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My new Saxo VTS: Two Tone content.
- Thread starter Matthew
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DC2 TypeR / E36 328i
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RB 182
CS.Net user convert already Martin (quikishsilver by the way
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)Aright mate!
Yeah all is well, fitted some new wipers as the ones it had were just about done lol
Also got a touch up pen from Citroen for the door scratch, the WORST colour match of all time, it looks worse!!! Lol
Might get it sprayed eventually.
It's a good site mate, just don't put a Driving Story up, newbs get flamed by the forum police
106 gti's are very popular over here, lotsof people having upgraded from them or 'downgrade' to them similar to Matthew. Is yours the cherry red one?
Hi guys, not an update as such but thought I would post a few quick pictures I took with the iphone earlier (couldnt be bothered getting the Canon out) and a brief write up comparing it to the 182's I have owned for those possibly looking to "downgrade".
So, what do I make of the VTS?
Performance wise, I would say it is on par with both 182's I have owned upto higher speeds where the 182 would start to pull.
Had a little play with an Audi S3 (225) upto 77mph up hill and the S3 pulled about 2 car lengths. Not bad for a 1.6 I though!
The turn in is alot faster than the RS Clio, athough I feel the Saxo is less stable through the bends. If you hit a bump or sudden dip for example it is really unpredictable, un-like the Clio where you feel in control.
The brakes are not as good, but not as bad as I first thought. Just different.
The interior is no where near as bad as people claim, I actually prefer the dash and seats in the Saxo over the Clio!
Pedals (bear in mind I am size 11) are fine. People would have you beleive they are un-drivable, they aren't. Feel small and close together but it hasn't been a problem at all for me.
It has THE BEST heater I have ever seen in a car. Two minutes from cold and its like an oven (which is nice when its -3 outside lol)
Thanks for reading.
photo by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
photo3 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
11 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
8 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
So, what do I make of the VTS?
Performance wise, I would say it is on par with both 182's I have owned upto higher speeds where the 182 would start to pull.
Had a little play with an Audi S3 (225) upto 77mph up hill and the S3 pulled about 2 car lengths. Not bad for a 1.6 I though!
The turn in is alot faster than the RS Clio, athough I feel the Saxo is less stable through the bends. If you hit a bump or sudden dip for example it is really unpredictable, un-like the Clio where you feel in control.
The brakes are not as good, but not as bad as I first thought. Just different.
The interior is no where near as bad as people claim, I actually prefer the dash and seats in the Saxo over the Clio!
Pedals (bear in mind I am size 11) are fine. People would have you beleive they are un-drivable, they aren't. Feel small and close together but it hasn't been a problem at all for me.
It has THE BEST heater I have ever seen in a car. Two minutes from cold and its like an oven (which is nice when its -3 outside lol)
Thanks for reading.
photo by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
photo3 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
11 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
8 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Glad you're enjoying it!! Always make me giggle on here, people slate the saxo constantly, then spend £££'s making their clio handle like one, ie rear ARB & stiffer suspension for a more nervous/twitchy rear end, combined with more front camber for a better turn in. Plebs.
I still maintain that my Vts was infinitely more fun/adjustable than the Trophy.
I still maintain that my Vts was infinitely more fun/adjustable than the Trophy.
Cheers Dave.
Yeah the turn in is pretty epic but like you say, you have to keep an eye on the rear! lol
Yeah the turn in is pretty epic but like you say, you have to keep an eye on the rear! lol
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
Well yeah ... if in doubt, keep your foot in!! Lift off at your peril lol ...
Lol I'll remember that Dave...
Speed for Safety.
Speed for Safety.
I loved my saxo when I had it but the clio is definitely a step up from it.
If Citroen hadn't released the vtr I doubt the same stigma would've been attached to saxos. It was aimed at young drivers and that coupled with the free insurance made them highly accessible to young hormonal dudes.
Looks nice in those pics.
If Citroen hadn't released the vtr I doubt the same stigma would've been attached to saxos. It was aimed at young drivers and that coupled with the free insurance made them highly accessible to young hormonal dudes.
Looks nice in those pics.
I definatly agree with you Jim. I'd swap it for another RS just for the added comfort. But for less than half the price they are hard to beat!
They're great value. I paid 750 for my amazon green one with 12 months test and 6 months tax!
Cant be beaten....
I was close to buying a black MK2 VTS on 60k for £900 before I got the 6. Unbelievably cheap really - and they're superb cars from a driving perspective
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Lol that reminded me of a story my mate told me about him being on a spirited drive and hitting a bump while changing gear... Ended up in the next lane in neutral while accellerating lol
Its true though! lol
Not sure exactly why, maybe they are just ultra-stiff but it is not a stable car....
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Ultra stiff, weighs the same as a shoe, goes quite fast... Recepie for being unpredictable IMO lol
Disastra Coupe
I like all the stuff i read in the last few posts. People actually talking sense! Saxo's are awesome - okay, s**t image but when it's that fun for so little money who gives two s***s :rasp:
As Dave has already told you, lower brace will make a really good difference - i'd always advise people to buy one. And yes, you have to have your wit's about you with the rear end
As Dave has already told you, lower brace will make a really good difference - i'd always advise people to buy one. And yes, you have to have your wit's about you with the rear end
Quick photo I took this evening, was getting dark so not the best....
IMG_3985 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
Desperatly needs a drivers door dent removing and spraying, its just finding the time at the moment...
Matt.
IMG_3985 by Matt Walker 1986, on Flickr
Desperatly needs a drivers door dent removing and spraying, its just finding the time at the moment...
Matt.
It's hard not spending money on our 'money saving cars' isn't it Matt lol.
I keep looking at things for the clio but end up talking myself out of it, not worth it in the long run! Get little bits that REALLY annoy you sorted and be content It's about as good as saxos get, nice and subtle. I like.
I keep looking at things for the clio but end up talking myself out of it, not worth it in the long run! Get little bits that REALLY annoy you sorted and be content
It's about as good as saxos get, nice and subtle. I like.It's hard not spending money on our 'money saving cars' isn't it Matt lol.
I keep looking at things for the clio but end up talking myself out of it, not worth it in the long run! Get little bits that REALLY annoy you sorted and be content
Cheers Chris.
Yeah its just little things that are annoying me at the min, a few little dents here and there and the drivers door with a dent/scratch.
If I hadnt just bought a house they would have been fixed a week ago lol
Its only got to last me circa 12 months then we will be getting something new
Lol so true.
When I was about 19 I had a blue VTR, which was lowered a touch, dam nice car.
Took a bend slightly too fast, lifted off mid bend, and it was game over.
Ended up on its side through a wall facing the wrong way lol
172 Cup
Haha no way dude! I had a 'miss hap' in my topaz gold VTR off when i was 19, lifted off mid corner and it was goodnight
big regret of my driving history but you learn from these things lolflol Proper!
Never had anything like that with my GTi, mustn't have been trying hard enough!
Twitchy little cars. lol
Best thing that ever happened to me though really, I grew up instantly...
Drive like a granny these days
I get my kicks from MPG.
Best thing that ever happened to me though really, I grew up instantly...
Drive like a granny these days
I get my kicks from MPG.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Haha no way dude! I had a 'miss hap' in my topaz gold VTR off when i was 19, lifted off mid corner and it was goodnight
I remember hearing about that, was that the bump that wasnt too bad but since it was a Saxo it ended up annihilated?
172 Cup
Nah it was just bad full stop mate lol learned ALOT from that though.
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
Thought this was making a flying visit to TOPO today. Was hoping to have a nosey round but didn't see it.
Thought this was making a flying visit to TOPO today. Was hoping to have a nosey round but didn't see it.
I was sofa shopping mate, the Mrs won the argument
lol
welshname
ClioSport Club Member
Pffft...Women ruin everyones fun.
At standard height they are very predictable and controllable I think, which explains your experience compared with Matts!
The instablity Matt describes is bump steer from being low I reckon.
Had mine lowered at the weekend, takes corners faster but is thrown out of line easier and is as a result, a little less predictable. Standard set up wins for road IMO!
Ah well, there we go!
I was always tempted to go lower, but it was just too good as standard IMO!
How low have you gone?
I was always tempted to go lower, but it was just too good as standard IMO!
How low have you gone?
A very conservative 25mm all round, rides nice and has sharpened the handling up a lot, just when it hits a bump mid bend it can skip about a bit lol!
As for the dents Matt, I haven't seen a 106/Saxo without them, the panels dink so easily! Wouldn't get worrying about them, its a 10 year old french car thats pretty tidy overall
As for the dents Matt, I haven't seen a 106/Saxo without them, the panels dink so easily! Wouldn't get worrying about them, its a 10 year old french car thats pretty tidy overall
