Why would you buy a cup over a full fat 172?

[Kris 172]

i'm so poor

Me to a Multi- skilled engineer I have no money and London Underground pays everyone Under 16k if they drive Cups

 

[philmots]

i'm broke, brassic, skint... not sure i'll be able afford my membership renewal

 

[Mike_182]

Virtually same power output but the weight difference causes the Cup to watch the 5 sail past.

Torque makes most of the difference - Similar story with Clarkson's Zonda/XJ220 race. Pagani is lighter/more powerful, Jag has turbos and torque.

And a lot of you have missed that I was stereotyping : ok, there are exceptions, but seriously, drive around Notts Trent Uni and Derby. You see cup after cup after cup - and I can tell you now it wasn't for the weight as usually they're five up and full of 'choonz'. Innit.

 

[Serg]

I really like the cups look, but when i got my 172 i thought about how often i was going to be tracking it etc and for me the nicer seats and aircon etc won as its powerful enough for everday driving and its just that bit nicer inside personaly.

 

[Gaz_]

they could have 14 stone of 'choonz' in their cars and still be level pegged with yours.

how you look down on 172 cups is laughable, to 99% of people its a clio, like yours

 

[Kris 172]

Virtually same power output but the weight difference causes the Cup to watch the 5 sail past.

Torque makes most of the difference - Similar story with Clarkson's Zonda/XJ220 race. Pagani is lighter/more powerful, Jag has turbos and torque.

And a lot of you have missed that I was stereotyping : ok, there are exceptions, but seriously, drive around Notts Trent Uni and Derby. You see cup after cup after cup - and I can tell you now it wasn't for the weight as usually they're five up and full of 'choonz'. Innit.

Sorry to rain on your parade you can't get 5 in a Cup there is no middle belt

 

[Mike_182]

they could have 14 stone of 'choonz' in their cars and still be level pegged with yours

bitter?

Not really, no, because if I was really that sad as to want to go as fast as is humanly possible I wouldn't be in a Clio. I'd be sat atop an aluminium fuel tank, on one wheel, giving them the finger and STILL pulling away from them.

The only Clio that is anything other than a daily driver is the 3litre V6 - it's impractical, and as such has an excuse for being designed for fun/entertainment/speed. The 2litre variants have a boot, and back seats, and are designed for people who want to get the odd kick from driving but without losing thier comforts.

 

[Gaz_]

just accept that the weight makes a difference. If you say torque make a difference and the 172/182 have the same torque and bhp......

lose 89kg, what happens

its not hard

 

[John D]

In my opinion (and this is mine, nobody elses) you buy a Cup because you can't afford the decent ones. I don't think anyone can seriously argue that it's a raw, faster, more exciting experience. I can have a raw, fast and exciting experience in mine - while I have my better lights to see where I'm going and my gorgeous seats which I could sleep in! And my driver aids for when I'm caught out...

IMO thats really the reason you did'nt buy a Cup. Not why people do buy Cup's. Some times maybe. Personally price did'nt come into it at all.

Ralph - you were so right!

 

[Graham Gooch]

In my opinion (and this is mine, nobody elses) you buy a Cup because you can't afford the decent ones. I don't think anyone can seriously argue that it's a raw, faster, more exciting experience. I can have a raw, fast and exciting experience in mine - while I have my better lights to see where I'm going and my gorgeous seats which I could sleep in! And my driver aids for when I'm caught out...

IMO thats really the reason you did'nt buy a Cup. Not why people do buy Cup's. Some times maybe. Personally price did'nt come into it at all.

Ralph - you were so right!

Pmsl, I knew it. Tbh anyone who mentions cups and the whole they are cheaper thing are asking for it.

Lol @ this club and its members.

 

[Mike_182]

how you look down on 172 cups is laughable, to 99% of people its a clio, like yours[/quote]

Nice edit, but still - I don't look down on them. Credit to Renault for doing it, but it's wasted in my opinion. It's something I'm entitled to and something I'll stand by.

Baldylocks - you hit the nail on the head. It IS the reason I didn't buy one, but is a discussion forum not a place where you share your opinion with others who may use it to make a decision?

As it stands, so far all I've done is share my opinion and had to justify it. It seems some jumped up fool has taken offence to this (obviously fitting into this category) and decided to challenge it in an argument he can't win, whereas if he'd just shut up and said it's the way he wanted it to look and feel, I can't say anything towards that. It's the reason I bought my old Smart! It looked fun and was great to drive. And before anyone tries this weight argument again, it put out 120bhp and weighed 750kg. The Clio is rediculously quick in comparison, and thats 4 14 stone men vs. 60bhp...

 

[lewisniven]

i went for a cup becuase theres less of them abaout, and i wnated turinis, and cup spoiler. plus i got mine at an absolute steal. It turns loads of heads, it drives amazingly, yet its useable enough for everyday driving.

It all comes down to those times when ur on your own,its 11pm, the temp guage says about 12C and the roads are bone dry. All of a sudden you remember why you brought that car...

 

[Gaz_]

shall i reel in now?

 

[Mike_182]

And back to hitting the nail on the head, why the f**k have I just sat here for half an hour with some t**t building a table on the TV?

 

[Justin182]

I think the phrase " agree to disagree" is appropiate here lol

 

[Gaz_]

how you look down on 172 cups is laughable, to 99% of people its a clio, like yours[/quote]

Nice edit, but still - I don't look down on them. Credit to Renault for doing it, but it's wasted in my opinion. It's something I'm entitled to and something I'll stand by.

Baldylocks - you hit the nail on the head. It IS the reason I didn't buy one, but is a discussion forum not a place where you share your opinion with others who may use it to make a decision?

As it stands, so far all I've done is share my opinion and had to justify it. It seems some jumped up fool has taken offence to this (obviously fitting into this category) and decided to challenge it in an argument he can't win, whereas if he'd just shut up and said it's the way he wanted it to look and feel, I can't say anything towards that. It's the reason I bought my old Smart! It looked fun and was great to drive. And before anyone tries this weight argument again, it put out 120bhp and weighed 750kg. The Clio is rediculously quick in comparison, and thats 4 14 stone men vs. 60bhp...

Not at all, how you can say most CUP owners can't afford a normal 172 is just plain

You just can't accept that i have an opinion thats different to yours

You took the bait

:clown:

 

[Kris 172]

:lolup: Owned

 

[beatjunkie]

wow this is quality, cups do look loads better than 172 i think its the turinis!weight difference isnt really an issue but obviously it will stop quicker and accelerate quicker so is better lol!!!

 

[Gaz_]

wow this is quality, cups do look loads better than 172 i think its the turinis!weight difference isnt really an issue but obviously it will stop quicker and accelerate quicker so is better lol!!!

.... so weight is an issue :rasp:

lol

 

[Mike_182]

Rolls eyes. You guys are so simple. A 'multi-skilled engineer' that can bicker and weld badly at the same time and someone who thinks getting a loan for a set of recaros after buying a cheap car makes him rich. Marvellous!

Chill out will you both. You took the old cheap bait way too easily. I could write a book about this s**t - I'd make a fortune on it!

 

[Gaz_]

kept me entertained for the last half hour

lol at the loan, there you go again, i obviously couldnt pay for recaros out of my own pocket as i have a cup :quiet:

has nothing to do with a good job etc

 

[Kris 172]

Rolls eyes. You guys are so simple. A 'multi-skilled engineer' that can bicker and weld badly at the same time and someone who thinks getting a loan for a set of recaros after buying a cheap car makes him rich. Marvellous!

Chill out will you both. You took the old cheap bait way too easily. I could write a book about this s**t - I'd make a fortune on it!

Lol have you seen my Welding

I have an R5 welding became essential mate.

 

[John D]

And a lot of you have missed that I was stereotyping : ok, there are exceptions, but seriously, drive around Notts Trent Uni and Derby. You see cup after cup after cup - and I can tell you now it wasn't for the weight as usually they're five up and full of 'choonz'. Innit.

I went to Trent for 3 years. Can't remember seeing one Cup tbh - and believe me I was looking, I was pretty obsessed with getting one throughout the final year!

 

[Mike_182]

Lol have you seen my Welding

I have an R5 welding became essential mate.

Have to say I haven't, but I can't weld so can hardly talk! Last time I tried to weld aluminium it fell apart while I was stood on it. That was a few years ago now! But I've repaired quite successfully and restored a Triumph Stag, which, being British and 1970s car, it was built when the welders and the painters were on strike.

The GTT is nothing in comparison to the cheesegrater floor that had!

 

[philmots]

Rolls eyes. You guys are so simple. A 'multi-skilled engineer' that can bicker and weld badly at the same time and someone who thinks getting a loan for a set of recaros after buying a cheap car makes him rich. Marvellous!

Chill out will you both. You took the old cheap bait way too easily. I could write a book about this s**t - I'd make a fortune on it!

Seriously mate there aint any need for the personal digs at people, from my experiance people only do that as they have something to proove to themselves...

 

[Graham Gooch]

TBH Mike your coming across in this thread like a grade A penis.

 

[Mike_182]

I can safely say I can build a table now though!

 

[Mike_182]

Seriously mate there aint any need for the personal digs at people, from my experiance people only do that as they have something to proove to themselves...

I think the people I was talking to/referring to have sussed that that was a joke...

 

[Gaz_]

lol at the loan comment


hmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Kris 172]

Jokes everyone cracks me up ,thats it im going to bed night you sexy 172 Cup owners lol

 

[philmots]

Seriously mate there aint any need for the personal digs at people, from my experiance people only do that as they have something to proove to themselves...

I think the people I was talking to/referring to have sussed that that was a joke...

How old are you by the way?

 

[Mike_182]

To be fair, I thought I'd actually found someone with a sense of humour - but after that last comment I think it's fair to say you've all met every expectation of the people I see on these forums and summed up why I come on here : to take the piss out of people who are easy to wind up and have a good laugh before I go to sleep!

 

[Kris 172]

What was wrong with the last comment ?????

 

[Mike_182]

What was wrong with the last comment ?????

The one that was last when I originally clicked reply! b*****d server.

The one where he decides he's going to tell the world how wonderful his job is and how he bought the seats outright, and decides to call me a gimp.

Clever, really.

Nothing against you mate. Not yet anyway!

 

[Mike_182]

I think the people I was talking to/referring to have sussed that that was a joke...

How old are you by the way?

21 thanks!

 

[Gaz_]

its ok, things can be bought if saved for, its just mike 182 doesnt believe it

i must have had a loan for them

lol

 

[Kris 172]

Lol ok fella no worries , I love forums they crack me up everyone arguing and that it's quality , sod Trisha its all bout Cliosport

 

[Mike_182]

its ok, things can be bought if saved for, its just mike 182 doesnt belive it

must have had a loan for them lol

(like he knows me)

Look up, above the post you just edited, where it says quite plainly I was joking.

You seem to be struggling with reading plain english tonight - it might be worth going to sleep and having a fresh read in the morning to see where you've missed key points in posts.

 

[Peperami]

Hmmmm, i dont come on a forum to wind people up, i come on a forum to make friends with the same interests as me.

Each to there own and everything, but maybe you should try a different attitude mate, you might like it

 

[Mike_182]

Hmmmm, i dont come on a forum to wind people up, i come on a forum to make friends with the same interests as me.

Each to there own and everything, but maybe you should try a different attitude mate...

I have friends where I live, where I work and where I socialise. If I find someone on here with the same odd sense of humour and similar interests then bonus, but I meet 'mates' every day and in the nicest way possible, I'll never meet a 'Friend' off the net.

As for sod Trisha, no!!! I like watching the arguments. Makes even bad days seem great!