BMW 440i
Dewipered?
If the bonnet has been on ages, does this mean i could be right?
Guessing the 2kg could be made up with the motor inside aswell?
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If the bonnet has been on ages, does this mean i could be right?
Guessing the 2kg could be made up with the motor inside aswell?
ipodsandguns
ClioSport Club Member
GW X200 CUP
Bet it didnt counter balance the weight of skirts and sealant?
Looks great though bro.
Looks great though bro.
matt shouted at me for this today too... i likeeee the carrrpettt, does it have to go?
whats that meant to mean?! just because they have a mild cf effect, can you even imagine the abuse they'd take, i fitted these for no other reason that they look mean as hell and lower the centre of the car ridiculously.
they arent easy to fit really and require cutting, i guarantee you'd fcuk it up.
they arent easy to fit really and require cutting, i guarantee you'd fcuk it up.
F250/RS5/A500/F150
oh and the pic of the underneath of your car, you havent sheared the bolts off, they arnt bolts they are just like threaded sticks then the heat shield has holes in it that lines up with them then you just put a nut onto the threaded stick to hold it in place, if its rattling (like mine is) its because you are missing a nut to hold it in place
LiquidRich
ClioSport Club Member
LY R27
But this isn't taking into account the themal variant of the aerodynamic dynamics, fluid and thermal dynamics suggest that as the air passes over the vehicle and creates the vorticies you speak of that they heat up, this then effects drag (increasing it) and negates negative pressure by a small amount. so by adding in the correct figure into the following formaula Vc/f4r-rs*fz+17.5% it tells you that these skirts drop the downforce from 2% above a 197 diffuser to 6.75% below on.
If you had put the skirts on the roof as I suggested you would have achieved the 2% above the 197 diffuser you were after, clearly looks were more important to you than actual aero gains. Next time think about thermal expansion and its effects on the vorticies.
Thanks
F250/RS5/A500/F150
whats that meant to mean?! just because they have a mild cf effect, can you even imagine the abuse they'd take, i fitted these for no other reason that they look mean as hell and lower the centre of the car ridiculously.
they arent easy to fit really and require cutting, i guarantee you'd fcuk it up.
i was only joking dr naith, and i wouldnt, im alot more skilled with that type of thing than people think! dont underestimate the brench lol
no its not, the thread is sheared, the bolts wont catch at all... they were bent as they are attached to the chassis so have taken a knock. a heavy impact or stress causes that.
heaven forbid i actually checked.
F250/RS5/A500/F150
they are quiet long though, could you not heat them up bend them back then rethread them, or cut them down to the bit were it starts to be threaded again?
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
He calculated all of that while waiting to come on cam.
LiquidRich
ClioSport Club Member
LY R27
Oft....
LiquidRich
ClioSport Club Member
LY R27
sorry rich, your idea was great and when i ran it through a CAD setup i found 844>/xf wasnt pushing the centifuge down to my specification... alas i have just spoken to eric boullier at renaultf1 and have some exciting developments.
That's all well and good, but I'd like to point out that Eric was on the phone to me Saturday afternoon telling me how amazing all my work and calculations were on the new F duct, it made a huge amount of difference. Kubica loves it so much he said he'd dedicate the race to me if he got on the podium.
Oh and FYI 844>/xf is incorrect, its 844.182>/xf
I lol'd at this, purely because I've only ever seen Naith in flipflops the ghey Swiller.
Poor Rich! IIRC detailing is hard with three wheels off and two brake disks to go on? See below;
forearms+DA+Menz3.02-room=dayofNayFun.
well, settle down for a read. (forgive my lack of technical knowledge, I'm learning more as I write)
I was going to make a little thread about some nice little harnesses I bought ofF brown bear ready for some buckets when I'd saved for a month or so...
but in true renaultsort style i took it to the next level...
I've never been 100% on the power output on the car, sure the torque brilliant and the cars light, sits well and corners like a good'un, to cure this I took a trip to RST again in leeds to see if the stage 2 could be given a little more poke... Paul mentioned to me the other week that the maps had been tweeked so he should be able to work around the issue with the engine not making power.
whilst there i saw some amazing new goodies that he'll be putting out there soon, I was tempted but its simply not an option until i start to earn some more money... i've never been one to talk about power figures, I'm in the mind of rolls royce and prefer, chill, ample, b00st and Banzai! but I'll give figures in here in the hope that is shows reality and could be of use to people in the future. Anyway..
after some messing about and finishing off some other cars i got on the dyno.
the coilovers arent set 100% and the car needs the corner weighting sorting out again as on the dyno she was pulling all over, something I can live with as I knew it needed sorting out.
so onto the dyno...
first run... the car makes stock, on a stage 2 map... Paul looks worried, I thought he was joking. he tweeks and plays and asks how old the sparks are, old enough is the answer, so he bungs some of his own in to check, this instantly raises the low end power but again the car hits stock. So at least the sparks need changing regardless of the little problem I was thinking, little did I know...
then we move onto the cambelt, it hasn't been done in a while, I was shown receipts for it being done when I purchased the car and that was four years ago, it needs changing asap is the answer to which i agree and know i need to sort as it might be the timing thats out.
Exhaust issues and turbo failure are also ruled out.
Paul wanted to rule out other things so he attached a booster to the battery and did a compression test with Wade (Hughesclio) who happened to be there at the same time.
cylinder 1: 130 psi
cylinder 2: 150+ psi
cylinder 3: 140 psi
cylinder 4: 70 psi
And there in lies the problem, the compression on cylinder four is low, as in LOWWW. thats why the car has never made the power a stage two would and has/is gradually losing power, the severity of this shown by the fact a stage2 map (one that has been tinkered with for ages) only gives the car stock power.
The car boosts at 1.3 bar and is still making over 30 ftlb torque so the turbo side of it is fine. Paul put the map up from his R26R and compared it to mine, the similarity between the maps was scary, they were exactly the same minus the fact mine was 55bhp down on his, but the curve, drop off and boost were identical.
The general consensus is that there might be a water ingress into the cylinder head, as the car is losing coolant slowly (dumping the tank at Oulton in January, but only slowly since) something to do with it creeping into the chamber through a gap. Also one spark was discoloured and paul was certain of water present, along with mild frothing in my coolant tank during all the checks (no idea what it means, but it means something bad). in pauls words... 'its fcuked naithhh'
I went to Leeds thinking I'd be in luck, came home with a bloodied nose.
I drove home feeling sick, its a weird feeling when you crash/cars broke/stolen, im still sat here feeling sorry for myself if im honest. Even now I'm lost as to what to do. I've put too much time and effort into the thing to just break it for parts and at the same time noway can I afford a new engine (even if more work comes in)
leaving Leeds gave me time to reflect...
As it stands the car will go to fred@btm on the friday before Renault world series to have new sparks, i know it wont make much difference but i'd rather the car struggle less before it has blows/gets a rebuild/new engine. (If you have any lying about in Dieppe RUK, look after a brother) Luckily RWS is a show and shine event, otherwise I'd be gutted, I have the car visually looking better than ever so on that front I'm lucky, on every other one I'm not so lucky.. lol
After the show she'll be taken to BTM and endure a slow and painful strip of the heart. In my head I see it being the top of the engine coming off (which after seeing another meg engine this weekend is a bugger in itself) and the head gasket being changed along with the ring landings, cylinders (four is the problem) and all the internals will need looking at too. but due to cost it will be a long process, I have a decat lined up and the new RST uprated pistons will be sorted then too I hope (around the £600 mark) so the engine will be rebuilt strong and with the capacity, bar injectors (that arent working on megs properly still) and hybrid turbo, that can be added (if I have the time/ability/finance) to run more power.. During all this i'll run about in riads 172 which will be roadworthy very soon.
the other option is to wait till finances suit and buy a well priced second hand F4RT engine (preferably with an R26 diff on it) and swap them, adding a decat and playing with the turbo wheels. then she'll see a solid 290/300bhp and 330ftlb torque all day.
third option is to bin the car off...
so yeh, FML. but at the same time I want to say a MAHOOSIVE thanks to paul for spending alot of time outside of the service I'd payed for trying to fix the issue, the care and knowledge is top drawer and also as ever to BTM who have said I can keep the car there whilst the work is done.
as a friend said today, 'Phoenix from the flames Naith..'
have to see...
I was going to make a little thread about some nice little harnesses I bought ofF brown bear ready for some buckets when I'd saved for a month or so...
but in true renaultsort style i took it to the next level...
I've never been 100% on the power output on the car, sure the torque brilliant and the cars light, sits well and corners like a good'un, to cure this I took a trip to RST again in leeds to see if the stage 2 could be given a little more poke... Paul mentioned to me the other week that the maps had been tweeked so he should be able to work around the issue with the engine not making power.
whilst there i saw some amazing new goodies that he'll be putting out there soon, I was tempted but its simply not an option until i start to earn some more money... i've never been one to talk about power figures, I'm in the mind of rolls royce and prefer, chill, ample, b00st and Banzai!
but I'll give figures in here in the hope that is shows reality and could be of use to people in the future. Anyway..after some messing about and finishing off some other cars i got on the dyno.
the coilovers arent set 100% and the car needs the corner weighting sorting out again as on the dyno she was pulling all over, something I can live with as I knew it needed sorting out.
so onto the dyno...
first run... the car makes stock, on a stage 2 map... Paul looks worried, I thought he was joking. he tweeks and plays and asks how old the sparks are, old enough is the answer, so he bungs some of his own in to check, this instantly raises the low end power but again the car hits stock. So at least the sparks need changing regardless of the little problem I was thinking, little did I know...
then we move onto the cambelt, it hasn't been done in a while, I was shown receipts for it being done when I purchased the car and that was four years ago, it needs changing asap is the answer to which i agree and know i need to sort as it might be the timing thats out.
Exhaust issues and turbo failure are also ruled out.
Paul wanted to rule out other things so he attached a booster to the battery and did a compression test with Wade (Hughesclio) who happened to be there at the same time.
cylinder 1: 130 psi
cylinder 2: 150+ psi
cylinder 3: 140 psi
cylinder 4: 70 psi
And there in lies the problem, the compression on cylinder four is low, as in LOWWW. thats why the car has never made the power a stage two would and has/is gradually losing power, the severity of this shown by the fact a stage2 map (one that has been tinkered with for ages) only gives the car stock power.
The car boosts at 1.3 bar and is still making over 30 ftlb torque so the turbo side of it is fine. Paul put the map up from his R26R and compared it to mine, the similarity between the maps was scary, they were exactly the same minus the fact mine was 55bhp down on his, but the curve, drop off and boost were identical.
The general consensus is that there might be a water ingress into the cylinder head, as the car is losing coolant slowly (dumping the tank at Oulton in January, but only slowly since) something to do with it creeping into the chamber through a gap. Also one spark was discoloured and paul was certain of water present, along with mild frothing in my coolant tank during all the checks (no idea what it means, but it means something bad). in pauls words... 'its fcuked naithhh'
I went to Leeds thinking I'd be in luck, came home with a bloodied nose.
I drove home feeling sick, its a weird feeling when you crash/cars broke/stolen, im still sat here feeling sorry for myself if im honest. Even now I'm lost as to what to do. I've put too much time and effort into the thing to just break it for parts and at the same time noway can I afford a new engine (even if more work comes in)
leaving Leeds gave me time to reflect...
As it stands the car will go to fred@btm on the friday before Renault world series to have new sparks, i know it wont make much difference but i'd rather the car struggle less before it has blows/gets a rebuild/new engine. (If you have any lying about in Dieppe RUK, look after a brother
) Luckily RWS is a show and shine event, otherwise I'd be gutted, I have the car visually looking better than ever so on that front I'm lucky, on every other one I'm not so lucky.. lolAfter the show she'll be taken to BTM and endure a slow and painful strip of the heart. In my head I see it being the top of the engine coming off (which after seeing another meg engine this weekend is a bugger in itself) and the head gasket being changed along with the ring landings, cylinders (four is the problem) and all the internals will need looking at too. but due to cost it will be a long process, I have a decat lined up and the new RST uprated pistons will be sorted then too I hope (around the £600 mark) so the engine will be rebuilt strong and with the capacity, bar injectors (that arent working on megs properly still) and hybrid turbo, that can be added (if I have the time/ability/finance) to run more power.. During all this i'll run about in riads 172 which will be roadworthy very soon.
the other option is to wait till finances suit and buy a well priced second hand F4RT engine (preferably with an R26 diff on it) and swap them, adding a decat and playing with the turbo wheels. then she'll see a solid 290/300bhp and 330ftlb torque all day.
third option is to bin the car off...
so yeh, FML. but at the same time I want to say a MAHOOSIVE thanks to paul for spending alot of time outside of the service I'd payed for trying to fix the issue, the care and knowledge is top drawer and also as ever to BTM who have said I can keep the car there whilst the work is done.
as a friend said today, 'Phoenix from the flames Naith..'
have to see...
just incase you go down the new engine route...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2040452.htm
and Cliospares have a 225 megane in for breaking
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2040452.htm
and Cliospares have a 225 megane in for breaking
yeh, i cant afford to give up on her, very lucky that i have good friends around me with advice and offers of help but theres no quick fix... you know me, always thinking, i'll do summit with her. thanks for the encouragement chaps/chapette x
BRB just off to pimp myself out and get the money for a forged build
BRB just off to pimp myself out and get the money for a forged build
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
^ Oh right. :S
Unlucky mate. Gutting.
Free PC cheer you up?
Unlucky mate. Gutting.
Free PC cheer you up?
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
It will live again, no doubt. I still think a replacement engine with fresh belts will be the best/cheapest/most reliable long term solution. Be nothing worse than spending a few hundred and the problem still being there.
:approve: yayyyy.
this weekend? if your not buying carpets?
thats providing a cheap unit comes up, the crank, chamber and cons are apparently fine, turbos good too... but i'm still in limbo, might just drop an egg into it, oh wait...
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Yeah, I'm with Warren on this. Might as well take the chance to refresh it.
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