Mine's just an ST.
They come with 200bhp from Ford so if you do need to put a power figure on it for differentiation, it's an ST200.
Calling it an ST180 is like calling a Clio 182 a Clio 150.
I always thought it was as a type of code if you like lol. That makes the Focus ST225 and Fiesta ST150 redundant too then?
Do you also think the RS500 is 500bhp? lol
oh its chip then
Totally agreed. Theres far to many non clio owners on this forumBoth new and old ST's are s**t imo. I will say my clio is massivley better all rounder than both.
I joined CS to read and discuss stuff about clios! Either sod it off in another more appropriate section or actually is there not a forum for them??
This place needs re-naming lol.
Oh and i can eat , leave for dead and tear a new arsehole in any ST because my timing was done by a non CS specialist:rasp:
Theres far to many non clio owners on this forum
I loved my old 182 with its rs2 manifold and yozza but I had nothing but troubles with it.
Bought a 10 month old fiesta st2 a few months ago and personally I find it better in every way than my 182 was.
I'd have had a new RS Clio if it was 3 door, had a manual gearbox and if I'd thought Renault quality had improved at all, (as all my previous cars had been more reliable than the 182 had been)
I think the fact there are so many non Clios here shows Renault have dropped the ball with the UK market.
IMO the new Fiesta ST is the current 182.
Taking that statement to its ultimate conclusion, you're implying that non-Clio owners shouldn't be allowed to use the forum.
Good luck with that. There would be about two interesting threads per month.
IMO the new Fiesta ST is the current 182.
you don't need to justify it in such detail. They're just in denial that the new st is the better car. Much like they were when the 197 and 200 came out to succeed the 182.
They'll come round, as they always do. Give it a few years and they'll accept it's better as they did with the mk3 clios
...the 200t however had ruined the renaultsport clio (ahem, "Clio RS") for generations to come.
I agree, and it shows why so many members have gone over. But that's not hugely relevant to this thread really.
would you prefer it if I said "yea boi ma new ST is well quicker than my old clio innit"
Can't help but say I've gone from the clio 182 to a golf mk4 gti and its by far a much better car all in all
well yes kind offTaking that statement to its ultimate conclusion, you're implying that non-Clio owners shouldn't be allowed to use the forum.
Good luck with that. There would be about two interesting threads per month.
Dont you miss the power or the handling at all?
That doesn't even make any sense IMO.
Now you're implying that the atmosphere on here is solely created by Clio owners?
Who gives a f**k close the thread
Well as there's 8 pages I would say a fair few give one tbh
Of course it makes sense you plankThat doesn't even make any sense IMO.
Now you're implying that the atmosphere on here is solely created by Clio owners?
So it doesn't make sense at all then. Are you drunk?
Exactly chipIt makes perfect sense that having a shared interest like clios can help create a feeling of comradery, and that therefore people who seem to have a specific dislike of that interest, or even just simply no longer share that interest, will have a negative effect on that that comradery derived partly from that common interest.
I am of the opinion that makes sense whether you personally understand it or not.
Yes but you don't see on the RS owners club forum how great Clio's are. They would simply laugh at youIt makes sense that the atmosphere is created by diverse tastes, but you would like all non-Clio owners banned? Right. I'm out of this one. It'll be locked soon anyway.
The matter of the fact is that there are to many people on this forum that have no intrest in clios what so ever. One being yourself