Detailing Chat & Questions Thread

[JackJack]

Is that a wrap?

 

[200 Alex]

Is that a wrap?

Yeah it's a wrap. Proving a nightmare to get off.

 

[Bluebeard]

Chaps...

I recently cleaned my Radiant Red Orion using AG paint renovator, CG 3n, AG SRP topped off with Auto Finesse Spirit Wax.

The car has been parked outside in the sun/rain and I want to get it MOT'd and back on the road next week.

What are the best products to use to clean it but without damaging the waxes on there at the minute? Ideally I want to get it as shiny as I had it last time but i'm assuming using SRP again will rub the wax off?

I'm lost tbh, any help greatly appreciated.

 

[Gally]

Just washing it with a nice shampoo Dan. If you have time, dry it then go over it with the pinnacle mist I sent you. It's superb or another QD you have.

 

[Yellow Dave]

SRP will remove a wax to some extent. A ph nuetral shampoo and quick detailer wipe down will look like youve just waxed it again

 

[C.J]

Bit of advice lads.

Noticed when locking the garage tonight, the bonnet had half a dozen marks (not a typical swirl, more of a square caused by a straight rub). I think I've done this by rubbing bird s**t off the car with a damp mitt.

So I just applied Amigo by hand (1 coat), and managed to improve it.

What products/techniques would you recommend next? I've got Amigo/Z2/Z6/Z8, and will be by hand.

I'm thinking of getting some Gtechniq P1 and a FP1 pad.

This is the after, on my phone:

 

[Gally]

You don't have any machine CJ?

Carpro fixer is better by hand than P1 I found. Never really did get on with P1.

It really needs machine polished by the looks of it. Some products like Amigo and Tripple will help hide these marks though.

 

[C.J]

You don't have any machine CJ?

Carpro fixer is better by hand than P1 I found. Never really did get on with P1.

It really needs machine polished by the looks of it. Some products like Amigo and Tripple will help hide these marks though.

Nope, no machine for me. Might see if someone local fancies a go on it if by hand won't budge it.

Can you link me to some Carpro Fixer? Can't see it on Elite or CYC.

 

[Gally]

See the sticky at the top of this section mate. Discount code on there aswell.

 

[Bluebeard]

Just washing it with a nice shampoo Dan. If you have time, dry it then go over it with the pinnacle mist I sent you. It's superb or another QD you have.

Ok cool, cheers mate.

SRP will remove a wax to some extent.

Gotcha, thanks.

 

[Mark-F]

at the weekend i did my usual after a month or so: wash, SRP, supernatural wax.

the question... AF tripple and sealant, can i go over that, or clay, tripple, coat, wax? i mean, do i need to strip it all back to get the best out of the AF?

ta in advance

 

[C.J]

See the sticky at the top of this section mate. Discount code on there aswell.

Cheers

Applicators: MF, Terry, or Foam pads?

I currently use all 3, then a MF cloth to buff off.

 

[Mark-F]

Cheers

Applicators: MF, Terry, or Foam pads?

I currently use all 3, then a MF cloth to buff off.

foam pads boss.

i mean, if i wash again and put tripple, hard coat then wax, will it make much difference considering i put a layer of wax on last saturday?

 

[200 Alex]

foam pads boss.

i mean, if i wash again and put tripple, hard coat then wax, will it make much difference considering i put a layer of wax on last saturday?

Layering up waxes and sealants will always 'enhance' the finish. Making it more and more glossy each time you apply

 

[Mark-F]

Layering up waxes and sealants will always 'enhance' the finish. Making it more and more glossy each time you apply

cheers, ill be all over it like a rash on saturday morning!

 

[Scrooge]

Yer it's the Saab Scott, such a f**king mess!

 

[Jaff.]

As I'm bored and thinking about it can anyone give me some tips on keeping a new car fresh from day 1?

i have a megs da and a varying range of chemicals to crack on with but what's the best method or what would you do?

The colour is ford spirit blue if if makes a difference?

 

[aucky]

Decontam, light polish, IPA, seal/wax

 

[Jaff.]

Auto glym HD wax good enough?

What about the wheels? Worth getting some more c5?

 

[aucky]

HD is pretty good, just go for thin layers, don't let it cake on.

As long as you can do the prep properly, C5 (or other permanent sealant) is the only thing worth you're time on wheels. I'm due to due by annual clean/C5 this week

 

[Yellow Dave]

at the weekend i did my usual after a month or so: wash, SRP, supernatural wax.

the question... AF tripple and sealant, can i go over that, or clay, tripple, coat, wax? i mean, do i need to strip it all back to get the best out of the AF?

ta in advance

I've not used supernatural so don't know how tough it is, but tripple will go some way to remove a little of any previous wax layers underneath it.

As for layering, it can affect durability if they don't work together. You should NOT put a sealant over a wax, but you can layer a wax over a sealant. The problem is getting them to bond together.

 

[aucky]

For reference, I got six months from SN over jetseal.

 

[Gally]

SN is a strong wax, it has gassing issues like Glasur but they are bold old school waxes so to speak. High carnauba content.

Jaff is I ever bought a new car it would be coated in ceramic sealants from day one, everything would be done, wheels, plastics and paintwork. Easier said than done of course but i'd pay to get it done if I didn't have the knowhow or products.

 

[Jaff.]

SN is a strong wax, it has gassing issues like Glasur but they are bold old school waxes so to speak. High carnauba content.

Jaff is I ever bought a new car it would be coated in ceramic sealants from day one, everything would be done, wheels, plastics and paintwork. Easier said than done of course but i'd pay to get it done if I didn't have the knowhow or products.

It has crossed my mind but as I have limited knowledge on how to apply them and I don't think it would be wise to do it myself.

how much would you say it would cost roughly for someone to do that?

 

[Gally]

Protection details aren't that expensive mate. What area are you in? Maybe have a google and send some emails.

Maybe £200-£250 for the full works, obviously you'll probably want a 1 stage polish to nick out some shocking factory/dealer prep but shouldn't cost the earth.

 

[Jaff.]

In Swansea South Wales mate.

wouldn't mind paying £250 for it tbh but it could well be tight as I'm doing house and car at the same time so the money could be needed elsewhere.

Certainly something to look into. Recommend anyone? I was going to have a guy from Cardiff (name escapes me now) come and do my megane. That was £350 for a teaching detail

 

[Gally]

Hmm, why can't I think of anyone from Wales! :S Lols. JD will help us out no doubt!

 

[imprezaworks]

Did you get the message ref the wax?

 

[Jaff.]

Cool, ill await some more input

dont mind traveling either mind, new car and all that ill be living in it for the first few weeks lol. Obviously there's more chance of it getting stinking then though

 

[Gally]

Did you get the message ref the wax?

Me? No mate.

 

[imprezaworks]

Strange. Only seeing if you had posted the wax out, want to try it over the weekend

 

[JHead]

So my order from PB of AF Tripple, AF Lather, and Imperial arrived yesterday, is there any point me using tripple without decontaminating the car first? (it's never been done before) and atm i only have tardis.... Suggestions?

 

[Gally]

Posting today mate. Not sure if you have seen the snow up here for the past few days. The Trophy doesn't going anywhere on Ad08s sadly!

 

[Coby.]

Nothing too special but happy with the beading after using AF Tripple, Tough Coat and I slapped on some Temptation just cos it was new and I wanted to use it

Once the weather picks up I'll give the car a full going over OR try and get someone to carry out a paint correction on it but don't know of many folk in East Anglia who could do it.

 

[C.J]

foam pads boss.

Cheers. I'll stick with the megs foam pads I have.

Any comments on one of these? (for amigo/Z2) http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/handi-grip-foam-applicator.php

 

[Gally]

They'll be okay but not at that price. Z2 is best applied with these...

http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/I4D_Detailing_Product_Applictor_Pad_1.html

It's the I4 version of the Zaino one. Amigo works well with the German style applicators.

 

[imprezaworks]

Posting today mate. Not sure if you have seen the snow up here for the past few days. The Trophy doesn't going anywhere on Ad08s sadly!

No worries. Hopefully get it by Saturday

 

[Jon.G]

Still waiting on PB stock updates

 

[C.J]

You don't have any machine CJ?

Right mate, I've decided I may need a machine. I'm looking at this, and reviews on DW seem to think it's a good entry level machine.

I've got Amigo & Z2. Are these enough, or should I get something else (Menzerna)?
Would I need other pads?
Do I need a backing plate?

I've never used a polisher, so don't want to make any errors. I assume I'd use the machine for polish only.

 

[Gally]

No that's not a good entry level polisher mate. That's a way to teach yourself how to hate polishing a car.

I would start off the Ep801 or a DA polisher mate.