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Brigsy
ClioSport Club Member
T.Turbo
Twin scroll turbo so one wastegate for each scroll on the turbo, with 2x exhaust ports feeding each side. In theory one large gate would work but thats how Nortech set it up.
It does spool quite fast for a low comp engine and large turbo, so overall it works decent. All in around 3800rpm from memory. Boost control is rock solid hits whatever level its set at, and holds it right to the 7800rpm rev limiter.
Brigsy
ClioSport Club Member
T.Turbo
Quick wash before work this morning. It wasnt really mucky being honest, but any excuse to use my new di resin water filter 
In other news, it has a date booked in very soon to see a man about some more horses. Hopefully the power gods will anlign and we will see a good figure this time🤞
In other news, it has a date booked in very soon to see a man about some more horses. Hopefully the power gods will anlign and we will see a good figure this time🤞
Brigsy
ClioSport Club Member
T.Turbo
Done a bit on this yesterday.
Its in for mapping this week and nothing like a good short deadline to get projects moving. Made a start trying to get a couple of jobs done that ive put off for ages. These are non essential/nice to have so doesnt really matter if completed or not but be nice.
Wheel speed. I need vss to work on driven wheels for boost by gear. Dont want to tap into abs, actually not sure if it works but no light on dash so whatever, leave it be..
Brainstorming last week on how to fit a hall sensor to read off abs ring and dug a spare hub out to mock up. There is 3 random holes on the 182 hubs for whatever reason, maybe they planned on fitting a s**t guard behind disc at one point. These look like holes full of rust but actually m6 threaded when you look closely. Chased the hole out with a tap, one l shaped bracket made and it looks like a goer.
Cleaned up the setop and transferred to the car.
Bit of wiring.
Ran the car up on axle stands. Did it read? Did it f**k😅 messed about with pullup settings no joy.
After a bit of digging id ordered the wrong sensor, this is supposed to be 2wire hall (i think its reluctor anyway) and requires a magnet installed to read off. Prob could make it work if i moved sensor/installed magnets.
Ive ordered a 3 wire hall sensor that doesnt need magnet and will read off ferrous toothed ring to replace. Not holding my breath as feel like abs ring may have too many teeth but we will see. The legwork is done now so its simply swap out sensor and fit new one adding a 12v supply wire.
One bonus is i got a shorter sensor so more clearance on rcl kit as the current one is tight. I done a bit of sniffing round and the recommended sensors are the cherry red ones at £80+ from most places. It turns out its just a bog standard zf hall sensor that Rs components sell for £30ish. So not too bothered if it doesnt work.
Took it out for a quick run as not moved in weeks. All good nothing to report.
Its in for mapping this week and nothing like a good short deadline to get projects moving. Made a start trying to get a couple of jobs done that ive put off for ages. These are non essential/nice to have so doesnt really matter if completed or not but be nice.
Wheel speed. I need vss to work on driven wheels for boost by gear. Dont want to tap into abs, actually not sure if it works but no light on dash so whatever, leave it be..
Brainstorming last week on how to fit a hall sensor to read off abs ring and dug a spare hub out to mock up. There is 3 random holes on the 182 hubs for whatever reason, maybe they planned on fitting a s**t guard behind disc at one point. These look like holes full of rust but actually m6 threaded when you look closely. Chased the hole out with a tap, one l shaped bracket made and it looks like a goer.
Cleaned up the setop and transferred to the car.
Bit of wiring.
Ran the car up on axle stands. Did it read? Did it f**k😅 messed about with pullup settings no joy.
After a bit of digging id ordered the wrong sensor, this is supposed to be 2wire hall (i think its reluctor anyway) and requires a magnet installed to read off. Prob could make it work if i moved sensor/installed magnets.
Ive ordered a 3 wire hall sensor that doesnt need magnet and will read off ferrous toothed ring to replace. Not holding my breath as feel like abs ring may have too many teeth but we will see. The legwork is done now so its simply swap out sensor and fit new one adding a 12v supply wire.
One bonus is i got a shorter sensor so more clearance on rcl kit as the current one is tight. I done a bit of sniffing round and the recommended sensors are the cherry red ones at £80+ from most places. It turns out its just a bog standard zf hall sensor that Rs components sell for £30ish. So not too bothered if it doesnt work.
Took it out for a quick run as not moved in weeks. All good nothing to report.
Adey.
ClioSport Club Member
whats the plan for the mapping, time to go balls out and start pushing things or just a little tidy up?
Brigsy
ClioSport Club Member
T.Turbo
Full send if fuel system allows mate, All in. Max out the turbo if all goes well. Tidy up a few bits as flywheel is lighter etc.
Ive advised Chris that we might need to do some fuel system diag as ive gone as far as i can with it really.
Adey.
ClioSport Club Member
Brigsy
ClioSport Club Member
T.Turbo
Update
ZF gear tooth speed sensor arrived today (part no GS100701). This is the same sensor ive seen for £70 -100 on a few tuner places, where in reality its £30 from Rs Components.
With weather being good and curious to see if it was a goer, i freed a couple of hours up this afternoon to fit it to the Trophy.
It was a relatively easy fit as straight into my homemade bracket. Small amount of extra wiring as 3 wire. The sensor is rated from 5v to 24v dc. I planned on wiring 12v but without butchering more wiring in fusebox for an ign live, i decided to give it a go on the ecu sensor 5v circuit, using sensor earth on ecu and vss pin.
The spec sheet says give it a 1k pullup at 5v and ecumaster has that selectable on the ecu so no adding external pullup resistors.
I was not really confident this would work on the 182 abs ring, as the spec sheet has minimum specs for tooth height, gap etc and the 182 abs ring is a fair bit smaller than suggested.
With the send it, it will either read or not approach, i fired the car up with front end on axle stands and ran it up in gear. It only reported vss frequency on the logs straight away so was a goer.
Initially it said aomething daft like 180kmh at 20mph, messed about with the frequency divider setting it at 4, and fine tuning with the speed ratio i managed to get it to read about c**k on with oem speedo in kmh of course as metric only.
Took it out and with the mrs driving, i set up the gear calculations so the ecu knows what gear we are in. This is done by viewing the gear ratio log, and inputting the average of the numbers logged on each step when in gear as seen below in green.
As no gear sensor on the box, gear selection is calculated by rpm & wheel speed (might be wrong but im fairly confident). Anyway it appears to work well, with tunerview actually logging gear selected for first time ever. Prob still needs a little tweak, im sure Chris will fine tune it if needs be.
Vss should add a few nice features. Oem stuff like throttle strategies for increased idle when rolling up to junctions out of gear. Possibly throttle blipper but might not work without gear sensor.
The spicey stuff like boost by gear, rolling anti lag, launch etc should work though. With the f4r being piss weak ill prob not use the latter two but boost by gear will be superb.
ZF gear tooth speed sensor arrived today (part no GS100701). This is the same sensor ive seen for £70 -100 on a few tuner places, where in reality its £30 from Rs Components.
With weather being good and curious to see if it was a goer, i freed a couple of hours up this afternoon to fit it to the Trophy.
It was a relatively easy fit as straight into my homemade bracket. Small amount of extra wiring as 3 wire. The sensor is rated from 5v to 24v dc. I planned on wiring 12v but without butchering more wiring in fusebox for an ign live, i decided to give it a go on the ecu sensor 5v circuit, using sensor earth on ecu and vss pin.
The spec sheet says give it a 1k pullup at 5v and ecumaster has that selectable on the ecu so no adding external pullup resistors.
I was not really confident this would work on the 182 abs ring, as the spec sheet has minimum specs for tooth height, gap etc and the 182 abs ring is a fair bit smaller than suggested.
With the send it, it will either read or not approach, i fired the car up with front end on axle stands and ran it up in gear. It only reported vss frequency on the logs straight away so was a goer.
Initially it said aomething daft like 180kmh at 20mph, messed about with the frequency divider setting it at 4, and fine tuning with the speed ratio i managed to get it to read about c**k on with oem speedo in kmh of course as metric only.
Took it out and with the mrs driving, i set up the gear calculations so the ecu knows what gear we are in. This is done by viewing the gear ratio log, and inputting the average of the numbers logged on each step when in gear as seen below in green.
As no gear sensor on the box, gear selection is calculated by rpm & wheel speed (might be wrong but im fairly confident). Anyway it appears to work well, with tunerview actually logging gear selected for first time ever. Prob still needs a little tweak, im sure Chris will fine tune it if needs be.
Vss should add a few nice features. Oem stuff like throttle strategies for increased idle when rolling up to junctions out of gear. Possibly throttle blipper but might not work without gear sensor.
The spicey stuff like boost by gear, rolling anti lag, launch etc should work though. With the f4r being piss weak ill prob not use the latter two but boost by gear will be superb.
Speedo Gonzales
ClioSport Club Member
The brain of Brigsy!!!
I swear every car you build is better than what these 'specialists' produce. Can't wait to see this sending c***s to Gapistan! 😂
I swear every car you build is better than what these 'specialists' produce. Can't wait to see this sending c***s to Gapistan! 😂
