New prototype in the cold light of day

[Tom@JMS]

Something we've cobbled together other the last few months behind the scenes - a few of you should see the significance of it

On the car ready for the next stage of map development. Very much a prototype in its current state as many of the tertiary parts have not moved to production yet such as a TB backing plate - however the core concept is finished. Running well at the moment

 

[Cro]

Is it something halfway between throttle bodies and an airbox? We demand a RR :rasp:
Looks awesome in carbon anyway

 

[Nick172Cup]

So sexy as I said yesterday, looks the business matey! How long do you reckon before its on the market?

 

[Tigger]

That looks cool

 

[Tom@JMS]

Is it something halfway between throttle bodies and an airbox?

It's a direct replacement inlet manifold - implements all of the existing sensors, ECU, & TB. The Plenum is formed from 7 ply CF for vacuum integrity and formed for maximum flow efficiency.

 

[Gray]

Looks smart guys, jenvey manifold?

 

[Tom@JMS]

Looks smart guys, jenvey manifold?

Correct - but with Injector bosses added in house - the normal Jenvey setup places the injectors in the spacers after the base manifold. Every other part has been designed by myself and manufactured using local companies.

 

[Gray]

That's why you seemed so clued up on my thread about the jenvey manifolds


Looks very smart, when is it going for mapping?

 

[David Ramsey]

Will this work? I was under the impression that the inlets should be of equal length. Surely number 1 cylinder will command a better air flow if it's hollow inside?

 

[Christopher.]

looks amazing.

 

[Tom@JMS]

That's why you seemed so clued up on my thread about the jenvey manifolds

Yeah, this thing has been my life for the past 6 months, many 4am finishes! Mapping is TBC. It runs very well on the Fastchip calibration already on the ECU with no significant issues, although that said it has not been pushed that hard yet!

Will this work? I was under the impression that the inlets should be of equal length. Surely number 1 cylinder will command a better air flow if it's hollow inside?

I don't fully understand your question, but I can assure you the runners are equal in length.

 

[TimR26]

Will this work? I was under the impression that the inlets should be of equal length. Surely number 1 cylinder will command a better air flow if it's hollow inside?

They wouldn't release this if it's doesn't.

 

[Brian172]

Impressive!
What you expecting power wise from this?

 

[Davis]

wow very interesting! any idea of when this will be on the market? price?

George

 

[jenic]

This looks very interesting.

How does the power delivery with this compare to ITB's? Any idea on expected gains too?

 

[Tom@JMS]

Final prices, gains etc are still realistically 2 months away and that's not what the thread is for.

So have patience and key an eye on a traders section.

 

[Brian172]

Final prices, gains etc are still realistically 2 months away. So have patience

You tease lol

 

[Gray]

LOL... At the people asking for prices, power gains etc.

 

[Tom@JMS]

How does the power delivery with this compare to ITB's? Any idea on expected gains too?

Neither can be determined until the car is correctly calibrated & RR'd. That said the theory & numbers suggest a change in delivery towards the top end - so we'll have to see

 

[jenic]

Neither can be determined until the car is correctly calibrated & RR'd. That said the theory & numbers suggest a change in delivery towards the top end - so we'll have to see

Does sound very interesting, I'll be keeping an eye on this

 

[Sir_Dave]

Looks sublime, kinda like a M3 CSL airbox/inlet for a clio ....

And they work/sound fairly well iirc

Sorry. Had to get something BMW related in my post.

 

[oliver.james]

Looks very nice!

 

[Tom@JMS]

Looks sublime, kinda like a M3 CSL airbox/inlet for a clio ....

It's just a shame the 182's engine bay is such a state - poor thing :dapprove:

 

[Vish]

Looks great Tom! Looks amazing, especially from the photos you showed me.

I need to see this tomorrow!

Looks sublime, kinda like a M3 CSL airbox/inlet for a clio ....

And they work/sound fairly well iirc

Sorry. Had to get something BMW related in my post.

lol

hopefully Tom's is cheaper though!

 

[Tom@JMS]

I need to see this tomorrow!

It may not be on the car tmrw mate unfortunately - needs to come off for some development asap!

 

[Brian172]

Sounds interesting, will be watching this one.

 

[maynard]

looks like a good idea, nice work fellas!

 

[theduck]

Looking good lads, cant wait to see results.

Similar concept to the angelworks manifold that hasnt appeared yet, right?

 

[ipodsandguns]

is there a reason its so long? could it not be short to allow a maxogen to be fitted with it trumpet pointing into the grille?

 

[Tom@JMS]

Thanks chaps

Well in the sense that it is a replacement manifold I believe so?

The basic idea is to lift the cars NA performance, whilst retaining all of the standard electronics & functions. Your essentially designing around the cars native language and engine bay space, not cutting into this and throwing away that.

is there a reason its so long? could it not be short to allow a maxogen to be fitted with it trumpet pointing into the grille?

Yes, too clear the coolant hose and for flow reasons that I won't bore you with.

I don't understand why you would want a maxogen - it would more than likely restrict this - not aid it? Trumpets/CAFs to grills etc, forget it - on a car of the Clios pace there is microscopic gains to 'ram' air.

 

[Keith185]

Will be keeping eye on this

 

[.GAZ.]

Time for a dumb ass question.

Is that car running itb's or not?

Gaz

 

[Vicky.]

That looks awesome, impressive work.

 

[theduck]

Time for a dumb ass question.

Is that car running itb's or not?

Gaz

Not.

 

[Tom@JMS]

No - it's a revised intake manifold design - for instance the carbon fiber part is like the RENAULTSPORT part on the standard manifold

 

[ipodsandguns]

I knew there's coolant hoses there but i wouldnt have thought altering a hose for a set up like this would be too much work but i didnt think this was the reason for the length.

Id like to be bored with the air flow stuff if thats cool? iv done plenty of reading upon air flow in induction pre TB but im sure its different post TB and im keene to learn some thing. PM if you dont wanna fill your thread.

This sounds a little argumentative like im challenging your work but im not at all, im just very interested

 

[The Boosh!]

Nice one home brews. Nice too see someone doing something different.

 

[.GAZ.]

Take no notice of me LOL!

 

[Tom@JMS]

Look on pic mate, you can see it on the side

 

[.GAZ.]