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Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
Well I reckon so with it being both front and back, either way its going down the scrapper once its stripped. I have two spare blocks but both are f*cked after looking last night, one has a scored bore and the other has a couple of bent oil jets.... so back on the hunt looking for something usable!
Well I reckon so with it being both front and back, either way its going down the scrapper once its stripped. I have two spare blocks but both are f*cked after looking last night, one has a scored bore and the other has a couple of bent oil jets.... so back on the hunt looking for something usable!
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
Similar / same build as previous lump? To keep costs down, or are you going to do a bit more for a few other ponies
Similar / same build as previous lump? To keep costs down, or are you going to do a bit more for a few other ponies
Yeah 100% standard... Probably ARP rod bolts as i know someone selling an unused set, but apart from that a complete zero miler pretty much.
It will give me more of a chance of being able to sell it on when I break the car..
Cheers, will do!
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
Continued doing a bit of the engine today... couple of other things to start with though...
Lovely DS2500s after plenty of use...
My rear Gaz adjustable shocks need rebuilding as one of the adjusters will not work and they are generally in a right state, so they are being sent off to Gaz for a rebuild which is suprisingly cheap..
Anyway onto the engine stuff. Removed the old rings from the 'new' pistons...
Crank looks in good condition, very clean..
Block is very clean also, dropping it off for a deck and hone tomorrow...
Then started to strip my engine apart to remove the head, so I can send it for a skim at the same time...
Although hit quite a big problem when 2 of the 10 headbolts basically disintegrated when undoing them, the teeth of the E-Torx literally snapped off. Soooo the head is stuck on the bottom end for now...
F*cking joke, is it a sign?!
Continued doing a bit of the engine today... couple of other things to start with though...
Lovely DS2500s after plenty of use...
My rear Gaz adjustable shocks need rebuilding as one of the adjusters will not work and they are generally in a right state, so they are being sent off to Gaz for a rebuild which is suprisingly cheap..
Anyway onto the engine stuff. Removed the old rings from the 'new' pistons...
Crank looks in good condition, very clean..
Block is very clean also, dropping it off for a deck and hone tomorrow...
Then started to strip my engine apart to remove the head, so I can send it for a skim at the same time...
Although hit quite a big problem when 2 of the 10 headbolts basically disintegrated when undoing them, the teeth of the E-Torx literally snapped off. Soooo the head is stuck on the bottom end for now...
F*cking joke, is it a sign?!
Evo 5 RS
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
that does look completely knackered lol. Look at it this way, things can only get better??? Just a bolt
that does look completely knackered lol. Look at it this way, things can only get better??? Just a bolt
clio sport
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
bit off topic how much was it to have the gaz rear shocks refurbed mate
bit off topic how much was it to have the gaz rear shocks refurbed mate
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
£12 each + Return Postage
Tried a few other things on the head bolts tonight, smashing sockets over them etc, basically just disentegrated the more I tried. Gave up and took the sump off so it will sit flat on a mill, hopefully have the heads milled off later this week :dead:
£12 each + Return Postage
Tried a few other things on the head bolts tonight, smashing sockets over them etc, basically just disentegrated the more I tried. Gave up and took the sump off so it will sit flat on a mill, hopefully have the heads milled off later this week :dead:
ValverInBits
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
Engine dropped off at machine shop today for heads to be removed, so should have that back soon. Also dropped all my brackets/subframe/ARB/wishbones off at the powdercoaters, back next week.
Mark, yeah it was Gaz! and Cro yep standard price....although if they need new rods its about double that. We'l see when they come back
Engine dropped off at machine shop today for heads to be removed, so should have that back soon. Also dropped all my brackets/subframe/ARB/wishbones off at the powdercoaters, back next week.
Mark, yeah it was Gaz! and Cro yep standard price....although if they need new rods its about double that. We'l see when they come back
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
Got round to sorting my spare bonnet today (that I got over a year ago), as I've always wanted to sack the rear catch off and just have four aerocatches. The back of the bonnet had already been half cut out due to it being on another Mk1 last year, so I started by finishing removing the second skin..
Ended up getting it all neat, left the catch on for now for lining up purposes...
Sat it on the car, marked where the holes/pins needed to go, and made a template. Drew the template onto the bonnet then checked the location of it 500times with the opposite side to make sure it was the same...
Then, a 25mm and 45mm hole saw through the ends and a grinder to cut the straights...
...and you are left with...
Then a couple of half round files to open the holes out to the perfect size for the aerocatch...
Lastly I cut the catch off leaving only a small bit of metal for the vent to mount into. All four cutouts had their mounting holes drilled with a 4mm drill bit before checking everything lined up. Now its ready to be painted back and front. Il post up more info on how I've mounted the rear pins to the cage when I get round to finishing it off...
Picked up some paint...
Then dropped it off to be sprayed. Il get some 'finished' pictures when I have it back
Got round to sorting my spare bonnet today (that I got over a year ago), as I've always wanted to sack the rear catch off and just have four aerocatches. The back of the bonnet had already been half cut out due to it being on another Mk1 last year, so I started by finishing removing the second skin..
Ended up getting it all neat, left the catch on for now for lining up purposes...
Sat it on the car, marked where the holes/pins needed to go, and made a template. Drew the template onto the bonnet then checked the location of it 500times with the opposite side to make sure it was the same...
Then, a 25mm and 45mm hole saw through the ends and a grinder to cut the straights...
...and you are left with...
Then a couple of half round files to open the holes out to the perfect size for the aerocatch...
Lastly I cut the catch off leaving only a small bit of metal for the vent to mount into. All four cutouts had their mounting holes drilled with a 4mm drill bit before checking everything lined up. Now its ready to be painted back and front. Il post up more info on how I've mounted the rear pins to the cage when I get round to finishing it off...
Picked up some paint...
Then dropped it off to be sprayed. Il get some 'finished' pictures when I have it back
Evo 8 MR
TrackCar & F30 330d
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
Looks good. Hope the head comes off easy
Looks good. Hope the head comes off easy
Yozza'd Titanium 182
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
jord... how much in total would you say this has cost you pal?
jord... how much in total would you say this has cost you pal?
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
You aint breaking it!! Ive told you this
I want it!
You aint breaking it!! Ive told you this
I want it!
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
LOL. Its been cut out since 2008, keep up
We'l see
Got the head/old block back today with the head removed, took him a while to mill the heads off the bolts but the head is all intact so I can carry on!
Then got on with removing the valves so I can drop the head and new block off tomorrow for the machine work to be done...
More soon...
LOL. Its been cut out since 2008, keep up
We'l see
Got the head/old block back today with the head removed, took him a while to mill the heads off the bolts but the head is all intact so I can carry on!
Then got on with removing the valves so I can drop the head and new block off tomorrow for the machine work to be done...
More soon...
Yozza'd Titanium 182
Re: Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project
did you ever weigh the cage itself? im just interested as it must weigh abit!
did you ever weigh the cage itself? im just interested as it must weigh abit!
Engine block and head were dropped off a few days ago to have the machine work done, so I should have those back early next week. I also had a phone call from Gaz yesterday saying my shocks are ready, which was a pretty quick turnaround!
Picked up the subfame/brackets/everything that had been powder coated yesterday also. Originally everything was going to be done black again, but ended up getting it done the color you see for half the cost
Started by cleaning up the old bushes as they were pretty manky, wonder wheels did the trick..
Copper greased the inside of the sleeves...
Pressed them into place..
Then fitted the center sleeves...
Next was to fit a new R5GTX rubber to my 5th mount, as the other one had been on for over a year...
I also thought that these would probably need replacing..
So picked up a new pair earlier last week for a couple of quid each, who says 1*2 ball joints aren't available separately? They are the same as many other Renault models. Fitted them to the wishbones with the Williams strengthening/bracing plates..
Then got the subframe out so I could fit the wishbones to it..
Then hit a problem as I realised the ARB I got from Bongy is actually a Trophy ARB so its slightly too wide for the Mk1 Subframe..
Although nothing I cant sort with a bit of modification today I left it at that with the subframe, will probably carry on with it later today.
Early last week I finally got my other hub sorted (after 7 months), after this: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...ssis-Rebuild&p=7000994&viewfull=1#post7000994 - Basically had another stub machined up, then got four more studs. Pressed it all together with a new bearing so I am now left with two studded hubs ready to use
Oh, and these arrived for the back of the bonnet too...
Just waiting for it to be back from being painted now. More later!
Picked up the subfame/brackets/everything that had been powder coated yesterday also. Originally everything was going to be done black again, but ended up getting it done the color you see for half the cost
Started by cleaning up the old bushes as they were pretty manky, wonder wheels did the trick..
Copper greased the inside of the sleeves...
Pressed them into place..
Then fitted the center sleeves...
Next was to fit a new R5GTX rubber to my 5th mount, as the other one had been on for over a year...
I also thought that these would probably need replacing..
So picked up a new pair earlier last week for a couple of quid each, who says 1*2 ball joints aren't available separately? They are the same as many other Renault models. Fitted them to the wishbones with the Williams strengthening/bracing plates..
Then got the subframe out so I could fit the wishbones to it..
Then hit a problem as I realised the ARB I got from Bongy is actually a Trophy ARB so its slightly too wide for the Mk1 Subframe..
Although nothing I cant sort with a bit of modification today
I left it at that with the subframe, will probably carry on with it later today.Early last week I finally got my other hub sorted (after 7 months), after this: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...ssis-Rebuild&p=7000994&viewfull=1#post7000994 - Basically had another stub machined up, then got four more studs. Pressed it all together with a new bearing so I am now left with two studded hubs ready to use
Oh, and these arrived for the back of the bonnet too...
Just waiting for it to be back from being painted now. More later!
