Detailing Chat & Questions Thread

[Mr R.]

That's the one I've been looking at, have you used it? If so, how'd you find it? Can it just be used with water/shampoo or does it need lube?

I've only used it a few times mate, seems fine so far.
I just use a mix of snow foam and shampoo, but I'm no detailer.

I'm sure people like @Scrooge and @yellowdave will be able to give you better advice than me. [emoji2]

 

[JamesBryan]

Shampoo and water is fine for a clay lube.

 

[DB.]

Although it shouldn't need it being a new car, I'd recommend decontaminating too

Pre wash
Rinse
Wash
Rinse
De tar
Rinse
De iron
Rinse
Wash
Rinse

Then pat dry and look out for any marks/scratches/defects before considering polishing. The less you rub/touch the paint, the better.

Af tough coat is a fairly easy to apply and durable sealant. It seems to last alright on wheels too.

Someone will be along to suggest dedicated paint and wheel sealants though.

And you don't need to seal and then wax, it's a bit overkill and if the sealant doesn't last as long as the wax, the sealant will kill off the wax prematurely when it dies off.

Thanks. Fair comment on the sealant and wax. (My logic was sealant to protect the paint and then wax to add some shine).

Not being a dick but are you buying the car or leasing? If buying I'd probably cough up the money and get a pro to give it a new car protection detail.. Wheels off and sealed, paint and glass etc.
Guessing the bmw is a hefty sum so a few hundred getting it detailed at the start would be my advice.

I have purchased it. (PCP with £10k deposit, then will be purchasing it outright in 30 months). Another £300 to get a pro to do something is just another expense lol It's already costing a fortune! I do see the logic but probably a cost I'd rather avoid if possible. My previous results on my cars have always been relatively good, just looking to improve it slightly.

 

[terryc101]

Just used Gyeon WetCoat for the first time, really impressed. Car barely needed drying after and has left it looking very slick.

 

[JamesBryan]

I have purchased it. (PCP with £10k deposit, then will be purchasing it outright in 30 months). Another £300 to get a pro to do something is just another expense lol It's already costing a fortune! I do see the logic but probably a cost I'd rather avoid if possible. My previous results on my cars have always been relatively good, just looking to improve it slightly.

Not really the thread to discuss this..... but are you not better off on HP rather than PCP if you plan to buy it outright from the start?

 

[DB.]

Not really the thread to discuss this..... but are you not better off on HP rather than PCP if you plan to buy it outright from the start?

For a variety of reasons, including mortgage, flexibility, size of monthly payments etc, no. (Definitely would be in certain cases)

Was a better option to have a smaller monthly payment, less impact on mortgage applications, then just a shortfall of about £8k at the end of the term to pay for the balloon. I have kept £12k aside to go towards the balloon, however that remains in my bank and not in BMW's and I also have the flexibility incase things change etc. .

 

[Scrooge]

That's the one I've been looking at, have you used it? If so, how'd you find it? Can it just be used with water/shampoo or does it need lube?

Shampoo and water is lube, use plenty and be very gentle. Cloths mar everything to f**k.

 

[ClioCup_7]

Get Bilt hamber clay

The mitts may be quick but don't do a proper job and marr the paint more

 

[leeds2592]

Get Bilt hamber clay

The mitts may be quick but don't do a proper job and marr the paint more

Already got some BH clay in the garage, such a tedious task though. Lots of rave reviews on DW about the mitts.

 

[imprezaworks]

I've used the mitts. Wouldn't use one again tbh

 

[Yellow Dave]

A wax and sealant do the same thing. They just have different names as ones typically a synthetic whereas the other a more organic recipe. The sealant topped with wax is more for a visual reason in my mind. Typically a synthetic sealant will last longer than a nice glossy wax. So top one with the other and you get good durability and the initial look of the wax. Colli 476 is a paste sealant and solvent heavy meaning it performs better applied directly to clean paint. If not durability may be reduced. And it's not the most glossy of waxes. It's also incredibly durable so apply colli 476 as the base sealant and if you want then apply a nice glossy wax over the top but it's not really necessary.

As for having a pro detail a new car. They typically offer the protection from a nano coating meaning there is no need to use traditional wax and sealants as the coating will last approx 2 years or more. But also makes washing and keeping the car clean and looking fresh so so much easier. The initial cost of a detail on a new car is significantly less than on a used car and it's going to help maintain the new finish for longer.

With the correct maintenance the need for using clay can be greatly reduced. And to be honest you really need to expect to see some marring to the paint with even the most delicate of uses. A clay mitt can inflict terrible marring that almost looks like sanding flatting marks. But they are a lot quicker to use than traditional clay, but, not quite as at getting the finer contamination. With any clay or mitt, diluted QD or shampoo and water mix can be used. Even with bilt hamber wax I still will not use plain water. If you maintains your car, keep it well protected, use tar and iron removers when it's time to re wax and even when you do use clay you'll find very little bonded contaminants

 

[imprezaworks]

Pretty much what I was going to say,

Ish.

 

[_Tom]

What's a good upholstery cleaner chaps? My rear bench has what looks like water drops on it. Or am I best finding someone to wet vac it? Also worth noting they are a alcantara esk material.

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[JamesBryan]

Could try Raceglaze Alcantara cleaner.

 

[leeds2592]

With the correct maintenance the need for using clay can be greatly reduced. And to be honest you really need to expect to see some marring to the paint with even the most delicate of uses. A clay mitt can inflict terrible marring that almost looks like sanding flatting marks. But they are a lot quicker to use than traditional clay, but, not quite as at getting the finer contamination. With any clay or mitt, diluted QD or shampoo and water mix can be used. Even with bilt hamber wax I still will not use plain water. If you maintains your car, keep it well protected, use tar and iron removers when it's time to re wax and even when you do use clay you'll find very little bonded contaminants

Sod it, I'll save £12 and use the BH clay I've got in the garage. At least I'll have a bit of time to do it over the Easter Weekend.

 

[ClioCup_7]

What's a good upholstery cleaner chaps? My rear bench has what looks like water drops on it. Or am I best finding someone to wet vac it? Also worth noting they are a alcantara esk material.

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[Gally]

Shampoo and water is lube, use plenty and be very gentle. Cloths mar everything to f**k.

Listen to this man. The more I use mitts the more I use proper lubes and also snowfoam the car to aid lubrication.

 

[Jay_A]

Gave the S3 a good clean today. Can't believe I've had it 6 months now, but still love it to bits.

 

[imprezaworks]

Oddly I've never used a da until today. I would highly recomend any one that is interested in cleaning cars, get one.

Boom. G3 compound, p1 nano polish, bh wax

 

[Jay_A]

Oddly I've never used a da until today. I would highly recomend any one that is interested in cleaning cars, get one.

Boom. G3 compound, p1 nano polish, bh wax

Gleamin!

 

[ClioCup_7]

Quick wash and top up with Zaino z6 then z8 ...

 

[Gally]

As much as I think you give some poor advice on this forum I do love Zaino so bravo for sticking with the old school. Used to love layering Zaino on my own cars. Layers of Z5 and layers of Z6 or Z8.

 

[ClioCup_7]

As much as I think you give some poor advice on this forum I do love Zaino so bravo for sticking with the old school. Used to love layering Zaino on my own cars. Layers of Z5 and layers of Z6 or Z8.

Feeling is mutual

Though there's a lot of people who do it full time and I cringe at the recommendations and techniques they use

Each to their own I say

But Zaino is great, always has been and always will be

 

[Stay Puft]

Using a das6pro and the revitalise kit, should I be getting scratches/marks like this out?

Any tips..

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

Using a das6pro and the revitalise kit, should I be getting scratches/marks like this out?

Any tips..

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Can you feel them if you run your nails across them? If so you won't get them out. You might be able to reduce then though.

 

[Stay Puft]

Can you feel them if you run your nails across them? If so you won't get them out. You might be able to reduce then though.

Yeah I can feel them slightly. Ive attacked it with 'restore' and tried different speeds etc but no luck

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

Yeah I can feel them slightly. Ive attacked it with 'restore' and tried different speeds etc but no luck 😧

What pad are you using mate?

 

[Stay Puft]

With this kit you have corresponding pads, and I think it's the harshest one.

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

With this kit you have corresponding pads, and I think it's the harshest one.

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I used this on a few fairly deep scratches on my Clio http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/...variant=7725&gclid=CM2zlpGS4csCFdgaGwod_KgELA

It didn't get rid of them completely but it reduced them a lot.

It was also really good following wet sanding on my beemers bumpers.

 

[Stay Puft]

Thanks mate.

 

[ClioCup_7]

Rev kit is the only product to let af down

Stick to a polish from a company that makes proper polishes and concentrates on them like scholl and Koch chemie

 

[riz]

Just used Wolfs Nano glaze, similar to CarPro essence and it really did hide a lot of swirls and I've just put a layer of Bodyguard on. Just waiting for it to harden up...

 

[Knuckles]

Yeah I can feel them slightly. Ive attacked it with 'restore' and tried different speeds etc but no luck 😧

Have a look at my 'naughty blue 1.2' write up. And ignore the colour name error.

I masked/removed some fairly harsh scratches with a combination of polish and glaze.

How are you machining it? What speeds/feeds etc.

Read up on the zenith technique, it's all I use and I get decent results.

 

[scotty10]

Hi guys...
What wheel cleaner would you recommend for wheels that are caked in brake dust/dirt. Something fairly strong. Also for my own car what pad would you recommend I use for CGV36 using the da.

Cheers

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

Hi guys...
What wheel cleaner would you recommend for wheels that are caked in brake dust/dirt. Something fairly strong. Also for my own car what pad would you recommend I use for CGV36 using the da.

Cheers

I've been using Meguiars wheel brightener recently and despite me not being a massive fan of their products I've found this stuff to be very very effective.

 

[scotty10]

I'll have a look at that. KKD brake away looks pretty good also. Has anyone tried apc pure acid wheel cleaner. Cheap as chips for 5L.

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

I'll have a look at that. KKD brake away looks pretty good also. Has anyone tried apc pure acid wheel cleaner. Cheap as chips for 5L.

I bought some of this stuff a couple of weeks ago. https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/141522881066 I've not got round to using it yet but according to @Daniel when using this you'll need to take the wheels off and work quick with it.

 

[Knuckles]

Hi guys...
What wheel cleaner would you recommend for wheels that are caked in brake dust/dirt. Something fairly strong. Also for my own car what pad would you recommend I use for CGV36 using the da.

Cheers

Auto finesse imperial or wonder wheels hot wheels (these both have mild fallout removers) followed by iron X or/and iron X paste if the fallout is especially heavy.

 

[Yellow Dave]

Imperial is a general alkali based but neutralised pH wheel cleaner and no fallout remover. Iron out is the fallout remover.

It depends on how bad the wheels are? How baked on is it? My advice give them a good thorough wash and degrease with strong dilution of shampoo and all purpose cleaner. Next I'd suggest going to halfords and getting a bottle of wonder wheels hot wheels, purple liquid that has a small amount of fallout remover like iron x and iron out, hopefully this will work.

If not try the original wonder wheels super wheel cleaner in the silver bottle with brush. This is acidic but provided you use it carefully and don't leave on too long or apply to damaged wheels a one of use is ok

Once they're nice and clean protect them with a proper wheel wax or sealant and then general shampoo should be all that is needed to keep them clean

 

[Knuckles]

Imperial is a general alkali based but neutralised pH wheel cleaner and no fallout remover. Iron out is the fallout remover.

It depends on how bad the wheels are? How baked on is it? My advice give them a good thorough wash and degrease with strong dilution of shampoo and all purpose cleaner. Next I'd suggest going to halfords and getting a bottle of wonder wheels hot wheels, purple liquid that has a small amount of fallout remover like iron x and iron out, hopefully this will work.

If not try the original wonder wheels super wheel cleaner in the silver bottle with brush. This is acidic but provided you use it carefully and don't leave on too long or apply to damaged wheels a one of use is ok

Once they're nice and clean protect them with a proper wheel wax or sealant and then general shampoo should be all that is needed to keep them clean

I was recommending imperial to clean the dirt off the wheels before using iron X to shift the fallout.

I think I tested iron out and didn't find it too effective compared to iron X.