Heel toe and double de-clutch video...

[Dan@SJM]

i do it alot on the road, mainly when on a fast road run, used to do it all the time, but since the crash ive stopped doing it on track... dont understand why! saves the clutch alot too.

 

[Ali]

lol At drivin with the race boots and gloves on! You uber ghey!!

Double clutching is never something i've done with any race car to be honest...But on production catagory's i can see the point on a single plate clutch.

Good effort. You'll need to take us for a spin at FCS or RS trackday?!

Ali

 

[MarkCup]

You love it.

 

[Mikey]

cant wait for the perade lap at RWS, gonna nail it

 

[Graham Gooch]

Race boots make all the difference, the closest you can get to feeling the pedals.

Don't forget bare feet or slippers are illegal on the road!

 

[Mikey]

il wear my white osterich leather sparco boots lol

 

[riz]

if u read the tread fully you will get the jist. faster to downshift and matching revs saves on transmission, use the brakes to stop the car not the engine... cos brakes are cheaper.

yeah soz read post , heel/toe i find pedals are too high and if u move seat backwards cant put pedal to the metal

 

[Mikey]

I think he meant for the majority of us, if you've never used your left foot to brake before its far far from easy.

ahh ok mate, if you keep practicing with your left foot you'll develop a gentle feel for the pedle and you'll know on a corner when to press it if you feel the front end starting to understear, the trick to remember with front wheel drive is to keep the front wheels turning even whilst sliding, the worst thing you can do when the car is sliding is touch the brakes, keep the throttle nailed and opposite lock dude, keep practicing and im sure you'll get it mate, its a great skill to have

 

[Ali]

You love it.

Like a hole in the head!x

 

[BrianR]

ahh ok mate, if you keep practicing with your left foot you'll develop a gentle feel for the pedle and you'll know on a corner when to press it if you feel the front end starting to understear, the trick to remember with front wheel drive is to keep the front wheels turning even whilst sliding, the worst thing you can do when the car is sliding is touch the brakes, keep the throttle nailed and opposite lock dude, keep practicing and im sure you'll get it mate, its a great skill to have

Is this guy on a big wind up, or just completely suicidal.

I wish he would stop digging that hole and give the majority of people on here some credit for knowing how to drive and almost as importantly, having years of driving experience.

How old is he,18, been driving Karts 10 years, and saloon racing for 2 years, who is this Lewis Hamilton ?

Just read some of your own posts "mate" and you will see, maybe, just how ridiculous they sound.
In just one paragraph you contradict yourself. and as for "Nail it on the parade lap" ? that will get you noticed, wont it !.

 

[AlexS]

So how would I go about blipping the throttle on a down change?
Just dabbing the throttle when the clutch is depressed?

 

[BrianR]

So how would I go about blipping the throttle on a down change?
Just dabbing the throttle when the clutch is depressed?

Alex, if you read the thread from the start, the answer is in there, it just got a bit side-tracked by this foolish, left foot braking nonsense which is a totally different subject and certainly not something to try in a road car even on a track day.

 

[AlexS]

So how would I go about blipping the throttle on a down change?
Just dabbing the throttle when the clutch is depressed?

Alex, if you read the thread from the start, the answer is in there, it just got a bit side-tracked by this foolish, left foot braking nonsense which is a totally different subject and certainly not something to try in a road car even on a track day.

Cheers, will read it from the start. Yeah I tried left foot braking once, nearly went through the windscreen have no sensitivity compared to my right foot, i guess i depressed the brake pedal like I would the clutch

 

[Darren S]

I think Brian should have his own sticky section - This Month's Driving Tip...

I must admit, the only thing I do regularly is the blip-throttle / downchange action in my car. Feels great when you get it right - so smooth.

D.

 

[mini-valver]

Tried the method you described today Brian, its SO hard! I either missed the gear or revved whilst in gear and went all kangaroo!
Never the less, practice makes perfect so cheers for the advice.

 

[Mikey]

Is this guy on a big wind up, or just completely suicidal.

I wish he would stop digging that hole and give the majority of people on here some credit for knowing how to drive and almost as importantly, having years of driving experience.

How old is he,18, been driving Karts 10 years, and saloon racing for 2 years, who is this Lewis Hamilton ?

Just read some of your own posts "mate" and you will see, maybe, just how ridiculous they sound.
In just one paragraph you contradict yourself. and as for "Nail it on the parade lap" ? that will get you noticed, wont it !.

motorsport is about money which I have little of, got to do something to get my talent noticed, surely youd rather me be a race driver than a chav that blasts around maccies causing accidents.

 

[BrianR]

motorsport is about money which I have little of, got to do something to get my talent noticed, surely youd rather me be a race driver than a chav that blasts around maccies causing accidents.

Motor racing is about SKILL and TALENT and, not trying to fool people you know it all.

I used to sponsor a young driver in Carrera Cup racing, he had loads of potential but absolutely no humility or interpersonal skills, so I pulled my funding, he drives for City Link now.

 

[Mikey]

I have alot to learn I know that, I just want someone to spot my SKILL and TALENT so I can prove I have potential and hopefully get sponsored.

 

[BrianR]

I have alot to learn I know that, I just want someone to spot my SKILL and TALENT so I can prove I have potential and hopefully get sponsored.

Fair enough, perhaps lesson learnt then. You will get nowhere unless your natural talent is accompanied by a small amount of humility, its a hard game with a lot of wannabees who haven't got a snowball in hells chance.
If you have lots of time on your hands while you're waiting for your big break, get yourself in the gym, you need to be super fit to race.

 

[Saner]

Would I benifit from this sorta thing at all in my 1.4. Or should I wait till I have something a little faster?

 

[Mikey]

I have alot to learn I know that, I just want someone to spot my SKILL and TALENT so I can prove I have potential and hopefully get sponsored.

Fair enough, perhaps lesson learnt then. You will get nowhere unless your natural talent is accompanied by a small amount of humility, its a hard game with a lot of wannabees who haven't got a snowball in hells chance.
If you have lots of time on your hands while you're waiting for your big break, get yourself in the gym, you need to be super fit to race.

yeh man im the right size and build for it but its my stamina thats lacking, want to try more running and cycling, You will probs never of heard of him but a Guy called Andrew Mckenna is my coach and he has high hopes for me, just need to get noticed, the 750 motorclub is good training ground but id like to progress. Im also doing a competition called 'bearacingdriver' the prize is 8 weeks in america racing in the skip barber championship, would love to win that to kickstart my career :dapprove:

 

[MarkCup]

Saner, be it a V6, or a 1.2, pretty much all manual gearboxes/clutches benefit from being used like this.

 

[Mikey]

Would I benifit from this sorta thing at all in my 1.4. Or should I wait till I have something a little faster?

the technique is still the same mate its perhaps better to try in a slower vehicle at first to get the hang of it and then try it in a faster car, the roads is the wrong place to be doing this stuff though, get yourself doing track days mate

 

[Graham Gooch]

You'll save the gearbox and clutch alot of stress, no matter what the engine!

First thing I do when get a courtesy car is start blipping the throttle, although heel/toeing is quite hard as the brakes are overservoed on alot of 'normal' cars which can make the car jerk and unstable going into a bend lol, which defeats the object of doing it in the first place lol.

 

[Mikey]

You'll save the gearbox and clutch alot of stress, no matter what the engine!

First thing I do when get a courtesy car is start blipping the throttle, although heel/toeing is quite hard as the brakes are overservoed on alot of 'normal' cars which can make the car jerk and unstable going into a bend lol, which defeats the object of doing it in the first place lol.

hehehe do it in ford transits too

 

[Graham Gooch]

I found old diesels, like my old h reg Clio RN, really quite hard to do this as the engine requires a long press of the accelerator pedal.

 

[Mikey]

yeh always gonna be a problem with diesels not been as buzzy, i find the clio's with them been 16v are great for it!

 

[BrianR]

Its really only what you would have to be able to do to drive, before cars were equipped with synchromesh gearboxes.

Its really not essential these days and most people wouldn't know how, or indeed want to do it.
The real benefits are probably not worth much on the road but if you can develop the skill during daily driving , when its safe to do so, you will find it easier on the relatively short time you are on a track day.

I would agree Ralph, its not easy in a Diesel, due to the relatively slow throttle response (unless your driving a BMW 330 d)

 

[Graham Gooch]

Its really only what you would have to be able to do to drive, before cars were equipped with synchromesh gearboxes.

Its really not essential these days and most people wouldn't know how, or indeed want to do it.
The real benefits are probably not worth much on the road but if you can develop the skill during daily driving , when its safe to do so, you will find it easier on the relatively short time you are on a track day.

I would agree Ralph, its not easy in a Diesel, due to the relatively slow throttle response (unless your driving a BMW 330 d)

Is this down to Direct Injection or High pressure injectors? I'm not up too hot on diesel engines, well not modern ones anyway lol. Diesels are quite complex these days!

I'd love to take a 330cd sport (e46) for a spin, especially the later ones, IIRC 225bhp! thats before they have been remapped. They even sound nice! I think I've committed sacriledge. I love my petrol engines more though

 

[Mikey]

the 120d works quite well for double de-clutching