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My new Saxo VTS: Two Tone content.
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Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Personally, when you can buy a Gti6 setup for £75, that is bigger & offers better stopping power, you'd be bonkers to buy the DS2500's.
Unless they were 30 quid.
They were only slight more than £30 Dave. Brand new.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
LOL @ 'pirate'
DC2 TypeR / E36 328i
this x100000
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
VTS's are awesome, so under rated!
My standard 106 GTi made 133bhp @ 6390rpm. That thing was a f**king animal up to 100mph
My standard 106 GTi made 133bhp @ 6390rpm. That thing was a f**king animal up to 100mph
BIFCAIDS
ClioSport Club Member
340i M-Sport & 182
Always wanted a 106 GTi in Moonstone blue
I was after a GTI but for the premium you pay over a VTS, it wasn't happening...
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Awesome 
looks a tidy example. Been after my mates two tone vtr for ages and almost bought it the other week but he had to keep it
I'll have it one day! If I don't get something 2.0 first
looks a tidy example. Been after my mates two tone vtr for ages and almost bought it the other week but he had to keep it I'll have it one day! If I don't get something 2.0 first
Yeah buying it from Martin mate!!!
172 Ph1, Lupo GTI
except all you are doing is altering the effort required to apply the brakes. For the same force being applied by your foot the car will brake harder, though ultimately only the tyres and weight transfer will dictate the majority of braking performance. Even pads are mostly about providing consistency on braking performance though the race compounds give a better initial bite and some resist compression better than oe, so improve pedal feel this way too.
Picked the car up last night, and the brakes are actually laughable!
Pressing the pedal results in the car coming to a stop in what seems an age.
Hoping the DS2500's and new discs (which I am getting cheap enough to justify over the GTI-6 set up) improve the breaking, as at the minute its actually dangerous - even if it passed the MOT!
If you think the 182 brakes are crap - they are amazing upto the Saxo's!!!! lol
Pressing the pedal results in the car coming to a stop in what seems an age.
Hoping the DS2500's and new discs (which I am getting cheap enough to justify over the GTI-6 set up) improve the breaking, as at the minute its actually dangerous - even if it passed the MOT!
If you think the 182 brakes are crap - they are amazing upto the Saxo's!!!! lol
The seats are SO comfy, its smashes over pot-holes, but where as in the 182's it crashed from bump to bump, the saxo's seats (like arm chairs) seem to soak up the majority of the bumps....
Loving it so far, the turn-in is EPIC
Loving it so far, the turn-in is EPIC
Great to drive aren't they. I found the same thing as u you with the brakes when I picked mine up last November, picked up a 266mm set up from a 206 GTI with brand new discs and nearly new pads for £80, had them fitted within the hour. Car scrubs speed off so quickly now!
I think its the pressure you have to apply thats so different - if you stamp on them hard they do actually work, just takes some getting used to I suppose..
Yeah you have to really stand on the pedal lol. Then again, my mate bought a 52 plate GTI with 39k on, 1 lady owner. Standard brakes on that felt perfectly adequate.
Even with my 266mm they never feel bitey, you have to put a fair bit of pressure on the pedal but I'm told this is resolved with the master cylinder off a 306 Sir_Dave mentioned.
Even with my 266mm they never feel bitey, you have to put a fair bit of pressure on the pedal but I'm told this is resolved with the master cylinder off a 306 Sir_Dave mentioned.
From 60 to 0 I bet you mine are worse and take longer... lol
Getting some DS2500's on soon though should make them abit better.
s**t brakes all the way it seems! lol
172 Ph1, Lupo GTI
oe pad compound is nothing special and can be ineffective and uninspiring. I've used far worse design calipers with the right type compounds with great effect. I've got plenty of race customers who have to use the standard calipers and they manage to cope better than most saxo owners on the internet.
Thanks for the input mate, hoping the Ferodo's give better performance than what's on at the moment, OEM probably...
DC2 TypeR / E36 328i
Glad to hear you're enjoying the car, but even with fancy pads you wont be stopping as effectively as you would with the GTi6 setup! Especially at the price, I think you've wasted your money on the Ferodos.
After driving to work this morning, they aren't actuall that bad, you just have to get on the pedal hard for them to work, totally different to other brakes I've used....
DC2 TypeR / E36 328i
I only had the VTS brakes on for a couple of days before swapping to the GTi6 283mm, and tbh it's the first time I've really noticed better braking in all conditions, I can't recommend it enough.
My mate had a VTS on stock brakes and he was constantly winging about them!
My mate had a VTS on stock brakes and he was constantly winging about them!
I might give French Sport Tuning a call and see how much the conversion is then....
I take it only the fronts need to be swapped and the rears can stay standard?
DC2 TypeR / E36 328i
I only changed the front, I did have a bit of squeaking now and then which I never got to the bottom of, was either the pads needing grease or it needing the larger master cylinder (probably the latter!)
Feel free to call in for a brew if you do mate. They're only around the corner from me.
Yeah I will do Jim cheers mate - they need to answer their bloody phone first!!!!
Loving it TBH mate!
Is yours standard, as mine has a decat and exhaust/induction etc and actually feels more torquey low down than my 182's did!!!
It sets off in 2nd and pulls hard in 5th at 30mph :S
Its just REALLY low lol
Only just seen this. Great buy. I saw one parked up once and though it was someone who had just used a wrap on the lower half, didn't realise they were made like that. Looks mint
Cheers mate
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
That looks fairly low. How are you finding it? It was between a VTS and a Zetec-S for me, went for the ZS due to them having a slightly better image than VTS's where I live.
Wish I'd got one for the extra power though.
Wish I'd got one for the extra power though.
Yeah its low mate - I cant touch the floor with my fingers if I open the window lol
Loving it so far, even with it being low - its comfier than my lowered 182's for some reason, and its every bit at fast too, Id say off the mark upto 50 ish its actually slightly quicker...
Gona get some propper photos this weekend and get a propper review up
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah its low mate - I cant touch the floor with my fingers if I open the window lol
Loving it so far, even with it being low - its comfier than my lowered 182's for some reason, and its every bit at fast too, Id say of the mark upto 50 ish it actually quicker...
Gona get some propper photos this weekend and get a propper review up
Sounds good! I see you've had issues with the brakes, now I had a clio 1.2 and the brakes on that were sharp as hell (brembo vented discs and EBC Greenstuff pads) and I got in this and nearly died! The brakes seemed awful, once you get used to them though you're fine, you just really need to plant your foot for them to work if it's anything like the ZS.
And with regards to speed, I imagine there isnt a lot in it between a 182 and a VTS, although I know before I raised my ZS slightly it seemed a lot faster than it was, I could touch the floor with it wound all the way down, now I've wound them up im about an inch off.
