Detailing Chat & Questions Thread

[Yellow Dave]

got round to trying out AF Avalanche today. car was treated to tripple and toughcoat 3 to 4 weeks ago and not washed since.

now i didnt get that much dirt run off in the foam as it was well stuck on, initial once over with the pressure washer didnt really touch it either. what it did do is really soften the dirt a lot more than i typically find with magifoam. i guess working more like citrus power

not a bad product overal but would benefit from a little longer cling time to really get to work on thicker dirt as its quite a watery consistency over the shaving fom type of others

 

[Junior Bear]

That's what puts me off, but could the dilution be stronger to give better cling, or would it be too strong then


Really wanna try CG no touch

 

[Yellow Dave]

for those with a cheapy basic PW like my C110 Nilfisk it probably works better as the pressure isnt quite high enough to create that thick foam that the really good washers create. but i still got the cleaning power.

would i use it over CP, probably not but i think i can see myself using it over the autobrite foams at least until i upgrade to a decent washer

 

[497adam]

What are peoples thoughts on the Gilmour foamaster? and what foam would you recommend with them?

 

[Cliotoby]

What are peoples thoughts on the Gilmour foamaster? and what foam would you recommend with them?

Aside from the fact I think snowfoam is a total gimmick (Why anyone wouldn't just walk round the far with a spray bottle/pump sprayer filled with G101 and hot water I don't know) I think its a bit crap TBH. You do need a pressure washer to produce thick foam. In which case you should be either looking at investing in a pressure washer or a snow foam lance for one. Or just save your money and dont buy any lance, and buy G101.

 

[497adam]

I have a pressure washer but unfortunately cheap black and decker one that as far I know doesn't take a lance. Was just looking at cheaper option rather than buying a new one plus lance.

 

[Cliotoby]

Why do you want snowfoam exactly? Im not having a dig, I just dont want people to waste their money.

I still use my snowfoam lance and buy snowfoam after 5 years of ownership. But only to clean my caravan or conservatory. Occasionally I will use snowfoam to rinse a car after a machine polish to remove dust or oils.

If I want a pre wash, I mix a light ratio of G101 with hot water (Its a degreaser when hot) and spray it on with a sprayer, then pressure wash it off again.

 

[497adam]

Just to pre wash, Is G101 wax/sealant safe?

 

[Cliotoby]

Very. Just use a light dilution.

remember that any shampoo or cleaner will degrade the wax finish some what, but you can safely spray g101 (diluted) on a fresh coat of wax to shift some initial buildup and find it still sheets and beads really well. G101 really is great stuff. probably one of my favorite products.

 

[aucky]

I'm having a discussion on another forum with a guy who claims that;
-if an LSP adds to the finish, you've done something wrong in the prep/polish stage
-if polished correctly, LSP is simply for protection, not looks
-therefore wax is wax is wax.


Ermmm?

 

[Gally]

Yeah he's trying to be smart. 90 odd % of the finish is in the prep but a wax/sealant/ceramic can add to the finish.

Even a glaze can darken paint on a perfect surface.

Tell him to keep buying poundland wax as it doesn't matter. Or Collinites 476 because it last longer than Zymol Royale.

People forget there are so many different attributes to a wax over durability and looks.

 

[Gally]

I've done a 50/50 on a bonnet with old C1 on my Frp (no pics) and believe me, it darkens/deepens the paint.

 

[Cliotoby]

I've done a 50/50 on a bonnet with old C1 on my Frp (no pics) and believe me, it darkens/deepens the paint.

Fuckin A.

Noticed that on that Blue Z4.

 

[aucky]

He even offered someone a shine-off wager lol

 

[Gally]

Lols. Tell him to lighten up ffs!

 

[JD]

He even offered someone a shine-off wager lol

Is that code for wanking?

 

[James23]

I know a couple of people have applied af tough coat over tripple, so was just wondering how long its lasted?

I applied tc on bare paintwork all over bar the boot where i tried tripple under and the bonnet had amigo applied via da. Now the car is still beading a month later bar the boot, which seems unprotected after a couple of weeks? Any ideas?

I too have found that TC doesn't last that long on top of tripple. Tripple gets a lot of love on here but I'm not a fan of these AIO products.

 

[Junior Bear]

Is it sad that I've coated my bathroom sink with bouncers vanilla ice

 

[Cliotoby]

Is it sad that I've coated my bathroom sink with bouncers vanilla ice

Yeah. Im not joking either.

Im so tempted to coat my shower in rain racer.

 

[aucky]

I've done my bathroom tiles in FK1000 before

 

[JD]

Shower glass currently wearing G5, mirrors in RainX AntiFog, kitchen surfaces in C1/4/5 incl taps and sink, fabrics wear i1... need I go on

 

[peanuthead]

Hope this is the right place to ask... I am considering buying a DA polisher but after a bit of research am wondering if in need a paint thinkness gauge before I consider touching my car with one?

if so where is the best place to get a fairly cheap one from?

 

[aucky]

My boss hinted at getting me to detail his R8 last week. Very excite.

 

[Cliotoby]

Hope this is the right place to ask... I am considering buying a DA polisher but after a bit of research am wondering if in need a paint thinkness gauge before I consider touching my car with one?

if so where is the best place to get a fairly cheap one from?

You might get a second hand on on Detailing world. They get snapped up quick though.

Most people dont use one. Its bad advice for me to say don't bother because you never know how much clear your car has - they all vary and some repair or previous polishing work could have been done by previous owners leaving you with minimal clearcoat to play with.

Its up to you basically. If youre going to undertake heavy correction with wool pads or a heavy cut/compound pad then I think it could be worth investing. You could always sell again and accept a loss of a few quid. If youre just after removing some light swirls and marring then personally Id say f**k it and just do it.

 

[peanuthead]

You might get a second hand on on Detailing world. They get snapped up quick though.

Most people dont use one. Its bad advice for me to say don't bother because you never know how much clear your car has - they all vary and some repair or previous polishing work could have been done by previous owners leaving you with minimal clearcoat to play with.

Its up to you basically. If youre going to undertake heavy correction with wool pads or a heavy cut/compound pad then I think it could be worth investing. You could always sell again and accept a loss of a few quid. If youre just after removing some light swirls and marring then personally Id say f**k it and just do it.

How much should i pay for a secondhand one? 100-150?

Im not going to use anything to aggressive on my car, but then if I did get a DA would probably use it on my bro M3 and MPS so might be worth getting one.

 

[Hixle]

Hello chaps. Going to order some AF Tripple today, as well as a few other goodies. Would I see any benefit in applying Amigo afterwards, followed by my LSP? Or just go from Tripple to the LSP?

Fanx x

 

[Gally]

I would just go Tripple then Lsp mate, they have glazing properties anyway. Amigo will add to it slightly and make it slicker but it's an extra step.

 

[Hixle]

Cheers Kev. As you know, I'm no serious detailer, so would buying Tripple almost make my bottle of Amigo redundant?

 

[Gally]

Not really, it's just a really modern SRP so on another occasion ie better weather a nice coat of Amigo and Lsp would be cool.

 

[Hixle]

Sweet. Are you impressed that I'm using detailing acronyms?

Just hoping that the weekend is rain free now!

 

[Gally]

Lols! Very impressed! I'll reply to your text in a bit!

 

[Cliotoby]

Lols! Very impressed! I'll reply to your text in a bit!

but I want you to text me

JD texts me......

 

[Cliotoby]

How much should i pay for a secondhand one? 100-150?

Im not going to use anything to aggressive on my car, but then if I did get a DA would probably use it on my bro M3 and MPS so might be worth getting one.

I cant remember, check the sale threads out on DW mate youll get an ideal. once youve got one youve got one.

Its as black and white as my previous post mate. i dont own a gauge, and ive polished numerous cars and only ever fucked my own up, because i was wet sanding. Also, I rarely have to deal with paintwork thats properly fucked and usually Gtechniq P1 and a lake country green pad is enough to sort anything out.

 

[Scrooge]

How much should i pay for a secondhand one? 100-150?

Im not going to use anything to aggressive on my car, but then if I did get a DA would probably use it on my bro M3 and MPS so might be worth getting one.

Be careful with the MPS they have very thin paintwork.

 

[Cliotoby]

Whats with the "sponsored by auto finesse" bit?

 

[JD]

James has been suitably clever and paid CS to sponsor this section. Good move. But only because I work in advertising and like his style

Edit; that's a guess by the way, I don't know anything about the cost/deal/if there was a cost etc

 

[Hixle]

I need to buy more AF stuff. Well impressed with what I've tried so far.

 

[Scrooge]

I ordered a few AF bits a few months back and all i've used so far was the metal polish and I wasn't that impressed

 

[Chapppers11]

What did you use it with mate?

MF's?

It's my go-to metal polish, nothing stands up to it.

 

[Scrooge]

Yep microfibres, also used it with a bit of wire wool and high grade paper on something too.

No different to any other metal polish i've used if i'm honest.