Fiesta ST-2 Finsport
Ticket? Family or you work for them?
I have worked for them, and my dad (now retired) worked at duntons for nearly 30 years
Ticket? Family or you work for them?
I'm just about two months in, have covered a shade over 3,000 miles, so its time for some charts...
Mile per gallon isn't quite as good as I hoped for yet, I'm still learning how to get the absolute best out of the little motor though, so I expect it to improve over time
The all-in costs won't be truly accurate until I start replacing brakes, tyres, and have the odd service or repair
Proof here if ever it were needed that whining about VED bands/costs is pointless...it's such a tiny element of the overall cost of car ownership. This is on a little Fiesta, consider VED on a more expensive or less economical car and it's impact overall is even less
I know it'll get worse but compared to the monthly costs of my outgoing Clio 200 (£657 comparing like for like)...
Still loving the experience
For anyone interested, depreciation is straightline over 5 years to a residual value of £4,000.
Mark I never understand cost of ownership stuff, well over my little pea!
I've got a question, where did you get the depreciation figure from?
chris
I'm baffled that people moan about VED, particularly on performance cars. It's minuscule in the grand scheme of things.
The MPG is brilliant really, considering it's a reasonably powerful little car. At 45 MPG, you're only 6MPG less than the average mpg I'm getting in the diesel mini I'm running at the moment.
Didnt feel that miniscule on my vectra vxr when it dropped through the door at £475. I guess I'm just not high roller enough yet.
£40 a month, less than most people pay for their Sky TV!!
This is true but sky have the decency to let me pay monthly - the government don't.
Cue the 'manage your finances and put £40 a month away' comments.
But that's it though, isn't it?
I used to put £100 a month into an account to cover tax, insurance, servicing, breakdown etc.
Job done.
Most of the costs associated with cars, with the exception of unexpected repairs, reasonably fixed. You know tax is gonna cost (within a % or 2) £X. You know insurance will cost broadly £Y. You know the AA cover will be broadly £Z. Add all those up, spread them across 12 months and you have your monthly bill.
I'm not sure what's difficult about that?
I also said in terms of running the car across the year / ownership period, which Mark's graph illustrates. Driving more economically through the week could pay for your tax, assuming you do an average mileage.
What would be gained by paying monthly?
I'd question the security of someone's lifestyle if pulling £500 out once a year was a deal breaker. I'd also question the sanity of running a car that costs £500 a year to tax, as it's likely all the bills will be bigger, particularly fuel, which is the biggest hit to the pocket.
You genuinely sound like my dad.
Lol.
Your Dad sounds like a wise man.
As I say, I'm not disputing it's something I'd rather not pay, and I'm certainly not suggesting I wouldn't welcome VED being less than it is. IMO though, in the grand scheme of car ownership, it's one of smallest costs, and one of the easiest to manage and mitigate the impact of.
Surely you loose more than 4k over a 5 years through depreciation, regardless of Warranty + Maintenance but it's worth a try. Figures look good, I'd be happy with that MPG, currently doing 25 in the Clio. Don't really care much for costs though as I haven't got a house/mortgage to worry about so just enjoying it :drunk:Depreciation = purchase price less what it's worth at 5 years old with 100k on the clock, I've said £4,000 as it will be standard/Mountuned and having had a warranty for its full 100k will have been meticulously maintained. I think that's fair.
Then I split it equally over 5 years to get a daily rate. From that and the mileage all the other figures are calculated.
4k is his end figure, not total depreciation.
2.6k per year depreciation if you check his table.
Mark can you work out the depreciation of my focus please lol?
paid 22000 (if you include my deposit)
1 I'm lazy and Cba with maths atm
2 my car is a new model and there aren't even 2 year I'd st's about yet
3 I'm lazy
Average mileage, planned ownership 2 years (sorry Matt )
yes marks is equally as new hence I didn't know where he got the figure from
Not wanting to piss on your parade, but they have a long way to go before they sit alongside the classic hatches. Lets see if anyone remembers them in 20 years time.
Yep, pure guesswork for me.
I looked at what 5 year old Fiesta STs are going for at the moment...not too many about with 100k miles on (as mine will have when it's that old) but found a few with 70k on...and they were priced £4,500-£5,000.
I've a reminder in my phone to update this thread on the 1st August 2033 with the results.
Ford Motor Co. said:Jul-31-2013 8:55 AM ET
Europe
COLOGNE, Germany – Ford Motor Company is increasing production of the critically-acclaimed new Fiesta ST hot hatch after receiving twice as many orders as expected in Europe in its first six months on sale.
Ford has received nearly 10,000 orders for the new Fiesta ST since it went on sale in March. To help meet demand, Ford is increasing production by 15 per cent to 60 vehicles per day at the company’s assembly plant in Cologne, Germany.
Demand for Ford’s new Fiesta ST has been driven by customers in the U.K., who have purchased 56 per cent of all models sold in Europe to date, followed by Germany and Switzerland, with these three markets accounting for more than 87 per cent of European sales.
The new Fiesta ST unique colours Molten Orange and Spirit Blue have been requested on 45 per cent of orders and 56 per cent of customers have opted for higher specification ST2 models.
Not wanting to piss on your parade, but they have a long way to go before they sit alongside the classic hatches. Lets see if anyone remembers them in 20 years time.
Really surprised to see a low % of ST-2. Everyone i've seen online has been ST-2.
Still 56% is high, just not as high as I thought.
Really surprised to see a low % of ST-2. Everyone i've seen online has been ST-2.
Still 56% is high, just not as high as I thought.
Also, sixty ST per day may seem a lot, but it's a pretty reasonable percentage considering the Cologne operation is capable of producing around 800 units per 24h.
Are the lines model specific?