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Yes.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
im not a fan of 1.2s anyway so yes, even worse in 17''
imo of course
imo of course
Is that yours mate?
182
Not only look bad but ruin the drive of the car,
15's are your friend
How?
Borrowed pic
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Not only look bad but ruin the drive of the car,
15's are your friend
Really? Serious?
Guess you haven't driven a clio RS on 17's then
It's pretty well documented on here
Ruins the feel of the car, I had some on a 172 i bought a year back.
Message any of the specialists on here... Danny, Fred, Chip etc. They will all tell you the same.
Search the forum.
Driven a few clios on 17s, hate the feel of it, dont get grip and handling confused.
I would and have avoided them.
I would and have avoided them.
LOL
I have 17's so I know thanks
Chip has seen my car can drive it and report to you if you like in 2 weeks time
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clio 172 no2/ yzf r1
Not only look bad but ruin the drive of the car,
15's are your friend
I'd highly agree with this^^^ why also spend more on tyres with 17s
But have you got 15" to compare?
LOL
I have 17's so I know thanks
Chip has seen my car he can drive it then ask him.....
You mean chip who runs 15"?
Ray Gin
ClioSport Club Member
Cupra Leon & Impreza
Have you ever driven the same car on 17s and on 15s?
Judging by your post I would assume not.
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182cup & 172 racecar
Drove a car a Donnington with 17's, it was crap. Handled like a drunken Giraffe.
182cup & 172 racecar
Ray Gin
ClioSport Club Member
Cupra Leon & Impreza
Like the top of a welly boot...
182cup & 172 racecar
Only when I've finished.
Nearly pains me to see how all the other possible variables get ignored in these sorts of threads r.e. fact/opinion/comparison.
Tyres (type, width, sidewall stiffness, pressure, temperature, tread depth)
Wheel weight (unsprung mass etc)
Rolling diameter (17" wheels raise CofG a good 30mm or so relative to 15"s)
Someone even admitted their comparison was on lowering springs (straight away that means it is very likely camber angle has changed a little, the roll centre has moved, amount of body roll has changed not to mention the possibility of different spring rates)
Any of the above can have a bigger difference than the diameter of a wheel.
And with the most respect possible to Tony (for handling feedback I know who I'd trust out of a racing driver and someone who's had a 10min go in a mate's car on different wheels!) people also seem to forget (RainX thread springs to mind) that fast road/track/proper race cars are three massively different environments.
/rant
Tyres (type, width, sidewall stiffness, pressure, temperature, tread depth)
Wheel weight (unsprung mass etc)
Rolling diameter (17" wheels raise CofG a good 30mm or so relative to 15"s)
Someone even admitted their comparison was on lowering springs (straight away that means it is very likely camber angle has changed a little, the roll centre has moved, amount of body roll has changed not to mention the possibility of different spring rates)
Any of the above can have a bigger difference than the diameter of a wheel.
And with the most respect possible to Tony (for handling feedback I know who I'd trust out of a racing driver and someone who's had a 10min go in a mate's car on different wheels!) people also seem to forget (RainX thread springs to mind) that fast road/track/proper race cars are three massively different environments.
/rant
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182cup & 172 racecar
Is that good or bad?
172/1.2/E30
Nearly pains me to see how all the other possible variables get ignored in these sorts of threads r.e. fact/opinion/comparison.
Tyres (type, width, sidewall stiffness, pressure, temperature, tread depth)
Wheel weight (unsprung mass etc)
Rolling diameter (17" wheels raise CofG a good 30mm or so relative to 15"s)
Someone even admitted their comparison was on lowering springs (straight away that means it is very likely camber angle has changed a little, the roll centre has moved, amount of body roll has changed not to mention the possibility of different spring rates)
Any of the above can have a bigger difference than the diameter of a wheel.
And with the most respect possible to Tony (for handling feedback I know who I'd trust out of a racing driver and someone who's had a 10min go in a mate's car on different wheels!) people also seem to forget (RainX thread springs to mind) that fast road/track/proper race cars are three massively different environments.
/rant
But 17s look w**k on a mk2 Clio (in most cases). Regarding the handling: Cup racers ran 15s aswell...
182cup & 172 racecar
Turn in on 17's was non existent.
Oh I completely agree r.e. looks and that 15s are most likely (never driven them) the optimum size.
The rant was in response to those who ignore/don't consider big things (saying 17s are great with different suspension or that 15s on a track car felt great compared to 16s on a STD car) And not just this thread.
The rant was in response to those who ignore/don't consider big things (saying 17s are great with different suspension or that 15s on a track car felt great compared to 16s on a STD car) And not just this thread.
WRX
Totally agree, so many post on here when I'm sure most haven't got a clue. I probably take advice seriously from about 5, maybe 10 people on here. Whilst I like to have the crack, I only offer real advice when I know for sure what I'm on about. It's other people's money that I don't want them to waste.
Agreed, with poor adjustability as well imo
182cup & 172 racecar
The light has been seen. I praise the Lord.
182cup & 172 racecar
Thread title, read it.
Chip who runs 16's yes come back to CS when you know what you are talking about
Read the posts above..
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