MarkCup's Fiesta ST

[MarkCup]

Absolutely no offence intended but that sounds like a 1.2 Corsa B with a massive exhaust. Whats this sound symphoser all about?

Doesn't sound quite like that in real life...I had the microphone clipped to the top edge of the passenger floormat to try and capture wherever it is the sound is piped in.

As Jaff says, once you hear it first hand it makes sense.

 

[Matt Cup]

Is it an artificial noise played through the speakers or is this just noise vented through from the engine bay?

 

[Gorms]

I saw you today Mark, on the A27 between the Emsworth juntion all the way down to the Bever tool hire roundabout. Was in the wifes Up!. The little Fiesta looks very good mate.

 

[MarkCup]

Is it an artificial noise played through the speakers or is this just noise vented through from the engine bay?

It's induction noise direct from the inlet manifold but it's amplified through a membrane before being routed into the cabin.

I saw you today Mark, on the A27 between the Emsworth juntion all the way down to the Bever tool hire roundabout. Was in the wifes Up!. The little Fiesta looks very good mate.

LOL...I remember seeing you...it's black right...and a little grubby? Is the boot/tailgate one complete piece of glass? That's what I was thinking as I went past...I've never looked closely at one before.

You've seen it in the flesh...what did you think of the colour? Pasty faded peach?

 

[Gorms]

LOL...I remember seeing you...it's black right...and a little grubby? Is the boot/tailgate one complete piece of glass? That's what I was thinking as I went past...I've never looked closely at one before.

You've seen it in the flesh...what did you think of the colour? Pasty faded peach?

Yeah thats the one. Too be honest i really didnt like the colour in the pictures but in the flesh it really suits the car. Its a lot darker than the pictures and it looks a lot deeper. I think it would look spot on with the wheels a little darker and the funny red rear diffuser wrapped in gloss black.

​My wife really liked it.

 

[MarkCup]

LOL at wife liked it. Mine hates it with a passion. Today was the first time in 900 miles she's even so much as sat in it.

I know what you mean about the coloured non-diffuser looking odd...they should have given it a proper one or not bothered...and body coloured as it is just looks wrong.

 

[LIL B]

What was that, 6.5 to 60?

 

[MarkCup]

What was that, 6.5 to 60?

Doubtful...I wasn't really going for a full-on launch and was quite laid back with the gear changes. I think 100 came up in approx. 18 seconds which sounds about right to me.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Looks nimble enough anyway!

 

[rs 1an]

I had a new ford Escort 1.6 rs turbo f reg black the turbo in that went bang along with everyone elses, sold that for atlas grey golf gti16v f998kvx with electric recaros 15k new, the build quality does look better in the new fiesta st but my wife who drives a rb 197 looked at the st in the showroom then got the salesman to come and see her car, she did not even want to sit in it, i think it needed a rs badge and bolder styling. She was confused that the red calipers did not mean a cup chassis and also that the salesman did not understand what she was talking about, i wasnt , just hope when we get to see a clio rs4 its better

 

[timps]

Just had a phone call to say mine should be with me next wednesday !! as long as everything goes to plan that is.

 

[MarkCup]

Just had a phone call to say mine should be with me next wednesday !! as long as everything goes to plan that is.

Check the tyre pressures when you get it...experience of a lot of owners is that they come with about 8-10 psi too much in the rear.

Then go and find a large clear-sighted wide empty roundabout and try and get it moving about

 

[Russ_16v]

Interesting choice Mark!

For some reason I never thought of you in one of them, interesting choice though! Good to see you're enjoying it!

What happened to getting a 200T?

 

[MarkCup]

Interesting choice Mark!

For some reason I never thought of you in one of them, interesting choice though! Good to see you're enjoying it!

What happened to getting a 200T?

Renault and their useless launch of (and apparent failure to deliver) what should have been a ground breaking car. That and Chris Harris' first drive comments about the ST on twitter were enough to convince me to jump ship.

 

[Russ_16v]

Fair enough mate, that doesn't surprise me about Renault lol.


Have you had it on track yet? (Sorry, only just seen this thread!)

 

[Gorms]

I have been given a 1litre Ecoboost Zetec S as a courtesy and im loving it. Cant get over how nippy it is for a 1litre, the 6ST must be a hoot.

 

[Chris-Mk2]

I am really liking these cars. Just need to test drive one now and see if they live up to the reviews and amount of praise they are receiving.
The distances I have to travel is ever increasing and at sub 30mpg means I can get 350 miles from a full tank.


Mark - how many miles from a full tank do you get out of this with mixed driving?

 

[Slammed172]

As I say, unless he caught me cruising in 6th, 5th or 4th Different story then.

ETA

Completely agree with Mark, people are too obsessed with figures and have to think about the real world.

My Type R is slow as s**t in an everyday situation. Every car on the dual carriageway will stick with me. Unless I want to drop down several cogs, that is tiresome.

If you constantly in high revs then great, but when does that happen ? Once a year on a track day.

Is it an artificial noise played through the speakers or is this just noise vented through from the engine bay?

LOL, Facepalm.

 

[imprezaworks]

Are you looking to sell the civic?

 

[Slammed172]

Lol yes, can you tell. 20k in 1 year is enough for me. Vtec is over-rated.

 

[imprezaworks]

It would make sense with the comment you just made lol. Oh and if you have done 20k in a year in that car, you picked the wrong car.

 

[Darren S]

Loved the Fiesta ST that they had on the Ford stand at Oulton. Interiors mean faff-all to me, but even I had to appreciate the effort with the seats.

They appear to be getting rave reviews too. So nice to see Ford pushing a worthwhile Fiesta out again, now.

​D.

 

[MarkCup]

Fair enough mate, that doesn't surprise me about Renault lol.


Have you had it on track yet? (Sorry, only just seen this thread!)

Not yet. Just clicked over 1,000 miles in the last couple of days, will be up to approx 2,500 early in August when I get to boot it around Goodwood...can't wait for that.

I am really liking these cars. Just need to test drive one now and see if they live up to the reviews and amount of praise they are receiving.
The distances I have to travel is ever increasing and at sub 30mpg means I can get 350 miles from a full tank.


Mark - how many miles from a full tank do you get out of this with mixed driving?

My mixed driving isn't really typical as I spend my entire life plodding (and sometimes flying) along minor A and B roads...no motorways, no cities, no junctions/lights/roundabouts and no traffic.

The tank is actually slightly bigger than the Clio at 56 litres...so you will at least get the same range as you currently do, but you'll likely get a whole lot more.

My engine's loosening up and economy is improving all the time...I'm seeing 38-40mpg at the moment where in my 200 I would have had 32-34mpg...so over a full tank that's roughly 70 miles extra range.

 

[Munson]

Mark, you got any more decent vids?

 

[MarkCup]

Decent vids? Not sure if SRS.

I've filmed my commute the last couple of days but captured nothing worth spending the time editing.

I do have some in gear runs which I might overlay against the ones I did a while back in my 200...should illustrate how asthmatic the NA engines really are.

 

[Chris_MK3]

I want. they just look sexy and are so quick

 

[gez 172]

LOL, now I'm not sure if your being SRS?

So now the Clio is asthmatic? I'm sorry, but you've gone to a 1.6T, not a meg 265. Think you need to step back a bit.


The Clio's powerband is high up, and is rubbish low down. The Fiesta is all low down and dog s**t after 6K. Completely different engines and delivery.


It's a sidestep in cars.

 

[MarkCup]

Fair enough mate, that doesn't surprise me about Renault lol.


Have you had it on track yet? (Sorry, only just seen this thread!)

I am really liking these cars. Just need to test drive one now and see if they live up to the reviews and amount of praise they are receiving.
The distances I have to travel is ever increasing and at sub 30mpg means I can get 350 miles from a full tank.


Mark - how many miles from a full tank do you get out of this with mixed driving?

LOL, now I'm not sure if your being SRS?

So now the Clio is asthmatic? I'm sorry, but you've gone to a 1.6T, not a meg 265. Think you need to step back a bit.


The Clio's powerband is high up, and is rubbish low down. The Fiesta is all low down and dog s**t after 6K. Completely different engines and delivery.


It's a sidestep in cars.

Yes a NA 200 is asthmatic (I've always said that throughout the 30k miles I've driven in one). They get going really well but only once you've wound on 5k rpm...up until that point, pretty much any DERV rep-mobile would/could destroy one. That's the point I'm making.

You don't think that observation is right?

I agree it is a sidestep...I never said anything to say it wasn't. They both perform pretty much identically/have similar pace...but the way they go about it is what I'm talking about.

 

[gez 172]

I don't get what your trying to say though? Just sounds like nonsense tbh. The Clio's power is all up on the higher rev? So a diesel staying with it if your under 5K rpm is completely irrelevant? Why would you race something when your not even in the right gear. That's the same as implying an Astra vxr is slow off boost? Or a 600Hp car that only makes 350hp under 4K Rpm? It's the nature of the engine. It's just lazy if your implying you accelerate in higher gears and under the powerband. Different engines/ different driving style.


Fair enough if you said 'the fiesta suits my driving style' but my brothers corsa vxr I find boring, I love a high revving n/a, love working an engine. So it's all down to preference. It's hardly asthmatic...


The fiesta is rubbish after 6K rpm? So is that asthmatic, whereas the Clio keeps revving and comes alive.




Just your points sound completely irrelevant.

 

[Jaff.]

I don't get what your trying to say though? Just sounds like nonsense tbh. The Clio's power is all up on the higher rev? So a diesel staying with it if your under 5K rpm is completely irrelevant? Why would you race something when your not even in the right gear. That's the same as implying an Astra vxr is slow off boost? Or a 600Hp car that only makes 350hp under 4K Rpm? It's the nature of the engine. It's just lazy if your implying you accelerate in higher gears and under the powerband. Different engines/ different driving style.


Fair enough if you said 'the fiesta suits my driving style' but my brothers corsa vxr I find boring, I love a high revving n/a, love working an engine. So it's all down to preference. It's hardly asthmatic...


The fiesta is rubbish after 6K rpm? So is that asthmatic, whereas the Clio keeps revving and comes alive.




Just your points sound completely irrelevant.

And your point makes you sound like a boost hater...

The guy is enjoying his new car comparing it with his old one is the only thing he knows. It better than you coming in here saying the fiesta is s**t the Clio wins all just because you drive a Clio and never experienced a fiesta, which is what normally happens (not saying you do it btw but many others do).

 

[gez 172]

I'm very far from a boost hater. I was just using it as a point.


i like the fiest, I said in the very first pages that I love the car. Which I do.

​i just don't understand the points being made, as I have mentioned above.

 

[MarkCup]

The point being made is that the Fiesta ST (or any boosted car really) is a far easier car to make progress in.

It doesn't require you to be in race mode.

It doesn't require you to wring it out to the limiter to get moving.

It doesn't require 3 down-shifts before an overtake.

I know this isn't news. I know the NA Clio comes alive at high rpm. I know they have similar pace. I know the ST is not an 'upgrade'. None of these points are in doubt.

But give me a choice of one to own and drive day to day and it's boost all the way.

On track? I can't say yet...I think I'll probably hanker after my old 200.

But seeing as I do 99.25% of my annual mileage on the road, boost wins.

 

[silentsnake]

I want one exactly the same as yours, so nice.. But I've still got another year left on mine

anybody know of any good lease deals for these knocking about just for future reference?

 

[Slammed172]

But seeing as I do 99.25% of my annual mileage on the road, boost wins.

+1

​I'd rather be happy 99% of the time than content 99% and ESTATIC 1% of the time.

 

[MarkCup]

Mark, you got any more decent vids?

I caught a FRS...he undertook myself and the next 3 or 4 cars ahead of me as we joined a 2 lane DC...and almost got side swiped by the one ahead of me in the process.

Proper tool...with a point to prove that I can't quite figure out.

 

[Gally]

Still not seen any on the road!

Seen any Mark?

 

[MarkCup]

Still not seen any on the road!

Seen any Mark?

Nope. Only mine and the two customer cars I saw pre-PDI at the dealership.

I've been 'spotted' once though :approve:

 

[jesus]

We've just got 8 of this shape Fiesta at work to go with the 2 pre-facelift ones. They're just little diesel 'Style' models but they don't half look good and are lovely to drive and inside. They handle brilliantly so I can only imagine this being even better. Gearbox is decent too.

Really nice cars.

 

[Chris Lewis]

I am not seeing the good looks in this car that people claim, but each to their own. Probably because i have a thing about door mirror that are mounted down the door, like so many modern cars.

What size wheels are they?

 

[Slammed172]

Just saw my first white one on the road, they look great. The CC rear valance looks a little odd, but that's the only thing I could comment on.