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Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]
'92 172, Lotus Elise
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
but heater matrix ftw!
are you going for a heated front screen then?
but heater matrix ftw!
are you going for a heated front screen then?
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
The valver box is almost brand new aswell so has plenty of life left in it. Are they strong enough to run a 172 engine with mods in the future i.e. ITB's
The valver box is almost brand new aswell so has plenty of life left in it. Are they strong enough to run a 172 engine with mods in the future i.e. ITB's
172 Race Car
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
anything to do with that little chat we had about this some time ago?I have a plan for demisting etc, watch this space for a while when it starts getting back together
172 Race Car
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
Look forward to that then.
Engine donor for you?
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=386921
Can sell whats left then
Look forward to that then.
Engine donor for you?
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=386921
Can sell whats left then
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
Yeah, he PM'd me yesterday about it
Got nowhere to put the hybrid never mind a 3rd car as of yet, plus not even got that much to buy a 3rd car either way as of yet, lol
Yeah, he PM'd me yesterday about it
Got nowhere to put the hybrid never mind a 3rd car as of yet, plus not even got that much to buy a 3rd car either way as of yet, lol
Golf TDI
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
good salesman technique there the hybrid is looking rather lonely and abandoned in the picture lol
good salesman technique there
the hybrid is looking rather lonely and abandoned in the picture lol Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
wired screen? like in fords?
diy (detrimental ideas yo) jordan fox styly???!!!
Well, not heated screen as such, but got a little idea for something that will demist very quickly, hidden too
wired screen? like in fords?
diy (detrimental ideas yo) jordan fox styly???!!!
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
Day 131
Made a bit of progress today, drove 450 ish mile round trip to pick up a bargin 172 engine I found for sale. Set off early doors heading for Hampshire, was originally going to use a van, but ended up going in the Valver. Engine went straight into the back with a bit of persuasion.
Its a 172 Ph1 engine, on 80k, exactly what I need. Also included the engine loom, ECU, 172 starter motor, all the coolant hoses, interior loom, decoder, keys and UCH (Don't even need this stuff for the conversion, oh well!). Had a bit off good luck also, the ECU I got with the engine is the exact one I was told by Matteh that was required to get the conversion working easily, result!
Drove it back, and had a bit of fun trying to get the engine into the factory where I store all my stuff, up steps, down a public footpath, everything possible to make it harder! Anyway, more updates soon, lots to do now!
Day 131
Made a bit of progress today, drove 450 ish mile round trip to pick up a bargin 172 engine I found for sale. Set off early doors heading for Hampshire, was originally going to use a van, but ended up going in the Valver. Engine went straight into the back with a bit of persuasion.
Its a 172 Ph1 engine, on 80k, exactly what I need. Also included the engine loom, ECU, 172 starter motor, all the coolant hoses, interior loom, decoder, keys and UCH (Don't even need this stuff for the conversion, oh well!). Had a bit off good luck also, the ECU I got with the engine is the exact one I was told by Matteh that was required to get the conversion working easily, result!
Drove it back, and had a bit of fun trying to get the engine into the factory where I store all my stuff, up steps, down a public footpath, everything possible to make it harder! Anyway, more updates soon, lots to do now!
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
Awesome!
About time too!
Nice picture message today... knew you'd find one. Lucky that you managed to source everything together though! :approve:
Awesome!
About time too!
Nice picture message today... knew you'd find one. Lucky that you managed to source everything together though! :approve:
TVR Cerbera
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
looks better in the back of the valver!
looks better in the back of the valver!
Yozza'd Titanium 182
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
in the time any normal person... fits an RS grille... colour codes there badges.... makes a cup of tea or something, jordan like fits an engine in like 12 mins n s**t
in the time any normal person... fits an RS grille... colour codes there badges.... makes a cup of tea or something, jordan like fits an engine in like 12 mins n s**t
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
Day 132
I started working out the valver loom about a week ago, but only got round to doing it properly tonight. Stripped it off the engine, along with the 172 engine loom off the other engine too. Matteh had given me his list of connections for a Ph1 valver engine loom, but unfortunately its alot different to my Ph2 valver engine loom.
As Im mating the 172 engine loom to a the valver engine bay connections, I needed to know what goes into the connector blocks on the valver loom, then trace it back on the 172 loom.
I eventually got a drawing of what was what on the valver looms engine bay connection blocks, so I need to start chopping them up next, more soon!
Day 132
I started working out the valver loom about a week ago, but only got round to doing it properly tonight. Stripped it off the engine, along with the 172 engine loom off the other engine too. Matteh had given me his list of connections for a Ph1 valver engine loom, but unfortunately its alot different to my Ph2 valver engine loom.
As Im mating the 172 engine loom to a the valver engine bay connections, I needed to know what goes into the connector blocks on the valver loom, then trace it back on the 172 loom.
I eventually got a drawing of what was what on the valver looms engine bay connection blocks, so I need to start chopping them up next, more soon!
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
Day 133
After completing the drawing of the Valver engine loom yesterday, I set about working out what connectors were what on the 172 engine loom.
Eventually got there, as you can see from the image below. Hopefully this may be useful to someone somewhere also! Going to work out what I need to keep from the Valver loom, and strip that down tommorow...
Day 134
Now I had worked out what everything was on the 172 engine loom, I needed to get modifying it. To run the 172 conversion, I need to wire in three connectors from the Valver loom, Oil Level, Coolant Temprature Sensor and the Alternator wiring. The 172 coolant temprature sensor stays in the loom also, to drive a certain part of the ECU.
I stripped all the loom tape off the Valver loom, and worked out which path the wires for those three sensors took. Once I had found them, I pulled the wires from the loom all the way back to the connector blocks, leaving them connected. I decided to leave them connected to save more soldering, as the two Valver connector blocks are going to be merged onto the 172 engine loom.
I left it at that and didnt bother chopping the connector blocks off today, as I wanted to double check everything again. More soon...
Day 133
After completing the drawing of the Valver engine loom yesterday, I set about working out what connectors were what on the 172 engine loom.
Eventually got there, as you can see from the image below. Hopefully this may be useful to someone somewhere also! Going to work out what I need to keep from the Valver loom, and strip that down tommorow...
Day 134
Now I had worked out what everything was on the 172 engine loom, I needed to get modifying it. To run the 172 conversion, I need to wire in three connectors from the Valver loom, Oil Level, Coolant Temprature Sensor and the Alternator wiring. The 172 coolant temprature sensor stays in the loom also, to drive a certain part of the ECU.
I stripped all the loom tape off the Valver loom, and worked out which path the wires for those three sensors took. Once I had found them, I pulled the wires from the loom all the way back to the connector blocks, leaving them connected. I decided to leave them connected to save more soldering, as the two Valver connector blocks are going to be merged onto the 172 engine loom.
I left it at that and didnt bother chopping the connector blocks off today, as I wanted to double check everything again. More soon...
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
Day 135
Now I knew what needed to be removed from the valver loom, that was the first job for today. I double checked that the right wires were being kept, then pulled them out of the loom, along with chopping all the unused wires off; obviously leaving enough spare to join up with the 172 loom.
At first, the removed wires were a mess, so I tidied and taped them up, as can be seen in the picture. Now all I had left were two connector blocks, 3 pairs of wires (Oil Level, Coolant Temp and Alternator), so these needed joining to the 172 loom.
Whats left to connect...
I stripped all the loom tape off the 172 loom, and laid the connector blocks/partial Valver loom in the correct places. You can see in the picture how everything matches up to the correct place. Now I knew the loom did fit, I started to remove everything that was not needed from the 172 loom, wiring wise. This started with cutting the main connector block off, and then removing wiring.
This included: Air Conditioning Wiring, 172 Alternator Wiring, 172 Oil Level Sensor Wiring, Speedo Sensor Wiring, some wiring that lead to the PAS system, and a lot of wires leading to the ECU that were no longer needed.
You can see in the picture below how much of the loom was removed. Next I joined the wires from the valver connector blocks to the bare wires off the 172 loom, there was only around 5/6 as im retaining the 3 connectors and associated wiring from the Valver loom.
The last job I did today was to wire two wires onto two of the wires what were cut off the ECU, which are the fault finding lines. This will allow the OBD port from the interior 172 loom to be wired up. Basically its nearly there, just need to sort of the permanant lives from the connector blocks to the 172 loom, then it just needs wrapping back up, and thats one job out of the way, hopefully it should be plug in and go!
I have also documented the Valver Ph1 + Ph2, and 172 looms in PDF format if anyone ever needs them. I have also gone over alot of the images and labelled them to make this whole process alot easier if anyone else ever needs help with doing it. Contact me if you want to see any of the images or PDFs!
Day 135
Now I knew what needed to be removed from the valver loom, that was the first job for today. I double checked that the right wires were being kept, then pulled them out of the loom, along with chopping all the unused wires off; obviously leaving enough spare to join up with the 172 loom.
At first, the removed wires were a mess, so I tidied and taped them up, as can be seen in the picture. Now all I had left were two connector blocks, 3 pairs of wires (Oil Level, Coolant Temp and Alternator), so these needed joining to the 172 loom.
Whats left to connect...
I stripped all the loom tape off the 172 loom, and laid the connector blocks/partial Valver loom in the correct places. You can see in the picture how everything matches up to the correct place. Now I knew the loom did fit, I started to remove everything that was not needed from the 172 loom, wiring wise. This started with cutting the main connector block off, and then removing wiring.
This included: Air Conditioning Wiring, 172 Alternator Wiring, 172 Oil Level Sensor Wiring, Speedo Sensor Wiring, some wiring that lead to the PAS system, and a lot of wires leading to the ECU that were no longer needed.
You can see in the picture below how much of the loom was removed. Next I joined the wires from the valver connector blocks to the bare wires off the 172 loom, there was only around 5/6 as im retaining the 3 connectors and associated wiring from the Valver loom.
The last job I did today was to wire two wires onto two of the wires what were cut off the ECU, which are the fault finding lines. This will allow the OBD port from the interior 172 loom to be wired up. Basically its nearly there, just need to sort of the permanant lives from the connector blocks to the 172 loom, then it just needs wrapping back up, and thats one job out of the way, hopefully it should be plug in and go!
I have also documented the Valver Ph1 + Ph2, and 172 looms in PDF format if anyone ever needs them. I have also gone over alot of the images and labelled them to make this whole process alot easier if anyone else ever needs help with doing it. Contact me if you want to see any of the images or PDFs!
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Re: Mk1 Hybrid Project
F*ck that!
Awesome work, as always dude...
F*ck that!
Awesome work, as always dude...
