few months as I can't afford mapping again and Chris is fully booked up until end of June so it looks like I'll be sorting these issues for a bit first.

No cooling issues though which is nice.

You need to check driveshafts and clearance from the box to the chassis/subframe or anywhere else it could be tight mate. Is it on custom shafts?

dann2707 · May 3, 2017

NorthloopCup said:
You need to check driveshafts and clearance from the box to the chassis/subframe or anywhere else it could be tight mate. Is it on custom shafts?

Thanks for that, yeah it's on custom shafts.
I'm just very weary about how one side doesn't spin smoothly at all when jacked up. Ill try filming it tonight if I get chance. Maybe take the hub off too and see if spins freely without that compressing it.

@Mash. Did you have any issues like this when you had it? Were they made for a wider track car?

NorthloopCup · May 3, 2017

dann2707 said:
Thanks for that, yeah it's on custom shafts.
I'm just very weary about how one side doesn't spin smoothly at all when jacked up. Ill try filming it tonight if I get chance. Maybe take the hub off too and see if spins freely without that compressing it.

@Mash. Did you have any issues like this when you had it? Were they made for a wider track car?

That's the issue mate. I'd near enough bet a months wages on it. Sounds like the shaft is bottoming out in the joint to me.

When it's jacked up, undo the bottom ball joint bolts and remove them. If it spins free - there's your problem.

Which side is it? You might get away with shifting the engine and box over to gain some clearance.

Mash. · May 3, 2017

Nooo was fine was the gripper that was making the noise for me...

but I did run a roll centre kit -

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AdamCup · May 3, 2017

Hopefully your get it done 100% quickly and easily [emoji106]

How's your brakes and the pedal box working out ?

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dann2707 · May 3, 2017

NorthloopCup said:
That's the issue mate. I'd near enough bet a months wages on it. Sounds like the shaft is bottoming out in the joint to me.

When it's jacked up, undo the bottom ball joint bolts and remove them. If it spins free - there's your problem.

Which side is it? You might get away with shifting the engine and box over to gain some clearance.

Thanks you for the tip, I'll give that a go tonight. It was notchy on the drivers side iirc.

AdamCup said:
Hopefully your get it done 100% quickly and easily [emoji106]

How's your brakes and the pedal box working out ?

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Thanks Adam, they feel OK. I'm running old pads and very old discs so it's not stopping me well atm!

dann2707 · May 3, 2017

NorthloopCup said:
That's the issue mate. I'd near enough bet a months wages on it. Sounds like the shaft is bottoming out in the joint to me.

When it's jacked up, undo the bottom ball joint bolts and remove them. If it spins free - there's your problem.

Which side is it? You might get away with shifting the engine and box over to gain some clearance.

Just found a video on my phone from a while back that I sent to Steven on here! Check this out you can see the notchyness quite clearly I think

Matt555 · May 3, 2017

dann2707 said:
Just found a video on my phone from a while back that I sent to Steven on here! Check this out you can see the notchyness quite clearly I think

Mine doesn't do that..... unbolt the hub and check the shaft spins freely

bashracing · May 3, 2017

who made the shafts

Matt555 · May 3, 2017

bashracing said:
who made the shafts

Guy in Oldham who did Windle's, and mine (which snapped after remapping)

NorthloopCup · May 3, 2017

dann2707 said:
Just found a video on my phone from a while back that I sent to Steven on here! Check this out you can see the notchyness quite clearly I think

That's the issue mate

dann2707 · May 3, 2017

I wonder if it's because of the length. Going to try when I'm home. Just shopping

bashracing · May 3, 2017

exactly what I was thinking dan

leeds2592 · May 3, 2017

Yep, that's defo the problem in my professional opinion.

dann2707 · May 3, 2017

Massive thanks to Alex White for diagnosing, removed hub nuts and moved driveshafts in and out. There's absolutely no play in driver side. None at all. But on pass there is 30mm play. Engine needs to shift over to the passenger side 15mm ideally which is easier said than done!!!!

Jekyll · May 3, 2017

He's an absolute hero. Sorted me out many times!

Mr Plums · May 3, 2017

Dr Jekyll said:
He's an absolute hero. Sorted me out many times!

Did you hold his with such finesse?

Jekyll · May 3, 2017

Only orally on him, while tickling he's banjo with uber finesse as he's helped me out over the years.

incy-spider · May 3, 2017

dann2707 said:
Just found a video on my phone from a while back that I sent to Steven on here! Check this out you can see the notchyness quite clearly I think

Like Northloop is saying, that shaft is too long by the looks and the CV joints are fully compressed, I had a similar problem albeit not anywhere near as bad and had to change my n/s shaft for a shorter driveshaft when I fitted my lsd!

dann2707 · May 3, 2017

May have to cut it down or move the engine over. Check out the lack of play on driverside though..

bashracing · May 3, 2017

is the gearbox hard up against the chassis rail?

dann2707 · May 3, 2017

bashracing said:
is the gearbox hard up against the chassis rail?

Not too much, it's fairly close though! I'm thinking also of the boost pipes and all the other hoses that will be quite tight.

Reckon loosening the engine mounts and pry barring it across might do it? How much play would be acceptable inwards towards box? Could chop a tad bit off but I'm risking having the passenger too far out?

bashracing · May 3, 2017

try barring it across 15mm dan, just make sure the box has room to clear the chassis when moving under load.

(for reference 15mm = 1 penis length):up:

T.Trophy · May 4, 2017

Just had a read through nice job mate.

Welcome to the elite 1*2 F4RT+ND0 club.

Driveshaft wise when you remove it inspect the triple bearing as the symptoms your describing are the same as when it fails.

Djw John · May 4, 2017

Was just reading this, just food for thought.

dann2707 · May 4, 2017

Djw John said:
Was just reading this, just food for thought.

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They're deka Siemens ones that come from USA

thanks for the pic dude

Matt e · May 5, 2017

is it worth sending the injectors off to a third party to get them checked and get a report on them?

dont know if injectortune if are still going
http://www.injectortune.co.uk/Injector_Cleaning.html

dann2707 · May 5, 2017

So, I'm pretttttty much fucked for the time being.

I thought maybe the driveshafts were installed incorrectly so tried swapping them. Absolutely no chance.

The engine won't move over at all due to it being such a tight fit as it is.

There doesn't seem to be enough spline for me to chop the shaft down on that side. Plus, the passenger may be out too much as it is. So ideally it's a custom driveshaft set.

I'm going to give up for a bit as I can't justify £360 on some custom shafts. I've spent farrrrrrr too much on the car as it is.

f**king sucks after getting this far.

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