No "current consumption" on trip (182)

[Steven103]

I'll keep this short & sweet. P1.50 and P1.52 of the owners manual suggest that when cycling through the trip functions it displays "current consumption" between "average consumption" and "estimated range."

My car however (05 plate) seems to lack "current consumption."

Q: Is this normal?

From a search of the forum there are lots of people mistaking the average consumption for the current consumption and complaining that the number doesn't change much, which would suggest that there is just the one consumption value (unless they are incapable of pressing the button again to cycle through to the next one)

 

[dannyh172]

To get current consumption on my 53plate i have to reset the avg cons then it is current, but then averages out An *actual* current consumption trip thing would be nice tho!

 

[Beef-Mc]

IIRC you put it into diagnostic mode first, then its in that menu of options.

 

[Addicted]

how do we get into diag mode? and can it be done while driving to check it?

 

[Kane.]

I think my 1.2 has this.. When i put my foot down the number goes up like 11.4 or something :s what is this ?

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

I've only ever seen 'average' MPG .. never an 'instant' which is what I think you're getting at, in any of my own or friends Clios, RS or otherwise.

 

[bmh.01]

Don't get current mpg on uk models due to it reading in miles per gallon, euro ones have it due to them reading in l/100km. Comes direct from the ecu so can't be converted so renault disable it. The data is still there you just can't see it.

 

[Ian_s]

You can use an RS tuner to see (and log) the current consumption in L/100km

 

[Steven103]

Don't get current mpg on uk models due to it reading in miles per gallon, euro ones have it due to them reading in l/100km. Comes direct from the ecu so can't be converted so renault disable it.

I don't buy the "it can't be converted" part at all as you can simplify L/100KM > MPG into a conversion factor (0.00235 ish) and my ECU certainly is capable of multiplication or it wouldn't be able to run an engine letalone coordinate ESP, ABS and all the rest. Infact the fact that it can convert the average shows that renault can be bothered to times one of our trip function outputs by a number, so why can't they do the other? I do agree if the trip data is directly outputted from the ECU then UK cars would need a different program to EU cars, but we clearly have a different software anyway since our trip data is in imperial units UNLESS the trip data goes through another proccess to convert it to imperial units.

I definitely would believe that it's disabled for the UK market. At the end of the day the owners manual has all the pics in L/100KM, KM etc so it's obviously written with Europe in mind then translated. Thanks for the answer!


But yeah, we can debate this all day but thanks for confirming that UK spec cars aren't supposed to have it. Thanks for your help!

 

[Kane.]

reading in l/100km.

Amount of litres used per 100km ?

 

[Steven103]

Amount of litres used per 100km ?

Yes. L/100KM is how the Europeans, Americans and Japanese (that I know of) measure fuel consumption.

 

[Ian_s]

Americans most certainly don't use it, they use miles to their smaller gallon.

 

[bmh.01]

I don't buy the "it can't be converted" part at all as you can simplify L/100KM > MPG into a conversion factor (0.00235 ish) and my ECU certainly is capable of multiplication or it wouldn't be able to run an engine letalone coordinate ESP, ABS and all the rest. Infact the fact that it can convert the average shows that renault can be bothered to times one of our trip function outputs by a number, so why can't they do the other? I do agree if the trip data is directly outputted from the ECU then UK cars would need a different program to EU cars, but we clearly have a different software anyway since our trip data is in imperial units UNLESS the trip data goes through another proccess to convert it to imperial units.

I definitely would believe that it's disabled for the UK market. At the end of the day the owners manual has all the pics in L/100KM, KM etc so it's obviously written with Europe in mind then translated. Thanks for the answer!


But yeah, we can debate this all day but thanks for confirming that UK spec cars aren't supposed to have it. Thanks for your help!

The only trip computer value that comes from the ECU is the instaneous fuel consumption, the rest is calculated in the dials. The dials may be capable of doing conversion but obviously they weren't bother/can't/not a proirity to allow the ecu to output in mpg.