Detailing Chat & Questions Thread

[Joe#]

Lush! Pics?

Thanks pal! A few photo's from my project thread..

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?651263-Joe-s-Racing-Blue-Project/page16

 

[Coby.]

Ok guys planning on getting my car sealed and prepared for winter.

What would you use? Full decon will be carried out with IX, Tardis and Clay.

I have Tripple, Rejuvenate, Tough Prep, Tough Coat, C2v3, Temptation as well as a bunch of Waxybox samples :/

Too much choice for my brain to figure out what is the best route, Also have Eraser and the Nanolex sample from Waxybox so might slap that on the plastics.

Glass has G1 on it already although application may not have been perfect so might strip the rear screen and stick G5 on it as a test as I have just got that too

 

[Jaff.]

About to order hyper wash as a snowfoam.

i know I'm obsessing over this but 5 litres is a long time to be stuck wi something I possibly don't like lol.

i like magifoam, but hate the smell and isn't available on cyc. I want a change too so is hyper wash the way forward or do I get avalanche?

 

[Yellow Dave]

from watching the review from PolishedBliss they liked it but recommended it only for well protected or fairly clean cars IIRC. probably far better cleaners out there for that use

http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/meguiars-hyper-wash.html

From CYC maybe consider Valet Pro Advanced Neutral Snow foam or their Citrus pre wash. Or Autofinesse avalanche or Citrus Power. All of these can be used through pump sprayer or foam lance.

 

[Jaff.]

I currently use VP citrus wash on my car and I like it, then use magifoam.

My newest order has more VP citrus wash and hyper wash, but I do clean a lot of other cars that aren't that clean, but that's always before Il be polishing and protecting them.

also clay cloth - I really want one but its not on cyc

edit: http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washi...pro-advanced-neutral-snow-foam/prod_1087.html

advanced neutral foam from VP. Any good?

 

[Yellow Dave]

It's not bad, seems to work fairly well as a pre spray and foam

 

[Jaff.]

Gah!

sod it ill wait lol. Get a clay cloth instead

 

[Inequality Street]

I currently use VP citrus wash on my car and I like it, then use magifoam.

My newest order has more VP citrus wash and hyper wash, but I do clean a lot of other cars that aren't that clean, but that's always before Il be polishing and protecting them.

also clay cloth - I really want one but its not on cyc

edit: http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washi...pro-advanced-neutral-snow-foam/prod_1087.html

advanced neutral foam from VP. Any good?

I dislike AF Avalanche - I have about half a litre of it sitting in my collection that I doubt I'll be using again in a hurry, it does clean well, but I like the foamy clingyness, and that just doesn't cling at all. I also have Valet Pro Advanced snow foam, and thats my weapon of choice! Love the stuff.


If you want to try before you buy I could sort you out a small bottle of AF Avalanche if you want? Cover postage and it's yours

Ry

 

[Scrooge]

Gah!

sod it ill wait lol. Get a clay cloth instead

Make sure you use Louis Spence levels of lube!!!

 

[Jaff.]

Ry I may take you up on that although ive just read a write up about hilt hammer auto foam. And it seems to work better than magifoam. And for £17 its a lot cheaper too.

why so much lube Scrooge ?
Thought a bucket of shampoo to rinse it in was sufficient?

 

[Inequality Street]

Ry I may take you up on that although ive just read a write up about hilt hammer auto foam. And it seems to work better than magifoam. And for £17 its a lot cheaper too.

why so much lube @Scrooge ?
Thought a bucket of shampoo to rinse it in was sufficient?

No worries, drop me a pm if you fancy it.

I also heard the clay sponges leave a lot more marrrring on the paintwork, so I guess the lots of lube is to try and minimise this.

 

[Coby.]

Ok guys planning on getting my car sealed and prepared for winter.

What would you use? Full decon will be carried out with IX, Tardis and Clay.

I have Tripple, Rejuvenate, Tough Prep, Tough Coat, C2v3, Temptation as well as a bunch of Waxybox samples :/

Too much choice for my brain to figure out what is the best route, Also have Eraser and the Nanolex sample from Waxybox so might slap that on the plastics.

Glass has G1 on it already although application may not have been perfect so might strip the rear screen and stick G5 on it as a test as I have just got that too

Anyone able to lend an opinion on my dilemma?

No rush though as rain has stopped play, Got as far as claying whilst it was raining and now got to wait to see if it stops.

 

[Scrooge]

Ry I may take you up on that although ive just read a write up about hilt hammer auto foam. And it seems to work better than magifoam. And for £17 its a lot cheaper too.

why so much lube @Scrooge ?
Thought a bucket of shampoo to rinse it in was sufficient?

I use a small bucket with a fair amount of shampoo in at plus I spray diluted QD as I go. I'm a lot more careful with sponges and cloths compared to when I used clay.

 

[Scrooge]

Anyone able to lend an opinion on my dilemma?

No rush though as rain has stopped play, Got as far as claying whilst it was raining and now got to wait to see if it stops.

Full decon and prep with rejuvenate, seal with C2V3. Will be man enough in winter with the odd wash and top up of C2V3. Perhaps even get Hydro2.

 

[Coby.]

So simply decon then use Rejuvanate and C2v3? Easier than I expected then

C2v3 ok to spray on my wheels as I only have Poorboys wheel sealant otherwise and can't say I rate it much.

I'm running low on Iron X so if I place an order I may throw the Hydro2 in the basket as it seems quite the ideal product for the winter quick washes.

 

[Jaff.]

I use a small bucket with a fair amount of shampoo in at plus I spray diluted QD as I go. I'm a lot more careful with sponges and cloths compared to when I used clay.

but if your correcting afterwards...?

what cloth do you have?

 

[Scrooge]

Yep as long as you're careful with the decon stage, rejuvenate should be adequate to take any very minor damage caused by the clay and lay a perfect base for C2V3.

Do the same for you wheels and it'll be fine. Poorboys wheel sealant is uterly poor tbh. I used Sonax on mine and more than impressed!

 

[Scrooge]

but if your correcting afterwards...?

what cloth do you have?

You want to cause the least amount of damage as possible, always. More damage, = less clearcoat in the long run. You'll be surprised at how many microns of clear coat can be damged by incorrect decontamination.

I have one that cost me £40 from someone on DW, not a clue what brand as it's still in the jiffy bag it arrived in. I'm using a decon sponge atm, same principle.

 

[Jaff.]

Yeah I understand that but I'm not seeing how a cloth could be so much worse than clay.

providing you de iron and tar and you use a bucket of shampoo I can't see it doing huge amounts of marring.

does the time and cost saved make it worth it?

 

[Yellow Dave]

Coby, as you have it I'd use tough prep instead of rejuvenate under a sealant.

Chemical guys mild clay mitt seemed to work pretty well but only used it on my car once which is never really that badly contaminated, plus I won't be correcting after every decon session so I want minimal if any marring left. They definitely feel better to use with more lube. It is considerably quicker than using traditional clay, but the material used I can see why it would cause more damage than clay

 

[Jaff.]

The more I read about them the more I'm sold on them tbh.

just don't know which one to get

 

[Scrooge]

Coby, as you have it I'd use tough prep instead of rejuvenate under a sealant.

Chemical guys mild clay mitt seemed to work pretty well but only used it on my car once which is never really that badly contaminated, plus I won't be correcting after every decon session so I want minimal if any marring left. They definitely feel better to use with more lube. It is considerably quicker than using traditional clay, but the material used I can see why it would cause more damage than clay

Only said Rejuvenate as he is claying and may inflict a little marring which rejuvenate will nip out.

 

[cat171]

Yep as long as you're careful with the decon stage, rejuvenate should be adequate to take any very minor damage caused by the clay and lay a perfect base for C2V3.

Do the same for you wheels and it'll be fine. Poorboys wheel sealant is uterly poor tbh. I used Sonax on mine and more than impressed!

yup, it was a real f*cker to work with on my wheels. I had pink bits here & there & it was a real mare to get off! I won't use it again.

 

[Coby.]

Only said Rejuvenate as he is claying and may inflict a little marring which rejuvenate will nip out.

The paintwork was heavily swirled before claying, Really just looking for whichever will hold up best over winter and in spring I'll look at getting the paint corrected.

 

[Gally]

Yeah I understand that but I'm not seeing how a cloth could be so much worse than clay.

providing you de iron and tar and you use a bucket of shampoo I can't see it doing huge amounts of marring.

does the time and cost saved make it worth it?

Even claying marrs the paint so that cloth could be wild. I really don't like the idea of it for some reason.

Oh and citrus wash will affect lsp Jaff. So you know.

 

[Jaff.]

Even a ceramic coating gally ?

my reasoning for wanting a cloth is because it takes less than half the time, and when I clay I always polish afterwards so the only downsides to it would be potentially taking more an i need to off the clear coat

 

[Yellow Dave]

Only said Rejuvenate as he is claying and may inflict a little marring which rejuvenate will nip out.

IIRC rejuvenate and toughprep had similar levels of abrasives and fillers. Although applying by hand I personally didn't notice much cut at all compared to machine. I didn't find it lifted as much dirt as rejuvenate

 

[littlemissnaughty]

Af mint rims... Is this any good?
Or should I buy something else....
Ta all x

 

[Yellow Dave]

I had 4months from it on my winter wheels before I took them off the car, were still protecting then so worked pretty well.

Have you not got a wax or sealant already that's fairly durable to use n both pai t and wheels?

 

[Gally]

Even a ceramic coating gally ?

my reasoning for wanting a cloth is because it takes less than half the time, and when I clay I always polish afterwards so the only downsides to it would be potentially taking more an i need to off the clear coat

Well sort of. It depends what the coating is. Some ceramic coatings use a topping for performance. Citrus will ruin top ups.

My Strata like old C1 doesn't have a top up product so slightly different.

 

[littlemissnaughty]

I don't have any wax / sealant yet... So ideas for that also...

O c2v3 I have

 

[Joe#]

I had 4months from it on my winter wheels before I took them off the car, were still protecting then so worked pretty well.

Have you not got a wax or sealant already that's fairly durable to use n both pai t and wheels?

How would mint rims compare to something the the Poorboys one Dave?

 

[Inequality Street]

How would mint rims compare to something the the Poorboys one Dave?

I'm not sure on the Mint Rims front, but I own poor boys, and although it smells amazing, not too great. I'd imagine AF is better

 

[Coby.]

Poorboys is poor, Ive not bothered using it in ages.

 

[Yellow Dave]

As above really, there hasn't been many wheel sealants that perform well but mint runs did pretty well, as did colli 476 and FK1000. But then see my thread on proper wheel sealants with nano / quartz coatings.

Miss N, you could use C2 on wheels, pretty sure chappers uses it on some of his details

 

[Joe#]

Thanks guys. I actually have C5 in my garage somewhere. Which I'll use next year when I get my wheels refurbished, so I just wanted something for the time being really.

 

[Inequality Street]

Thanks guys. I actually have C5 in my garage somewhere. Which I'll use next year when I get my wheels refurbished, so I just wanted something for the time being really.

Poorboys does work, so is better than nothing. I'd compare it to one of the £10 waxes you can buy in Halfords, better than nothing, but pretty pants.

 

[lesley]

Poorboys is poor, Ive not bothered using it in ages.

Totally agree with this!

Just never found it that good & long lasting.

Used it once or twice then bought c5, been on there 18 months and still going strong. So easy to clean dirt & brake dust off

 

[Joe#]

Cool. I've got FK1000P so I might just use that.

 

[Lawro]

I was using C2V3 on my wheels for a while but didn't find it overally durable due to the temperature the wheels are subject to. It does work well for a few months but over the winter I would go for mint rims or FK1000p personally.